-During a middle school football game

-Walking down the street in college

-In casual conversation with a middle school classmate

Give up?

All places I've been called a nigger in an unprovoked manner, and times I did not respond in anger or violence.  I am 26 years old, you do the math.  Does that sound like racism is dead to you?  Do I hate white people because of this?  HELL NO.  Do I blame ALL white people for racism?  HELL NO.  My point is, racism however ugly it may be, and however much you may not want to admit is alive and well, is DEFINITELY still around.  What about the holocaust museum shooting...You're just being inflammatory with this post.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/02/2009 01:18:30 PM EST

The area was 95% black, i was jumped to and FROM school, simply for bieng white in a black area, asked why im going to a "black school" when i should be going to  a private school.

Racism is alive in ALL colors/people.

Ive been told to get out of a store cause im a "gringo" at a Hispanic corner store,   Ive been refused service at a black Deli.

when i was 13 i got into a fight outside the front of my house with my neighbor, he was black, the fight started cause he shoved my little brother for listening to rap music with a friend of his.   I got into it with him for it... and i beat his ass.   Thats not the issue,  after we finished fighting, he held his hands up and I backed off, the fight was over... less than 5 seconds later his mother who had been watching, came out, angrily took him by his ear and dragged him back into their house, cursing and stuttering and i quote "how dare you get your ass beaten by a white boy"   

Later i found out that she was teased cause her son lost to me by OTHER familys.

we moved out of that area later that year and since then my only experience with black racism was when i was 21 i was delivering furniture and it was lunch time, so me and kevin (The driver of our truck, i built furniture didnt usually do deliveries but they were short handed so i had to go out on the truck) stopped at a black deli to get lunch,  he got to the counter ordered his lunch... i was next in line, the Guy taking orders asked the black man behind me what he wanted,  i let that go... then he asked the guy behind him... i said "excuse me i was next in line" he asked if i was lost...   Kevin said i was cool that i was with him, the man said "i dont care take him somewhere else"...

Thats what is REALLY going on nowadays, i dont deny racism by whites... but when we only talk about white racism we miss SO MUCH of the conversation.

Racism is wrong on all sides, and to seperate ourselves iwth tv channels and Months etc only serves to go against MLK's dream.   WE need to be inclusive not derissive.

i give the example of the 6 black boys that almost killed a white classmate,  they basically got off with what amounted to attempted murder  and a hate crime, why? cause the black community stood up and said that they were getting harsh treatment cause they were black.

WHen in truth 6 boys almost murdered a classmate.   Now does this mean anything?  not really..  there have been hundreds of simmilar but reversed issues where white kids get off after beating almost killing a black schoolmate,  but should we let it go cause white kids got off? No you prosecute EVERYONE EQUALLY, reguardless of race...

thats what we should be aiming for as a society.... 
we have alot of issues in this world to deal with....  racism is one, but finger pointing has to stop, all of us have issues to deal with, and blacks arej ust as racist today as whites.   To deny that fact is also as ignororant as to say that racism is over cause we have a mixed president.

by Ectheleon on 07/02/2009 04:47:48 PM EST

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in fact, i'm agreeing with your post 100%.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/02/2009 05:57:36 PM EST

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and I want to clear something up.  Black americans didn't absolve the Africans of their part in slavery, and in fact their is a huge hatred between Black Americans, and African blacks today.  However, this is not really expressed in front of whites often.  This is a sub-culture of blacks that whites probably never see.  African blacks use the term "nigger", much in the same manner as American whites.  It's like "ashanti" or something like that, but ignorant Black Americans think it's a term of endearment.  The black americans are like a lost people who don't know where they came from, so they have tried to establish their culture here.  I am just trying to clarify that Africans did not get off scott free in the eyes of black americans, as many people might think.  Just to be clear, I think Africa is a fucked up continent with fucked up people, but a lot of it has to do with imperialism ravaging an already warring territory.  It goes way deeper than any race.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/02/2009 07:41:50 PM EST

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and I want to clear something up.  Black americans didn't absolve the Africans of their part in slavery, and in fact their is a huge hatred between Black Americans, and African blacks today.  However, this is not really expressed in front of whites often.  This is a sub-culture of blacks that whites probably never see.  African blacks use the term "nigger", much in the same manner as American whites.  It's like "ashanti" or something like that, but ignorant Black Americans think it's a term of endearment.  The black americans are like a lost people who don't know where they came from, so they have tried to establish their culture here.  I am just trying to clarify that Africans did not get off scott free in the eyes of black americans, as many people might think.  Just to be clear, I think Africa is a fucked up continent with fucked up people, but a lot of it has to do with imperialism ravaging an already warring territory.  It goes way deeper than any race.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/02/2009 07:41:59 PM EST

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So how can we fix it without discriminating on the basis of race?  That IS our goal, isn't it?  And if that is our goal, shouldn't we actually not discriminate on the basis of race?

If we want a color-blind society, shouldn't we actually be one?  Sure, there will be creeps who pass you on the street and call you "nigger" because they have some kind of mental problem.  But there are many fewer of those kind of people today than there were twenty years ago, and there will be fewer still twenty years from now.

But we're not going to achieve a society that doesn't discriminate on the basis of race by discriminating on the basis of race.

I realize that I may be describing the problem too simplistically.  I realize that we must find ways of countering the discrimination that exists.  I'm just saying that the way to stop discriminating is to stop discriminating in all matters.

by EveningStarNM on 07/02/2009 06:59:12 PM EST

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