I have not sat down and done the math lately, but when I did, it was orignally about 17 year break even point. That was before the big increase in the federal deductions and energy certs, and I live in the northeast. Now I think the break even point is closer to 10 years. What are basing your numbers on as far as a return on investment? Certainly you have done better with the solar than stocks or bonds?

Don't forget that there is also an added equity value to your home.

by sisco66 on 07/10/2009 03:21:09 PM EST

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Don't forget that there is also an added equity value to your home.

Ah to dream. 

The ROI I speak of is not the same as a valuation and yield of a security or increase in equity by appreciation of a stock.

My cost was based on the  number of panels required, support equipment, battery replacement and installation costs and a simple cost projection Rate hikes by SPP would decrease that.

I do have a system by Sentinel that provides emergency lighting

With 40% cells the panel size would be smaller, generating hours longer. The cost would be the determining factor.I would assume as the 40% cell hit the market, cost would drop for the old technology.

There are intangibles involved. The idea of being independent of the grid plus the ability to locate a home on less than optimal land are some.


Before me things create were none, save things Eternal, and eternal I endure.

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by OccamsRazor on 07/10/2009 04:25:18 PM EST

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Amen on that.

If you are building from scratch or fixing up, that is a differnt story. The ROI from good building practices, passive solar, grading and plantings along with some geothermal HVAC will limit the amount of energy you need by 75% +/-. Geothermal alone is a better investment than solar, at least where I live. At some point I will upgrade that as well.

Just think if IBM or Intel had put as much into solar as they did computer chips......

by sisco66 on 07/10/2009 09:26:18 PM EST

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I've already added Argon insulation, as well as a few other things.  I need to look into geothermal as well as a few other things, too.  However, I'd like to know when you guys did your statistics how much were you paying per watt of solar paneling, and what was the cost of energy at the time?

by EuphoriagenicCause on 07/10/2009 10:39:37 PM EST

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i bought my stuff... hmm let's see 3 years ago? it was much more expensive. it was like 900$ per watt canadian. which is something like 700'ish american? or so. it was very expensive, wind power i dont remember exactly but it was at least 50% less expensive then solar.

by kingbane on 07/10/2009 11:30:01 PM EST

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