Everyone thinks it outlandish, that the secret service would never allow this, a man with a gun so close to the president. They would if it was one of theirs working as an agent provocateur. Watch the video closely. The  guy has a wire in his right ear. They don't want these rallies and town halls to be peaceful. Someone wants the violence and is getting tired of waiting for it. They want martial law, a reason to crack down, a further reason to erode Posse Comitotis and usher in a police state.They are empowering the crazies to come out and play.

Stop worrying about the gun and start worrying about the men behind the curtain and why they want to demonize guns so badly. Every dictator in history has done gun confiscation before they took over. You can't rule an armed populace. The founding fathers were very aware of this which is why they made the 2nd amendment so prominent. With our congress so in bed with big business, only the threat of revolution can keep them in line. Remove the guns, remove the threat. Keep the military busy over seas and then bring in UN forces to secure the country. Some of you are now laughing at this. You'll stop soon enough. While you are busily playing checkers, they are playing chess.

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by Melkor on 08/14/2009 10:51:45 PM EST

I still think this is more of a first amendment issue. This thread has given me pause to really think about whether someone SHOULD be allowed near a President with a weapon; and again, it's a slippery slope.  Most people can agree the President's important; and then, maybe the VP? How about our Supreme Court Justices? Should we protect them, and deprive John Grisham of a future bestseller?  What about Pelosi?  

When the government starts monkeying around with our freedoms, the end result tends not to appeal to anyone, even those that thought it was a good idea in the first place.   If you say you can't be within <x> amount of feet with a <y> of a person who's at least important as <z> --- surely everyone can see where that'll end up. (Algebraec nightmares? :-) ) 

I still think Cenk's reaction was... inappropriate.  I'm not remotely leaning towards conspiracy theory; I think a question that should be asked is, "What is there in our system that a person feels the only way to make themselves heard is by such a powerfully controversial statement, and what should we do about it?"

If only Obama would truly embrace his love of technology and just conduct meetings using IRC chat rooms, none of this would happen.  Of course, Glenn Beck'll likely tell you that going there will take over your computer and read all your personal information. (Tangent: What a MORON. Too bad I can't get some sort of commission from snopes.com for the traffic I'm sending them on that stupid little 'fact' GB pulled out of his ... rear. (About cash for clunkers --- which is now accounting for a lot of the forward traffic in my inbox) 


The essence of freedom is proper limitation of government.

by sigilscythe on 08/15/2009 02:30:30 AM EST

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