but you failed to mention that Obama's logo bears the most striking resemblance of all to the traditional medical logo

in fact...they're identical for all I can tell. It shows two snakes wound around a staff with wings. Maybe someone with a medical background can explain the significance. Either way, its a silly question, whether Rush hates America. He knows what the medical logo is (there's probably one printed on his Oxycontin bottle). He just doesn't think his audience is bright enough to know the difference.

by hazmat on 08/06/2009 07:35:56 PM EST


I'll save it for my reply to his comeback. Thanks.

The "Why does Rush..." line is just a poke in the ribs, not a serious question.

by MedfordTim on 08/06/2009 07:41:38 PM EST

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I know. Its a silly, but good, very good question. ;-)

by hazmat on 08/06/2009 07:44:22 PM EST

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Ask him why his beloved Rush never talks about special interest money corrupting both parties. Ask him why Rush doesn't ever talking about campaign finance reform?

Why does Rush want unions giving money to politicians? If a a baseball manager gives money to an umpire before the game it's bribery. If a defendant's attorney gives money to his judge before the case, it's bribery.

If special interest give money to politicians it's...legal?

 

by Tom Hanc on 08/06/2009 07:46:29 PM EST

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Remember, this is a guy who thinks World Net Daily is a more credible source than the "propaganda" on MSNBC...

by MedfordTim on 08/06/2009 07:49:56 PM EST

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That's why you need to know why Rush thinks it's ok for Unions to give politicians money. Doesn't Rush think outside groups shouldn't be allowed to give politicians money?

It's the union angle that makes it work (for this clown), even though the corporate money has done 90% of the damage and is far more relevant.

 

by Tom Hanc on 08/06/2009 07:52:34 PM EST

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200 years? Really?

Don't EVER volunteer to teach history, okay?

by MedfordTim on 08/06/2009 09:42:42 PM EST

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I don't want Republicans OR Democrats taking ANY money from anyone other than plain old American voters, period.

Teddy Roosevelt's 1907 law preventing corporations from giving a penny to politicians is long gone. Look at the number of registered lobbyists before Reagan took office compared to when he left (or today) to see just how bad it is.

There is no good argument against public funding of elections. There are bad arguments though, which I'm sure you'll share...then again even you wouldn't argue something that stupid.

by Tom Hanc on 08/06/2009 09:45:46 PM EST

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Originally the rod of Asclepios, the greek god of healing, was used (and is still used around the world). It is a staff with only 1 snake and without wings. Apparently some U.S. military guys confused it with the Caduceus, the symbol for the God Hermes (whose constituents were merchants, liars and thieves). I guess one snake just did not do it for them :).

So basically the widespread symbol for medicine used in the USA is actually a symbol for trade and deceit! Go figure! ;)

by eborujion on 08/06/2009 07:53:39 PM EST

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Heh

Doctors just wanted a cool staff with wings, hoping that women might mistake them for a pilot ;)

by RedPossum on 08/06/2009 07:58:04 PM EST

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Medicine is evil.  Yes, medicine on a whole.  The logo is too similar to something the Nazi's used.  Plus, the snakes.  Come on.  Didn't any of you read the bible?  Snakes are evil.  They move with no legs.  That's all I'm sayin'.  Pure evil.

Rush is right.

by Spencer on 08/06/2009 08:09:06 PM EST

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I think he also breathed in air. Maybe Rush's listeners will stop eating and...

by Tom Hanc on 08/06/2009 08:17:32 PM EST

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The Caduceus was the magic wand of the god Hermes. It was an olive staff twined with fillets, which were gradually converted to wings and serpents. Hermes, or Mercury, was the messenger of Jove. Among his numerous attributes, one of the most important was that of conducting disembodied spirits to the other world, and, on necessary occasions, of bringing them back. He was the guide of souls, and the restorer of the dead to life.


Thus, Horace, in addressing him, says:

Unspotted spirits you consign
To blissful seats and joys divine,
And powerful with your golden wand
The light unburied crowd command.
Vergil also alludes to this attribute of the magic wand
when he is describing the flight of
Mercury on his way to bear Jove's warning message to Aeneas:
His wand he takes ; with this pale ghost he calls
From Pluto's realms, or sends to Tartarus' shore.


And Statius, imitating this passage, makes the same allusion in his Thebaid (1, 314), thus translated by Lewis:

He grasps the wand which draws from hollow graves,
Or drives the trembling shades to Stygian waves ;
With magic power seals the watchful eye
In slumbers soft or causes sleep to fly.

The history of this Caduceus, or magic wand, will lead us to its symbolism. Mercury, who had invented the lyre, making it out of the shell of the tortoise, exchanged it with Apollo for the latter's magical wand. This wand was simply an olive branch around which were placed two fillets of ribbon. Afterward, when Mercury was in Arcadia, he encountered two serpents engaged in deadly combat. These he separated with his wand; hence the olive wand became the symbol of peace, and the two fillets were replaced by the two serpents, thus giving to the Caduceus its well-known form of a staff, around which two serpents are entwined.


Such is the legend; but we may readily see that in the olive, as the symbol of immortality, borne as the attribute of Mercury, the giver of life to the dead, we have a more ancient and profounder symbolism. The serpents, symbols also of immortality, are appropriately united with the olive wand. The legend also accounts for a later and secondary symbolism-that of peace.


The Caduceus then-the original meaning of which word is a herald's staff-as the attribute of a life-restoring God, is in its primary. meaning the symbol of immortality; so in Freemasonry the rod of the Senior Deacon, or the Master of Ceremonies, is but an analogue or representation of the Hermean Caduceus. This officer, as leading the aspirant through the forms of initiation into his new birth or Masonic regeneration, and teaching him in the solemn ceremonies of the Third Degree the lesson of eternal life, may well use the magic wand as a representation of it, which was the attribute of that ancient deity who brought the dead into life.

- Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry

by gatekeeper50 on 08/06/2009 11:15:41 PM EST

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