i hope you are not naive enough to assume that american "journalists" were working in china, close enough to the north korean border, so that they could be easily kidnapped.

anyone with an above-retard-level i.q. would know that "journalist" is simply a cover for "cia-operative".

by neo on 08/06/2009 08:59:56 PM EST

Hey

Cool how you can login from Pyongyang and mask your IP like that.

by RedPossum on 08/06/2009 09:10:28 PM EST

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neo, you are either:

(a) kidding,
(b) a conspiracy theorist, or
(c) Kim Jong-il

I am going to pretend like your comment is a serious one... so I'll try my best to respond in a serious fashion.

Here goes:

North Korea is a rogue regime. Do you know what rogue regimes do to spies, neo? They kill them. They don't release them during a meeting with Bill Clinton. The 2 reporters worked for Current TV. Have you heard of Current TV, neo? They send reporters into closed societies (e.g. Iran) to see what regular guys and gals are up to.

The 2 reporters were not doing anything out of the ordinary. One of them is Laura Ling. She is the sister of Lisa Ling. Do you believe that Lisa Ling as a spy as well, neo? I remember seeing Lisa on Oprah a few years ago... she was talking about the time she visited a prison and saw a guy jerking off in his cell. Why did she visit the prison? Because that is what reporters do, neo. They report.

Did you know that Lisa Ling used to be on The View, neo? Maybe you think that the ladies of The View are spies too. Maybe you believe that Sherri Shepherd doesn't actually believe that the world is not round... maybe that's just her CIA persona talking.

Neo, perhaps you have read about the CIA overthrow of Mossadeq in 1953. American spies were able to engineer the overthrow by paying off Iranians to stage demonstrations against Mossadeq. What I'm trying to say is that you need people on the ground to actually do your dirty work for you. Do you really believe that a regular Joe in North Korea can be used to engineer Kim's overthrow?

First off, North Koreans are malnourished. As John McCain said in one of the Presidential debates, "The average South Korean is 3 inches taller than the average North Korean." You gotta be physically fit (kinda sorta) in order to topple Kim Jong-il, who has one of the largest armies in the world. Starving North Koreans toiling away in labour camps cannot be used to topple anybody.

Neo, are you not aware that if/when US spies get caught behind enemy lines, the US government disavows all knowledge of the mission that those spies had been sent on? The US government does not try to negotiate the release of its spies. Have you ever watched The Rock? Ed Harris plays General Frank Hummel, a disgruntled Marine of the Force Recon.

He is disgruntled because the US government sends elite teams that are highly trained in unconventional warfare (such as Army Special Forces, Green Berets, Delta Force, SEALs, Force Recon, etc.) to carry our black ops (or black operations) deep into enemy territory. This when these special operations units are sent into carry out acts of sabotage and/or reconnaissance... illegally.

Yeah, they're illegal... and that's why the US government cannot admit to sending them if they happen to get caught (e.g. US operations in southern China during the Vietnam War). And so the soldiers end up being killed. And their bodies are not returned. And so they're not able to get a proper military burial. And their families are told fairy tales about what happened to them. And they're paid little in compensation.

And this is why General Frank Hummel (played by Ed Harris) is mad. Anyway, he takes a bunch of hostages at Alcatraz island and threatens to fire VX nerve gas into the Bay Area unless the US government pays him a hundred million dollars in compensation for the families of the soldiers that died in the black ops under Hummel's command.

And Nicolas Cage (who plays a chemical weapons expert) and Sean Connery (who plays an aging SAS operative) are the only ones who can stop Hummel. It's a pretty cool movie. You should rent it. Getting back to the point, the US does not ask rogue regimes to hand over its operatives after they have been caught trying to overthrow the rogue regime.  

by saad on 08/06/2009 10:19:42 PM EST

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Post your source(s) saad. (see my other post)

by jimmyjames on 08/06/2009 10:28:05 PM EST

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I am going to pretend like your comment is a serious one

We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.

by aidbo on 08/07/2009 03:43:59 AM EST

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