Cenk hit the nail on the head with this one. The real conflict that is going on in this country is not the one that Republicans and other right wing nuts are framing it to be. It is not, as they say, a war between socialists and free market capitalists. Very few people on the left are ideologically opposed to capitalism. Why would they be inimical to a system that has provided for them as much prosperity as anyone else? We liberals are just as much for free markets as any conservative - the only difference is that liberals haven’t been seduced into thinking that the preservation of the corporations’ powers is synonymous with maintaining free market capitalism.

 
The conservatives, mainly from the “heartland” of America, but also hailing from every corner of our country, have been duped into thinking that some how they will one day get a piece of the fat pie that the corporate executives are gluttonously devouring. That is the ultimate allure of men like Rush Limbaugh and networks like Fox News. They are as adept as the most seasoned info commercial salesmen at selling an idealized vision of American, where everyone has an equal chance to be the corporate fat cat, if they give an honest effort. Of course behind all the platitudes they use to convince their conservative constituency on this idea, the true statistics show how few actually ascend the economic ladder to such lofty fiscal heights.  The chances that you will be as big as Rush Limbaugh (financial, not physically) is a fantasy that has as much likelihood of being realized as a poor urban kid’s dream that his skills as a basketball player will make him the next Michael Jordan, and that will be his ticket out of the ghetto.

 
This brings me to my problem with Cenk’s argument. He needs to understand that his criticism of the media powers for being naïve is in and of itself naïve. Its not that the media conglomerates are so credulous as to believe that conservatives and blue dog democrats are truly about free markets, and not corporatists. They know better, but the media, or at least the journalists that work for the big media networks, are themselves owned by these free market killing corporate entities. They know what they are saying is false, but they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them. Hence, it is not that the media needs to learn the lesson that Cenk is trying to teach them. What is necessary is that the American population wakes up and starts to get their sources of news from other news outlets that are not monopolized by powerful corporate interests.

 
This is where the blogosphere, and Internet based news, like the YoungTurks, can make such a difference. In fact, the Internet is probably the main impetus behind why many truly progressive Congressmen got elected the last election cycle. Since the Internet is a realm that is very difficult, if next to impossible, to bring under submission, even by corporate powers, it is through this venue that the progressive movement will truly find its salvation.

 
We who are raised in the Internet age owe it to ourselves and our country to bring the elderly and those living in rural areas (the two most powerful voting blocks for Republicans and corporatists) into the 21<sup>st</sup> century by encouraging them to use the Internet and get more of their news from such sources, as opposed to the major networks. I think when these people are forced to confront their preconceived notions about liberal ideas and liberal people, by being exposed to more varied points of view, there will be an ideological shift in this country that will include not only the young, but the old as well.   &nbs p;

by lawrence louis on 09/16/2009 02:50:53 PM EST

Yeah...some of us old farts have already caught on to this Internets tubes thingy...good luck rounding up the ones not already "plugged in." Encouragement is good, though. Chocolate works well, too (not the kind with nuts!).

I wasn't going to respond, but after reading

"Since the Internet is a realm that is very difficult, if next to impossible, to bring under submission, even by corporate powers"

I felt it incumbent to point out that it hasn't really been tried yet. Wait until it gets a real stress test before thinking it can't be done. Who's in charge of deciding who receives which satellite feed or fiber optic data? May not be able to kill this beast, but I have no doubt that it could be severely wounded if the need arose - and that it would be blamed on Hackers, who would be "The Usual Suspects."

And now that there are no more analog TV signals, where will people turn if the satellites go dark? The radio? A lot of them are satellite, one way or another, too. Newspapers? Hope they kept their old typewriters in storage.

All I'm saying is make sure to keep a few hand powered ditto machines (look it up, youngster!) close at hand when the time comes that information needs to get out the old fashioned way.

May never happen...but I still carry an umbrella when it looks like rain...

(You wrote a good piece, I'm not trying to discount you in any way. Just having a little "age" fun while making the point that one shouldn't put too much faith in anything. Being prepared never hurts.)

by MedfordTim on 09/16/2009 03:29:12 PM EST

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"Since the Internet is a realm that is very difficult, if next to impossible, to bring under submission, even by corporate powers"
try telling this to Chinese people.
There are "good" arguments for the state to start censuring the internet. In Germany they used child-pornography and in America they can use the war on terror at any time they want.

The argument is simple. Jihadist propaganda on the internet is threatening America. We have to defend America. We have to block certain pages.
After the Patriot Act you can't tell me that's impossible.
When they start with terror they continue nwith child porn and then they go to communism.
Welcome to a brave new world order.

PS: I hope I haven't given ideas to theBoboformerlyknownasKen that he gives to his leaders.

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 09/17/2009 04:40:51 AM EST

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There is going to be a huge attempt to regulate and control the internet. There are many in our government who would like to follow China's example on that. They may not control content, but they will try to price people like Cenk off the internet.

by mmosespt on 09/17/2009 07:53:59 AM EST

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Well Cenk,

All I can say is that the people out there who make a disproportional amount of money who call theirselves capitalists are just the CEO wearing the capitalistic mask. They never cared about fairness, the other label fits them well. 

by m3k on 09/16/2009 08:20:45 PM EST

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