TYT Poll: Should a High School Football Coach be Allowed to take His Team to Church? | 55 comments (55 topical, 0 hidden)
safasfsa (none / 0)

" The idea that since this 'baptism' didn't happen at school gives this guy a pass is absurd!"

Coaches and teachers are not "on the job" for 24 hours a day like police officers,they are allowed to have personal lives,by that logic any employee of the state that goes to church is also religion in the school system

 

" Parents have custody of 16 year-old kids! That means you don't get baptized by your football coach without a permission slip!!!"

 1)Religion is not a controlled substance 2)You have freedom of religion in america,you dont need permission from your parents to convert to anything

by boxxybrown on 09/09/2009 03:12:59 AM EST

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you dont need permission from your parents (none / 1)
"to convert to anything"

How much do you want to bet you'd change your mind if the coach was taking your kid to a Wiccan coven meeting or a Hari Krishna initiation rite?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 09/09/2009 03:55:45 AM EST

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no (none / 0)
"How much do you want to bet you'd change your mind if the coach was taking your kid to a Wiccan coven meeting or a Hari Krishna initiation rite?" I wouldn't bet anything because It wouldn't change the situation,but nice strawman though.

by boxxybrown on 09/09/2009 03:58:39 AM EST

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nice strawman (none / 0)
You may not agree with my point, which is fine but you may also want to look up the definition of "strawman".

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 09/09/2009 04:05:09 AM EST

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no (none / 0)
That was a strawman,you assume that I am some hypocrite that only approves because it is christianity.

by boxxybrown on 09/09/2009 04:23:04 AM EST

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no it's not (none / 0)
A stawman is where one person misrepresents the others position and then attacks the weaker "strawman" position.

Robroy presents more of a special pleading fallacy I think

by cowpacino on 09/09/2009 05:09:41 AM EST

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only approves because it is christianity (none / 0)
Well, yes but that still doesn't make it a "strawman" argument. Flipping the context from Christianity to non-Christianity to illustrate a point is not a strawman argument.

A strawman argument would be if I said something like, "coaches all over the country were converting our children, aren't you against that?"
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"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 09/09/2009 02:29:00 PM EST

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Im calling Bullshit (none / 0)

Ive just sent the 3rd of my 5 kids to college, and they had to have a permission slip as high school football players to go home with their parents rather than ride the school bus. They needed notes for picnics, notes to buy lunch at McDonalds on field trips, they seek permission for the simplest things. Why? because our minor children are in their custody at these times, and a permission slip is implied contract to not hold them responsible for a variety of things.

This coach had minors in his charge. It was incumbent upon him to seek permission before doing this, because he is responsible for them, if not as a school representative (which was implied), then as a private citizen he is taking responsibility for all those minors, and any and all liability that may ensue. 

"Life's rich demand creates supply in the hands of the power, the only vote that matters." --James Michael Stipe, from Begin the Begin.

by Hamsterdam on 09/12/2009 09:08:26 PM EST

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TYT Poll: Should a High School Football Coach be Allowed to take His Team to Church? | 55 comments (55 topical, 0 hidden)