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I get you hate all religious people... (none / 0)
and love to spew words of hatred against them on this site... Aren't you also the one that did that horrible Japanese-hating post some time back and I had to school you then as well??

Here are some of your dumbest comments on this blogpost:

So, because he had to deal with this shriveled pussy for so long, he was craving for virgin flesh? _ This comment is also hateful of women in case you didn't notice.  As a woman, I take offense to that comment and I don't take offense to many things. Just FYI.

Marrying a rich widow to further one's political goals is really brave. Even the Maverick John McCain did it! Now that I think of it: there are multiple parallels between the two. Again, this is your cynical fantasy of the situation versus anything close to the historical records. What's wrong with a man falling in love with his boss, marrying her and being faithful to her for 25 years as a wife and partner. I know you want to try to turn every single little thing you think you know about Islam into a personal attack on Muhammad, but come on - for a guy who admits he knows nothing about it you sure pretend to know a lot.


Now, that I think of it: funny that Muslims have mostly just one entity to ascribe all of the different psychological functions. Westerners ("Christians") have many of them, from Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the aforementioned super heroes to the Grim Reaper.  Again, you're a total ignorant dork.  Muslims don't have just one entity - they have a rich history of historical characters who played various roles as the leader of the Muslim people. Problem is you just don't know about any of them so you think they don't exist and therefore you make blanket assumptions. There is Ali, Omar, Othman, Marwan and literally hundreds of characters who are depicted in parables that are used to teach lessons in their culture/religion.

I mean, it is really ridiculous that this god supposedly told Muhammad who to fuck with but not how to conquer future problems of mankind. Use your logic and reason, and you will come to this conclusion, too: either Allah is not allknowing and allmighty or Muhammad was a fraud which makes an Allah pretty much an unknown.  What are we going to do with you??  Did you know that Muhammad and those leaders who followed him united the Middle East for the first time and established laws, public works, and a society that was based on generosity and taking care of societies weakest members. Before Islam, there were only raiding tribes and conquering emperors. Due to Muhammad, the region was unified under one leader, and then future leaders were elected based on their experience and values.  Also Muhammad was also widely known for being a peacemaker, a skilled negotiator, and an ombudsperson. He originally left Mecca for Medinah to negotiate a peace between warring tribes.  Yet you, not knowing anything about Muhammad, his life's work or the actual historical facts apparently know enough about all of it to thereby disprove the faith of Islam and the existence of God.

I get that you hate religion and you don't believe in any of it. I get that you think people with faith are dangerous and you apparently have a rating system for them. And you are entitled to hate who you want to hate... Yet, for the LOVE OF GOD, can you just stop being so ignorant??? Don't try to justify your personal beliefs with lies, exaggerations or misrepresentations. Just state what you believe and leave it at that...

by ilovecenk99 on 02/07/2010 03:43:44 PM EST

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I don't hate you, I want to help you ;). (none / 0)
Please feel free to show me where I objectively displayed hate for anyone. Impatience and ridicule, sometimes sarcastic disdain are what I want to express most of the time, not hate.

"So, because he had to deal with this shriveled pussy for so long, he was craving for virgin flesh?" _ This comment is also hateful of women in case you didn't notice.  As a woman, I take offense to that comment and I don't take offense to many things. Just FYI.

Ok. I guess, sarcasm does not translate well for everyone into written word. Please believe me that this statement does not represent my own attitude. I was playing the devil's advocate, my humor can be crude and tasteless, someone who loves Cenk should be used to similar jokes.

Muslims don't have just one entity

I was not talking about historical figures that serve as ideals, Christianity has many of them, too, but supernatural entities that serve psychological functions. Yes, my statement was a little over-generalized, because you have jinns in Islamic folk beliefs. I am also aware of the rich literature of parables and stories. For the most part, though, they are about flesh and blood humans, right? I guess, you made up your mind about me, so you can't even accept a compliment anymore...

What are we going to do with you??  Did you know that Muhammad and those leaders who followed him united the Middle East for the first time and established laws, public works, and a society that was based on generosity and taking care of societies weakest members

I am well aware of most of the positives, I grew up in an Islam-friendly family. As aluded in the other comment, I explicitly stated on this site in an argument with saad, many of exactly those positive achievements and features of Islam. That does not make the refusal to even consider any negatives about their religion and its founder by Muslims less true, much less the negatives themselves. Just because there is room for criticism does not mean all of it is bad, and I never claimed that, it just means, you should be open to acknowledge the negative sides. In a way, I am the opposing lawyer, why should I constantly point out positive things, just to appease you so that you don't have the urge to kill me?

I get that you think people with faith are dangerous and you apparently have a rating system for them.

a) yes, b) no, the rating system was just a joke, that I made up in that thread. And I hate noone, my strongest feelings about religion is pity and frustration (pity that so many children are brainwashed into believing this stuff and frustration about the near impossibility to reach their minds).

lies, exaggerations or misrepresentations.

I don't lie, never ever. Exaggerations and reductio ad absurdum are often necessary. And it is not that I misrepresent something out of malice but to show how easy it can be done, or what specific misrepresentation do you mean?

Yet, for the LOVE OF GOD, can you just stop being so ignorant???

There probably is no god, so, I guess, that is a NO.

by eborujion on 02/07/2010 04:50:26 PM EST

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