cenks comment on the prophet Muhammad | 116 comments (116 topical, 0 hidden)
Dirty old men... (none / 0)
Many girls even today reach puberty as early as 9 (average might be somewhere around 12). Puberty is not a date, you know, it is a process that takes a few years.

For many societies in the past it made sense that they started reproducing as early as possible. That is not when they enter puberty, though, but when they are well into it. The risk of impregnating a girl too early and thereby endangering her life way outweighs the advantage of a few children born earlier. That is why many societies have coming of age rituals after which girls are considered to be ready for bonding and childbearing at about 12-14 years old. And it is beneficial to get people of similar biological age to procreate (that means the boys would be about 2-5 years older). Before that age, there is no biological or societal excuse to have intercourse with those children other than the pedophile tendencies of perverted old men.

So basically you say it would be acceptable to have intercourse with girls who have just entered puberty? One pubic hair is enough? Or one menstrual cycle? If someone finds girls at that developmental stage desireable, there is something seriously wrong.

Why do you make excuses for a 1400 year dead pedophile fraud about things noone can know for sure? That is so weird... I would not even cover for my uncle if he was a pedophile.

by eborujion on 02/05/2010 04:18:31 PM EST

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how do you know he had sex with her. what we know is that she moved in with him after puberty. you assume he had sex with her.

by alfarooq88 on 02/05/2010 04:30:49 PM EST

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do you know he did not? What would be the purpose of marrying her and letting her move in?

by eborujion on 02/05/2010 05:15:32 PM EST

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the reason (none / 0)
why she moved in was so she could know hadiths (his sayings) and teach those hadiths to muslims. because she moved in at a young age, she remembered alot of what he said. shes the reason why we have a lot of hadiths. she was also very well educated and a scholar.

by alfarooq88 on 02/05/2010 07:00:33 PM EST

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I am sure, (none / 0)
he taught her all his hadiths, if you know what I mean, wink wink... I denounce and reject myself for making a joke in that context. Pedophilia is not funny.

But, re the argument that she had to be this young to "remember a lot of what he said". That is nonsense.

First of all, children do not have the mnemonic capabilities of young adults, they often confuse fantasies with reality and need numerous repetitions. And many abstract concepts they simply cannot comprehend until after period of psychological development (That is the mechanism of religious brain-washing of children: the ideas/dogmas are absorbed by the kids' minds without the possibility to really comprehend them).

Secondly, he could have simply dictated it! There were literate people around at that time, you know. Someone also wrote the Qu'ran down for him! And what is more: how many years he lived with her before he died? 10 years maybe? So, at 16 or 19 she would have been too old? Again, take your own advice and use logic and reason and try to understand that this is a bullshit excuse for a dirty old man.

How about one of his own sons that he could brain-wash at an even younger age? That would be much more plausible that a virgin girl (a woman! how much does their testimony count again according to Sharia law?).

by eborujion on 02/06/2010 06:10:09 AM EST

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his (none / 0)
sons died during infancy.

by alfarooq88 on 02/06/2010 01:06:50 PM EST

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