...because he is a public school teacher who does actual damage to his students.  Bob is part of the problem with our country, and he must be taken seriously so that we can fix our problems.

by EveningStarNM on 02/09/2010 10:57:39 AM EST

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How the real world (the world that they live in) works. Its not always pretty, but facts are facts...

You on the other hand would teach idealism like "Hope" and "Peace" and "Harmony", ideals that only exist in the minds of Liberals and their very limited grasp on how the real world operates.

I would not be a good teacher if I taught my kids that "Peace will guide the planets, and love will steer the stars etc." Its my jobs to show them what they are up against and to provide them with the tools necessary to be successful.

That's why I teach, and that's why people like you sit behind computers all day away from the general public. I would invite you to come out into the real world, but I don't think your feeble soul could handle it at this point...

:)

by bobo1 on 02/09/2010 12:52:17 PM EST

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Do you also teach 'your kids' how to sort out the coal at the end of a coal-chute, because that was the "real world" before progressive reformers fought fuckers like you to give them the hope of a future? You are such a complete skin full of swill that I will merely put an excerpt here for you to learn from.

"Forms of child labor, including indentured servitude and child slavery, have existed throughout American history. As industrialization moved workers from farms and home workshops into urban areas and factory work, children were often preferred, because factory owners viewed them as more manageable, cheaper, and less likely to strike. Growing opposition to child labor in the North caused many factories to move to the South. By 1900, states varied considerably in whether they had child labor standards and in their content and degree of enforcement. By then, American children worked in large numbers in mines, glass factories, textiles, agriculture, canneries, home industries, and as newsboys, messengers, bootblacks, and peddlers.

In the early decades of the twentieth century, the numbers of child laborers in the U.S. peaked. Child labor began to decline as the labor and reform movements grew and labor standards in general began improving, increasing the political power of working people and other social reformers to demand legislation regulating child labor. Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined, and common initiatives were conducted by organizations led by working women and middle class consumers, such as state Consumers’ Leagues and Working Women’s Societies. These organizations generated the National Consumers’ League in 1899 and the National Child Labor Committee in 1904, which shared goals of challenging child labor, including through anti-sweatshop campaigns and labeling programs. The National Child Labor Committee’s work to end child labor was combined with efforts to provide free, compulsory education for all children, and culminated in the passage of the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938, which set federal standards for child labor."
http://www.continuetolearn. uiowa.edu/laborctr/child_la bor/about/us_history.html
minerchildren

You regressive asshats don't even know what the fuck you are talking about. You soo take for granted the way things are now. As if its the way they've always been. What are you, a millionaire teacher? If not then you do not stand to benefit from the feudalistic society that you seem to yearn a return to. How do you think change happens? Someone somewhere hopes for something better and then sets about trying to get bumps on logs like you out the fucking way. If it were up to you no-nothings, humans would all still be living in caves and howling at the moon for want of food and water.

You and your people lack the imagination to build a better world and despise others who would venture to do so. You crave the dark ages when christianity was the law of the land and science was mere hocus-pocus. 'Be afraid to go into the woods at night'. 'Don't walk too far lest ye fall off the edge of the earth'. This is your nostalgia.

~majority.fm

by mauirising on 02/09/2010 01:59:14 PM EST

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...I'd teach them logic, how to reason, how to examine an idea to find out if it's a true reflection of reality.  I would teach them about rigor, and about how prejudice gets in the way of solving problems. I would teach them to think rationally, Bob, which is something that, with your unconcealed hatred and bigotry and self-pity, you are unable to teach.

by EveningStarNM on 02/09/2010 03:05:59 PM EST

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Are wonderful tools to have as a learner - too bad that those traits are inherent to the individual and rarely can be instilled or taught to the common individual...

You can help a kid reach their maximum potential and to aspire to be something great, but you can't make them achieve it. You can't make them think logically - they either pick up on it early in life, or they just don't see it...

I'm so glad you don't work in schools, Star...

by bobo1 on 02/09/2010 03:14:18 PM EST

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No one is born knowing how to use logic.  It's a learned skill.  It's mathematical, and it's got rigorous rules that, like any language, must be taught.

And that's what you don't understand.

by EveningStarNM on 02/09/2010 05:24:37 PM EST

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Its about the students mental capacity and their ability to accumulate and relate knowledge.

Most people are not "wired" to take in great amounts of learning. Basically, most people are not Rhodes Scholars.

Every student has their own talent and their own strength that needs to be nurtured and developed...

Again, I'm so glad you don't work in schools - you wouldn't last a day...

:)

by bobo1 on 02/09/2010 11:35:24 PM EST

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I studied education and teaching.  My company (I was 1/3 owner) was a partner with a major university in the research, design, and development learning tools, and I worked with students and teachers in the classroom.  I helped children and adults learn to read, to calculate, to understand, and to think.

One of my tasks was to study and evaluate people like you, Bob, to identify your assets and deficits, strengths and weaknesses.  I was very good at it.

I still am.

by EveningStarNM on 02/10/2010 02:47:32 AM EST

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