Greenhouse gases are a scam foisted upon the west to justify a new tax regime to transfer payments to the developing world and support US military imperialism. Yes, the earth is slowly, I emphasize slowly warming up. Do the math, .5 degrees every 100 years. Further, we will run out of petroleum in less than 100 years. Technology will continue to advance and alternative energies will be cheaper.
Larding up the economy with new taxes that don't generate tangible benefits is a non-starter. How many more Americans do you want to see in the unemployment line?
Don't waste your vote, vote Green or Independent in the next election.
" .5 degrees every 100 years."
Where did you get that number?
My point is still that pollution is bad. If you want to deny that please go into your garage and close all doors and let your engine run for a few hours. Can't do any harm, can it? If you don't deny that pollution is bad than give some solutions about how to minimize pollution. Doctoring the symptoms without adressing the causes will not help in the long run.
"Larding up the economy with new taxes that don't generate tangible benefits is a non-starter."
If people switch to electric cars and public transportation faster than slower that will save thousands of people in big cities from dying of cancer or asthma. To me this sounds like a benefit, but that's only me. Who cares about people dying, as long as it isn't you, right? If the revenue of that tax is invested in green enrgy applications and research, it will create many jobs and make America more competitive.
"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."
CO2 is not and never will be pollution. It is a vital chemical needed by plants for the purpose of breathing. CO2 in O2 out. If it were pollution then everyone on the planet would need to pay a breathing tax.
Higher CO2 levels are good for plant growth. In fact let's double the CO2 in the atmosphere and watch out plants become ever greener and hardier.
Of Course CO2 is necessary, but currently it plays an important part in climate change. It is one of many factors, but it adds to the positive feedback. Plants can only use a certain amount of CO2, they don't become greener the more CO" they get. Humans on the other hand can suffer from CO2 poisoning. And CO2 plays an important role in the growing asthma and cancer rates.
Higher CO2 levels increase yields, I'm a farmer I should know.
Large-Scale Greenhouses Attached to Power Plants for the Productive Use of Waste Heat and CO2 emissionsIn the United States, there are approximately 800 large power plants that burn natural gas or coal. Power plants are usually situatedaway from population centers because of cost of land, pollution, noise and aesthetic. The area surrounding a large power plant oftenconsists of substantial buffer land to separate the plant from housing developments. Power plants typically need to be located nearwater sources to facilitate plant cooling requirements. Currently, there are not enough industrial customers that can use the low-temperature waste heat from most power plants. The efficiency of power plants in converting thermal energy to electricity is less than50%. Therefore, for each 1MW of power output another 1MW of thermal power is wasted to the environment. This represents wasteon a grand scale.We believe that the large quantities of low-temperature waste heat from power plants can be used in large-scale greenhouses thatare integrated with the cooling systems of power plants. Furthermore, we propose to use the emissions from large power plants as asource of CO2 for large-scale commercial greenhouses, boosting productivity and quality of high-value crops such as vegetables andflowers. The specific aim of this plan is to develop a prototype pilot for interfacing a power plant and a greenhouse. The pilot projectwill be used to demonstrate the potential of this concept, as well as allowing novel investigations into fundamental engineeringprocesses relevant to clean energy technologies, environmental science and plant metabolism. The pilot program will use the wasteheat and emissions from a natural gas combined cycle power plant. Calpine Corporation, a power company that operatesnationwide 89 power plants is a strategic partner for this venture. Calpine is providing now in-kind engineering support.Large-scale greenhouses operating in the vicinity of power plants will substantially increase revenues of power companies throughsale of waste heat and emission gases and increase the commercial value of land surrounding the power plants that is now unused.Greenhouses will be leased, rented or sold to growers. The agricultural output from the greenhouses is expected to replace asubstantial portion of the currently imported high-value greenhouse vegetable crops.
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