I haven't heard much to know how Cenk or the TYT base feels on this, but get ready for a mother fucking firestorm over this in the next 48 hours.

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by HistoryByDay on 03/20/2010 12:12:37 AM EST

You had the word abortion in your subject line.  Do you mean that you think there is going to be a firestorm over the abortion language in the bill, or are you talking about opposition to the bill in general?

by justinp on 03/20/2010 12:25:03 AM EST

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It is not clear right now if we can get to 216 without his coalition (in fact it seems unlikely).  There appears to be a number of options on the table at the moment - ranging from going around him if we can to adopting the Stupak amendment into this bill to possibly some compromise in between that hasn't been outlined yet.

I do know, once/if this passes the House, progressives better align and get the votes to get that fucker out of Congress by any means necessary.

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by HistoryByDay on 03/20/2010 12:45:43 AM EST

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that Stupak is bad, but I think that a lot of these Blue Dog Democrats are a big part of the problem as well.  One thing you have to give the Republicans credit for...unity.  That is the one thing that Democrats never could get good at.  It must be similar in all liberals.  I find that most atheists are liberal, they have a hard time uniting for a common cause as well. Must be in that liberal mentality.

by justinp on 03/20/2010 01:00:25 AM EST

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Jane Hamsher at FDL is reporting that there will be a separate vote for a Stupak amendment.  This will probably pass since Republicans will most likely vote yes.  If this passes the House it will need to passed by the Senate, but will need only 51 votes to do so.

This is sick.  Why isn't there are separate vote for a public option amendment?

by publius on 03/20/2010 10:26:40 AM EST

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There's something going down, altho don't know if it's good or bad (p'bly at least good for passage of the bill).

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by HistoryByDay on 03/20/2010 10:54:42 AM EST

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are Stupak's idea was rejected on procedural grounds.

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by HistoryByDay on 03/20/2010 10:56:09 AM EST

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whatever the reason for it being out, it's pretty well confirmed that there's going to be no change to the abortion language.

Also, now appears Dems may get to 216 (and p'bly exactly 216).

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by HistoryByDay on 03/20/2010 11:04:18 AM EST

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