Performance enhancing heroin?
That's totally new to me, and I assume you confuse it with cocain. Even opium could become in a way performance enhancing, because it can help you to reach a state of trance in which you can keep doing the same thing for a very long time without realizing it.
Heroin on the other hand just shuts you down. You don't eat or drink or fuck or do anything except being stoned.

I'm also sure, if cocain would be cheaper (I think you confuse the costs of other drugs with the costs of dope) and legal I would have started using it.
In the depressive phases I had years ago I might even have started to shoot heroin, just because I wouldn't have seen a reason, why not. The way it was my capability for reason was enhanced by the depression induced lazyness.
Hell, if you could buy dope and acid at a little over the price it costs to produce I'm pretty sure that I personally would ruin my life. Seems like you don't have to much experience with drugs and therefore don't know the way they influence weak people like me.

Human nature:
I remembered this discussion and still think that you point of view was a little naive (no offense intended, I wish I was less cynical). One part of the reproduction aspect of human nature is the competition for the best partners. Men in general are very competetive. They usually find areas where they can compete with others. You will never get rid of that. Impossible. So they will always find something to fight over to impress females and the females will always go for the alpha-males. Sorry, that is very chauvinistic and oversimplified, but it would be a totally different discussion, which it already was, but we could restart it some time in the future.:-)

"I don't have a final law in my head and we would have to discuss that... but how is the easy part... "

Let's start that discussion. Your shot first.:-)
BTW: I am sure you have seen the thread about consumer driven economy. That would be a nice place to discuss unconditional basic income. It seems all the Americans on this forum have never heared of it, don't know what the liberal position on that should be and don't bother with my posts on it, because many consider me a troll. It would be great if you raise awareness for that concept by posting something about it, so I can reply. Maybe somebody else could become interested in the concept before Cenk explains that it is brilliant.;-)

Banks:
First of all they do protect us from being mugged, because of banks we don't have to go home with our wages in our pockets.
You say to all the things I mentioned that they make life more complicated, but we still could do without. I would agree if it would only be one or two of the issues, but if you combine them all they show that banks have become a needs. Our society would collapse without them.
Of course mankind could survive without banks, but mankind could also survive without police, without healthcare, without education...

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 04/10/2010 03:06:53 PM EST

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