Cognitive dissonance | 22 comments (22 topical, 0 hidden)
Producers? (none / 1)

What's all this talk about "producers"? Who are these producers and who is trying to take their earnings? Democrats are talking about the top wealthiest people in the country.

You can argue principle all you want "It's their money, after all!" but from a practical standpoint, they could be doing a lot more for for the rest of us without even feeling it.

How many billionaires exist in America? How many of them have done enough work to warrant earning a billion dollars? None of them. They are examples of capitalism gone awry. Great for them, bad for everybody else.

Make no mistake. Capitalism has just as many problems as communism. That's why we have to blend them together and adjust that blend according to the current scenario.

But people like you don't get that. You think that an answer has to be an extreme in either direction. Hardcore libs think communism is the answer. It isn't. Hardcore cons think capitalism is the answer. It isn't. Furthermore, the answer is not static. It changes as the times change. As people change. As markets change.

But you don't give a fuck about any of that. You're an ideologue. you argue based on the principles of that ideology instead of the facts.

"Terrorism is the war for the poor and powerless. War is the terrorism for the rich and powerful."

by JamesStevensDigArt on 08/01/2010 03:56:17 PM EST

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Betting on investment (none / 0)

You're betting on the notion that all these "producers" are going to invest their profits back into the economy when that's just not the case. It's the difference between relying on the good will of those individuals to do the right thing instead of taking the safe route of taxing them and investing it through public programs. If Joe thinks that buying 10 more trucks is going to be good for his profits, he'll do it. But in a time of economic uncertainty, he's going to be reluctant to do so, and that's when we need his investment the most.

Interesting though, that you would cite Warren Buffet, one of the most outspoken billionaires in favor of taxing the wealthy.

"Terrorism is the war for the poor and powerless. War is the terrorism for the rich and powerful."

by JamesStevensDigArt on 08/01/2010 11:09:10 PM EST

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You're spitting sauce, and it's weak. (none / 0)

"Producers must invest their profits back into the economy if they want to expand operations. In business, you're either growing or withering. Its very similar to nurturing a plant."

Yeah, if they want to grow their business. If they just want to sustain their business, they don't grow it. That doesn't mean the business withers, as you put it. Samuel Adams (the beer) is a good example of a business model which remains small intentionally.

Public programs are not "drains" on anything except exceptionally high profits. And I'm fine with that.

"Joe, and millions of other producers are reluctant to invest in growth because they have no faith in Obommunism. That's why the economy is mired in recession."

The recession that started under Bush in 2002, was only temporarily masked by a wartime economy and the housing bubble, and eventually went into a deep recession still under Bush. You can make the argument that Obama hasn't fixed the economy, but don't act like the recession started because of "Obommunism". In fact, I'll argue right back that "Obommunism" hasn't even been enacted yet because it keeps getting filibustered and watered down in Congress. For all the conservative talk about the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail, no one has given Obama's would-be policies the chance to succeed or fail. We don't know yet. The biggest action Obama has taken was the bailout, but that also didn't start under Obama. That $700b bailout was the Bush administration's "Emergency Economic Stability Act of 2008." 

Remember? Do you remember? Do you? Are you that dumb or just that crooked?

"Terrorism is the war for the poor and powerless. War is the terrorism for the rich and powerful."

by JamesStevensDigArt on 08/02/2010 12:56:26 AM EST

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Strange (none / 0)
You seem to have all the time in the world to argue about things other than the subject. How about explaining why wingnuts continue to think we are "overtaxed" when the actual facts are we are untertaxed on almost any scale and certainly for "wartime."

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 08/04/2010 10:15:15 AM EST

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