There are shades of #4 in him as well (the incompetent empty suit), but IMO that is an ingredient and not the whole cake.  It might be because he doesn't have the experience to get out of this situation that he keeps falling into it, but the bigger diagnosis is that he is at heart a Community Organizer--someone who cannot help but reach out to all sides and always try to reach consensus.  Take some from the Left, some from the Right, and chart a reasonable middle course.

The problem is that Obama only listens to the Conventional Establishment as his "Left" and the Conservative activist Tea Partiers and pundits as his "Right".  Conventional wisdom in Washington is pretty Rightwing at this point.  We _always_ need to strengthen Defense and show overwhelming muscle in tackling every foreign situation, tax increases are _always_ disastrous for the economy, the government is _always_ too invasive, Liberals are _always_ wide-eyed fringe idealists, and Rightwing Democrats like Evan Bayh and Blanche Lincoln are _always_ to be applauded for their "open-minded moderation" for crossing party lines.  The ideal Conventional Wisdom "Democrat" is Joe Lieberman, who is about 15% Liberal, and the ideal Conventional Wisdom Republican is Orrin Hatch, who is about 97% Conservative.

So Obama listens to the Conventional Wisdom Left who tells him constantly that he cannot get much change, that maybe 20-30% of the change he promised is feasible.  And then he listens to the Right, who say that the country should change 400% IN THE OTHER DIRECTION (i.e. more Conservative than we even are now).  And they are the louder and more unified voice.  The result is that Obama gives us 5% change (positively or negatively) and thinks he has mostly appeased his "Left" while also deftly giving some concessions to the Right.  Genius.  I really believe that within this bubble, Obama honestly _thinks_ he is threading the needle and at the same time bringing real change to the system.  And I also believe that, since the Left is mad at him, and the Right is (always) mad at him, he thinks he is prudently in the middle doing a fine job.  Massive drop in approval rating?  M'eh, that's just what happens when you get a little tough on both sides.

And this is why the WH snipes at the (actual) Left.  Obama thinks he is spending his term meticulously determining the exact ratio of change to forge the perfect compromise between his bubble of the "Left" and the Right.  And then we complain that he is giving us nothing (5% is basically nothing--Obama himself said that McCain would have given us 5% change), and he cannot process this disgruntlement other than to conclude that we are greedy/unrealistic and we want everything immediately.  In his mind, he is giving his "Left" plenty and we should be ecstatic about it.  He even feels that the Right should be pretty happy with him, since after all he did split the difference evenly.

So everything else is out of the equation.  The fact that the Right is NOT INTERESTED IN ANY COMPROMISE is not processed because his entire philosophy revolves around getting consensus.  He doesn't accept that no consensus will ever, EVER be possible unless he completely capitulates 100% to the Conservative position.  The fact that the polls show the country way further to the Left than the Conventional Wisdom is not processed because he has already chosen the Left side of his Washington bubble to listen to.  And Tim Geithner and Rahm Emanuel's job is to keep him inside that bubble and never let him believe that there is anything to the Left of it (there literally isn't anything to the Right of the bubble, so they don't have that issue).  

If conventional wisdom changed, which would involve the Democratic Party standing up for Progressive values, the Progressive movement forcing its way to the big microphones, and the media performing actual journalism rather than Establishment stenography, I would bet that Obama would naturally begin to skew toward the Left, since his Washington bubble would widen Leftward, making the "middle" of the bubble further Left.  Ergo, do I think he is a hopeless Establishment-corporatist shill whose actual governing philosophy is closer to the Right than to the Center?  No.  But he wants to be in the middle, and the middle between Center-Right Wishy-Washy Academic and the KKK is pretty damn far Right.     

by Milltycoon on 09/04/2010 12:28:48 AM EST

I dont' even know what to say to that.

You know my wife and I have talked about this a lot. We are inclined that he has a degree of elitism in him that he doesn't even see. It is almost like he thinks he knows what is best, and they we just have to trust him. I have looked at some of the things he has said, and the people who surround him and can't help but think that he is one of those guys who thinks that anyone who really works hard can make it. He sees himself therefore as being in a position to balance things out by being able to influence change as he sees it, that is consistent with his world view.

All I can say is that I must assume he really don't learn a hell of a lot while he was growing up about how people actually live their lives, and I don't think he understands that many of us just "can't make it", regardless of the changes he thinks are made to give everyone an equal chance. Its like he didn't notice that not everyone who worked with in the projects didn't make it and that sitting in reverned wright's chruch, while frankly, jets over his head.

What makes me say that is the choice he made of Arne Duncan as his secretary of education, the effort to distance himself for people like the Reverend Wright (if you can distance yourself from some of the things he said, and frankly, I am not convinced I don't agree with the basic crux of that message, though I dont'think I would have put it that way; maybe that is laughable to say, I grew up in a white house hold, comfortably, my dad was a teacher, my family were professionals, and I was an officer in the Navy. I mean, really what do I honeslty know about growing up either poor, or poor and black? Nothing), Arne Duncan, you know how the tune goes.

I spent 20 plus years in the Navy and I came to realize that not everyone is equally gifter, and so not everyone is going "to make it", as we understand that term to mean. I am no genius, not necessarily a person of highest intellect, or for that matter, maybe not much of a leader, but I do know that is not some abstract intellectual exercise where all we have to do is massage things on the edges and everything will fall into place. I guess I just don't believe the President really gets that.

It is too bad you know, he could have been another FDR. It was all there for him, and he didn't even realize it I think. I guess that is why I was looking for an explanation, and yours resonantes with me.

Hey, thanks for taking the time to reply. I thinK I get it better now, but I really don't know what to do with it. I feel pretty damn depressed. I really appreciate your insight and help with this. I hope my reply makes some sense back.

Listen, all the best to you and yours then, and maybe we'll chat again.

Very respectfully.

Art in Winnipeg.

by acramer on 09/04/2010 02:24:21 AM EST

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Most of the country is more Conservative than Liberal, despite what Tiny says...

There are more of us than there are of them...

:)

by bobo1 on 09/04/2010 05:40:04 PM EST

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In these polls, people have until recently been taking very liberal positions on issues. I think the problem is that especially Obama, and then the rest of the Dems haven't really tried to do anything about the narrative.

The issue is really about the narrative. If the other side does all of the talking, not much changes. It is really simple. I don't think people are conservative in what they actually want. The big problem is the don't understand where they need to go to get what they want.

And to whom can be place the fault for this, Obama. He is a complete, dissmal failure. He is a coward, weak, and has almost a halucinatory view of what people want. In actual fact, his election has proven to be worse then getting McCain. This is a real nightmare scenario. He has given the Rethugs the tools to convince people that Govenrment is there enemy; he has reinforced the Regan narrative.

Oh well, Obama is a millionaire. At least he and his family won't have to deal with the effects of his failure. I can't believe it, or maybe I can, but just don't want to look at it.

I am so depressed.

by acramer on 09/05/2010 01:57:05 AM EST

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