Real news doesn't come from TYT | 37 comments (37 topical, 0 hidden)
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Cenk, while much better than most, has fallen into the mainstream media circular firing squad. Too often he fails to seperate himself from the mainstream talking points and framing.  That in itself is what will kill the progressive movement.

Very sad to say but every single day TYT gets closer to Bill Press. If I wanted yuk, yuk radio I would be still be listening to Bill Press and Stephanie Miller.

by sisco66 on 09/04/2010 10:44:07 AM EST

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Sadly, that's all that interests people.
If it isn't a story on the MSM hardly anybody on this forum wants to discuss anything.
Just look at how many comments blogs get that discuss something else than mainstream talking points (or pop-culture).

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 09/04/2010 12:56:09 PM EST

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3 out of 10 (none / 0)
Usually peak my interest when I have time to post. It's hard to keep up with it all.  That said, if I want to get deep I just go to Hartman's page. It would be nice if there was some middle ground.

by sisco66 on 09/04/2010 08:29:56 PM EST

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I don't really know about "Hartman's page", but whenyou are interested in anything, Der Spiegel is the place to go to, if you want, what would be considered in America to be left-wing news.

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 09/04/2010 11:03:20 PM EST

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news (none / 0)
Cool thanks. I don't really want slant, just facts, or at the very least objective opinion. I will check it out. The guys blogging on Thom Hartmann's site tend to be very detailed on info and cite a lot of thesis level references.


by sisco66 on 09/05/2010 05:11:18 PM EST

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"Mainstream media circular firing squad"?  "Mainstream talking points and framing"?

Those are just clichés.  Aside from that, I don't think you can't find any mainstream news outlets that offer the kind of perspective the Cenk presents.

Cenk's job isn't to present the news.  His job is to comment on events.  Sure, he's a free trader and sometimes strays too far to the right, not (apparently) understanding the necessity of fair trade.  But, other than that, I doubt that you'll find Cenk's point of view represented in mainstream media outlets.  Even NPR has been dragged from reality to the right.

And that "circular firing squad" comment is not a valid criticism.  We have enemies on the right, and some of them have infiltrated the ranks of the Democratic Party.  Corporatist policies must be attacked wherever they are found.  Right-wing Democrats are as dangerous to our country as Republican right-wingers.

Sure, I'm disappointed that TYT has been reduced to only an hour a day of political and economic commentary.  I agree about the "yuk-yuk" stuff.  But While they might lose one of us who is interested in more serious coverage, TYT will pick up four yahoos who don't care so much.  You can't blame them for going for the money.

by EveningStarNM on 09/04/2010 01:42:47 PM EST

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Trade (none / 0)

I take partial credit for Cenk getting better on trade. And trust me, he's much, much better than he was on the issue even just a few months ago.

 

by Tom Hanc on 09/04/2010 02:40:04 PM EST

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good work (none / 0)
Tom, You have been helping Cenk out of the right-wing closet for a long time. The one thing I will say, once Cenk gets all the facts in front of him, he usually figures it out. So keep feeding him the facts.

by sisco66 on 09/04/2010 08:32:41 PM EST

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stimulus & healthcare (none / 0)
are circular firing squads.  The housing issue was coming to a head two weeks ago. No coverage, just NYC BS over and over. Reminds me of Natilie Holloway. TYT needs to be able to cut through the smoke screens as well as beat the drum for people like Geithner, Sommers and Bernanke.

The left needs to learn how to Van Jone's a guy. Considering the amount of evidence on those three it really should not be that hard.

by sisco66 on 09/04/2010 08:36:29 PM EST

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