The Republican Party Might Soon Become Irrelevant

Republicans might have done irreparable damage to themselves in the last six years. They have cost themselves two blocks of voters that might never return (or not return for a painfully long time): 1. Moderate voters in the Northeast 2. Hispanic voters.

The Northeast is the new South. Republicans seem to have lost the Northeast in a way similar to how the Democrats lost the South. Except the Democrats lost the South because they refused to go along with racism ... I'm sorry, I meant "states' rights." Whereas Republicans have lost the Northeast because they have eschewed reasonably moderate positions on issues ranging from religion, to civil rights, to poverty, to war, to the environment and beyond.

I am confident that eventually the South will move on from its racist past. In fact, I think they are close to that moment now (I think George Allen's defeat is more instructive here then Harold Ford's).

Religious fundamentalism tinged with gay baiting has served as a handy replacement for now. But an ideology based on hating an outside group is hard to maintain - it needs a never ending crop of new groups to demonize. Eventually, you've demonized more than half the country - and you're in a lot of political trouble.

Which brings us to the Hispanic vote. To be fair to George W. Bush, Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove, for all the heinous things they have done, they were smart enough (and perhaps compassionate enough, depending on your take) to court Hispanic voters. They realized it was a very bad long term play to demonize the Hispanics in this country. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, this was the one idea by the Bush crowd that House Republicans chose, in their infinite wisdom, to not follow.

They were on board for Iraq, torture, taking away habeas corpus, denying the minimum wage, etc., etc., but when Bush said be careful in pissing off a huge chunk of voters that only promises to grow larger, that's where they drew the line.

House Republicans have been running on hate for so long, they don't have another play in the playbook. So, when they threatened to make nearly every Hispanic-American a felon by insisting on a law that would criminalize even knowing an illegal alien (and not turning them in), they cost themselves in a way that will hurt them for a long time to come.

So, Hispanics are the new blacks. George W. Bush got anywhere between 40-45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. In 2006, Congressional Republicans got only 23-29% of the Hispanic vote. That's not a bad trend. That's a disastrous trend. If the Hispanic vote goes the way of the black vote and becomes 90% Democratic, it's over for the Republican Party. Kiss the Southwest goodbye. Kiss national elections goodbye. Kiss close elections goodbye.

Throw in the fact that it looks like the Midwest and the Mountain West is quickly becoming as disgruntled as the Northeast with Republican extremism, and you have a recipe for a dying party.

It'll take decades for Republicans to win back the trust of the Northeast. Right now 68 out of the 92 House seats in the area are Democratic, and so are 17 out of the 22 Senate seats. And it only promises to get worse in the immediate future.

If Congressional Republicans insist on taking on the entire Hispanic population of the US, it will also take decades for them to recover from that mistake. And how many mistakes will it take to drive a stake through the party? How many geographic regions and voting blocs can they abandon before they become an anachronistic, washed out sad old party? I guess we'd have to rename them the SOP then. The Sad Old Party.

For the record, this is not Monday morning quarterbacking. I wrote about this over three years ago. Extremism might work in the short term, especially in extreme times like the aftermath of 9/11. But in this country it is a horrible place to be in the long term. It is not tenable. It wasn't tenable back then. The 2006 elections are simply the chickens coming home to roost.

If the Republicans don't rush back to the middle soon, there will be a reckoning coming. They risk slipping into irrelevance. They've now learned the hard way that the answer in Iraq is not to stubbornly stay the course. If they don't learn that same lesson in domestic politics, they will have the same result here.

Structural problems always catch up with you. America is not an extreme country and if you run to either extreme long enough, you will pay the price. Just ask 29 Republican congressmen, 6 Republican senators and 6 Republican governors what happened to them this past Tuesday. And this is just the beginning of the trend.

The Young Turks

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There will always be ignorant people for the current breed of Republicans to pander to.  Many, many of them -- many of whom remain willfully ignorant out of some twisted sense of pride.

Gone are the Goldwater Republicans, I'm afraid. 

by jarett on 11/10/2006 12:04:38 PM EST

Dems come through on all their promises. Plus you forget Americans have very short memories (can't help the pun). At least half the righty voters will not remember how bad their party screwed them 2 years from now. They'll just have hate for liberals the same as they do now. Plus you're not factoring in the corporate power that has taken over our politics in many ways. We need to do something about lobbyists and have public funding of campaigns along with limits.

by MountainMan on 11/10/2006 12:48:03 PM EST

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. It wasn't to long ago I was reading about the  Republicans predictions of a  " permanent majority" after the 2004 elections.

If the Democrats don't perform...it could easily be a Republican Senate and House in 2008.

 

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 11/10/2006 04:32:10 PM EST

"If the Democrats don't perform...it could easily be a Republican Senate and House in 2008."

There is no chance there will be a republican senate in 2008. "I can almost guarantee that.

by acroso on 11/10/2006 06:15:02 PM EST

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Who's up for re-election in '08?

by jarett on 11/12/2006 05:25:22 PM EST

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That's 21 R's up and 12 D's up.

I have heard it said we were better off having lost in 2006 because there was only 15 R's up so there is less cahnge in the air for 08. I think that logic is hogwash though.

by acroso on 11/13/2006 12:30:05 AM EST

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I think there's a good chance both Mary Landrieu and Norm Coleman could go bye-bye.

by jarett on 11/13/2006 02:15:37 AM EST

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We angered the illegal immigrant vote? Illegals went strong for Dems this election I think.


by acroso on 11/10/2006 06:13:33 PM EST

We angered the illegal immigrant vote?

I think that is the point being made here, is it not ?
Much as the Republicans decided to write off the Nigger vote ?
The GOP has now decided to write off the Hispanic vote as well ?
Macacawitz for Prez. 2008
It would appear the NASCAR, Racist, CEO, NeoCon and TheoCon wing has won your party out.
Glad my party has such a big tent.

by LayZayFare on 11/11/2006 12:24:12 AM EST

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you seem to like the n word.

by acroso on 11/11/2006 10:36:25 AM EST

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I should have said the GOP has decided to give up the Macaca Vote.
The "Nigras" and "Messicans", as some say here in the Southland.

by LayZayFare on 11/12/2006 11:58:46 AM EST

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besides it's not racist to write off the illegal immigrant vote.

by acroso on 11/11/2006 10:37:14 AM EST

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"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 11/11/2006 10:41:36 AM EST

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95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

by acroso on 11/12/2006 04:12:14 PM EST

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Where did you get that ridiculous statistic?  Pat Buchanan?

by jarett on 11/12/2006 04:25:00 PM EST

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http://usaborderalert.com/

But they got it from
2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants

by acroso on 11/12/2006 05:14:53 PM EST

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"66% plus of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers"

So you add together the illegals having kids with the legal Hispanics having kids and that means the legal whites probably produce about 20% of the kids.

Welcome to the rising tide in Mexifornia

by acroso on 11/12/2006 05:17:44 PM EST

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Yes, especially the illegals. Kennedy has a guest voter program proposed: citizenship for votes.

by acroso on 11/12/2006 05:29:12 PM EST

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they wouldn't be "guests" anymore would they?

 

And what the HELL are you talking about?! 

by jarett on 11/12/2006 07:21:43 PM EST

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that illegal immigrants were a significant source of votes in the election on November 7, 2006.

by jarett on 11/12/2006 04:24:17 PM EST

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Well if Bill Richardson ever turns over the drivers licenses list in New Mexico...

then reality will be shown to all who do not cover their eyes.

by acroso on 11/12/2006 07:52:17 PM EST

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are not sufficient for voting, you silly ass.

by jarett on 11/13/2006 02:16:38 AM EST

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...not when they issue them to illegal immigrants!

by acroso on 11/13/2006 03:14:39 AM EST

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Just how many "illegals" do you think voted in Missouri, Montana, Rhodi Island, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia?

Most are hardly States with a "illegal" voting problems. It was by all accounts a fair election, certified by Republicans and Democrats alike, but sour grapes make some people clutch at any straw they can to feel better.

About that bud you've been smoking did you bring enough for everyone?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 11/10/2006 07:04:41 PM EST

"America is moving away from its puritan past and becoming more in tune with the progressive countries in the rest of the world. I feel this change will be for the most part permanent."

I have an idea for another permanent change. Why don't you consider moving to one of the progressive countries in the rest of the world, like France?

Why stay here and try to fukk up America?

by KenTX on 11/11/2006 05:42:04 AM EST

I have an idea for another permanent change. Why don't you consider moving to one of the progressive countries in the rest of the world, like France?

The world's best place to live?

Well, yes…France. Good climate, unspoiled countryside, world-competitive infrastructure, plus the best health care in the world.
The culture is top-notch. UNESCO has named 30 World Heritage Sites in this country (by comparison, Italy, with 40, has the most cultural and heritage sites in the world). And its capital, Paris, is arguably the world's most beautiful and romantic city on earth. France sees in excess of 70 million overseas visitors each year, making it the world's favorite destination.
More than that, though, it's the first time in 21 years that any country other than the United States has come out tops in our Index. This year, the United States drops from the top spot to sixth position.

Of course you would have to sacrifice Velveeta, Ripple and Wonderbread for Brie, Bourdeux and fresh Baguettes.
"Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité"
http://www.internationalliv ing.com/qol06

by LayZayFare on 11/12/2006 11:48:10 AM EST

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is a hell of a lot more bigoted than ours is.

by jarett on 11/12/2006 04:22:39 PM EST

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France more bigoted?  Are you sure?

George Allen almost won.  At least a major portion, if not all, of his votes came from voters who knew they were voting for a racist.  If you couple that with the fact that George was as much of a rubber stamp for Bush as was Santorum, the only conclusion is that those who voted for Allen voted that way because he was racist.

There are probably a lot more racists in Virginia than in Pennsylvania.

Ditto for Corker / Ford, except Corker won.  Fact is, if Ford took exactly the same position on everything but was white, he probably would have won.  In Tennesee the repubs pandered to racists and it worked, and doing so can only work if enough voters are racist.

Of course, they have been pandering to evangelicels and that is no longer working.  No wonder there, the Repubs controlled both houses of congress and the white house and stacked the supreme court, but abortion choice is still the law of the land.  Evangelicels are realizing they are being pandered to, and they are not getting anything for it, and they are turning to other issues to decide their votes.  This is why 1/3 of them voted for Democrats.

Hopefully, as politicians supported by racists don't actually pass any racist laws, racists will do the same.

Bob

by ismonty on 11/13/2006 06:50:24 AM EST

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All of France is like Tennessee and Southern Virginia.  I'm not even kidding.

by jarett on 11/14/2006 12:31:53 PM EST

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“The world's best place to live? Well, yes…France. World-competitive infrastructure!”

I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, but I will agree that France is a socialist’s dreamland.

France’s top personal tax rate is 48 percent, with a VAT tax of nearly 20 percent. So that means French laborers face a combined 68 percent tax rate on consumption and investment. No wonder France has created less than 3 million jobs over the past 20 years, compared to 31 million in the United States. Economic growth in “cowboy capitalist” America has exceeded that of France’s worker paradise by nearly 50 percent.

In a dramatic speech to the European Parliament last summer, British Prime Minister Tony Blair hit the mark when he criticized all Western European economies for their inability to compete on an acceptable global level. Asked Blair, “What type of social model is it that has 20 million unemployed in Europe? Productivity rates falling behind those of the USA? That, on any relative index of a modern economy — skills, R&D, patents, information technology — is going down, not up?”

Financial Times international editor Olaf Gersemann blames French and European unemployment on high minimum-wage requirements and overly strict employment-protection laws. Gersemann, who scathingly criticized Western Europe in his book “Cowboy Capitalism,” says these labor-market regulations have created millions of involuntary unemployed throughout Europe, affecting immigrants in particular. He writes, “Most French, German, and Italian voters simply refuse to accept the necessity of a Thatcher-Reagan style economic revolution.” He notes that per capita income in the U.S. now exceeds that of France by close to 40 percent, with Germany and Italy lagging even further behind.

This explains why investment capital is fleeing France, and the only thing they still produce is wine, cheese, and truffles.

On average, at least one millionaire leaves France every day to take up residence in more wealth-friendly nations, according to a government study.

At a time when France is struggling to stay competitive in an increasingly integrated world, business leaders say the country can't afford to make refugees of some of its most established business families. They include members of the Taittinger champagne empire, the Peugeot auto magnates and leading shareholders of dominant retailers Carrefour and Darty. Also going are members of a new generation of high-tech entrepreneurs.

Socialist leaders and some government officials argue that the rich are merely trying to shirk their social responsibilities by fleeing the country with their millions.

The wealth tax -- officially called the solidarity tax -- is collected on top of income, capital gains, inheritance and social security taxes. It's part of the reason France consistently ranks at the top of Forbes magazine's annual Tax Misery Index -- a global listing of the most heavily taxed nations.

"This tendency to take from the rich and give to the poor which is supposed to solve all the problems in France is ruining the country," said Alain Marchand, who left France six years ago and now has a London-based consulting business that helps relocate French business leaders and entrepreneurs in England and other countries. "That's an incredibly stupid and narrow-minded vision of economic life."


Eric Pinchet, author of a French tax guide, estimates the wealth tax earns the government about $2.6 billion a year but has cost the country more than $125 billion in capital flight since 1998.

In France, employers are required to pay social security taxes equal to 48 percent of each employee's salary. Labor laws make it difficult and costly to fire incompetent workers.

by KenTX on 11/12/2006 09:52:00 PM EST

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Have you seen those multi-page advertisements in magazines like the Economist about how France is such a great place to start/have a business, and their economy is booming, etc. etc.?

by jarett on 11/13/2006 02:12:52 AM EST

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"Have you seen those multi-page advertisements in magazines like the Economist about how France is such a great place to start/have a business, and their economy is booming, etc. etc.?"

You mean the ads placed by the French Chamber of Commerce?

I prefer independent analysis by the Wall Street Journal describing their economy as hopelessly mired in Pelosi Socialism.

by KenTX on 11/13/2006 08:42:28 AM EST

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Chacun sait que l'économie française est bien! Ken, appellent une référence ce qui indique que l'économie française est dirtied dans la boue du socilism Pelosi

Votre ami, le grand MrFred

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 11/13/2006 06:09:59 PM EST

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L'économie française est plus faible que le caractère du kerry de John. La France est pleine des terroristes, des homosexuels, des socialistes et des Étrangers. Vous vous sentiriez exact à la maison.
 

Des conservateurs comme moi seraient enchantés pour vous aider à acheter un aller simple vers la France, ainsi vous pouvez baiser vers le haut de leur pays au lieu du nôtre.
 

Vous êtes le plus grand abruti dans le forum entier.

by KenTX on 11/13/2006 07:02:22 PM EST

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horrible syntax by the way .  Mon Dieu !  Mon pauvre , malheureux, "peu" homme!  Bricon ! Votre Français est terrible !

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 11/13/2006 08:53:03 PM EST

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Je pense que vous devez avoir un petit pénis. C'est le problème ! Votre tête est formée comme une, seulement plus petit ! " (Riant !) Bidon vous dites « tête du pénis »!

KenTEx, « tête du pénis » ! Je morte du rire!

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 11/14/2006 11:46:35 AM EST

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 J'ai voulu dire "du Pelosi " !

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 11/13/2006 09:00:17 PM EST

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http://releases.usnewswire. com/GetRelease.asp?id=76225

Murtha makes 20 msot corrupt politicians list. This is same group who wanted Tom Delay out.

maybe it will take a woman to clean up the house- or amybe it won't?

by acroso on 11/13/2006 07:00:38 PM EST

"Not only is Rep. Murtha beset by ethics issues, The New York Times reported on Oct. 2 that he has consistently opposed ethics and earmark reform. Sloan continued, "Rep. Murtha's opposition to ethics reform does not bode well for future Speaker Pelosi's promise to enact ethics legislation in the first 100 hours of the new Congress.""

by acroso on 11/13/2006 07:04:01 PM EST

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He's excellent at cutting backroom deals to get what he wants.  It sounds like his cutthroatness could extend beyond the ethical.

If that's the case, I don't need him around, regardless of his support for ending the war.

How's that for nonpartisanship? 

by jarett on 11/14/2006 12:35:20 PM EST

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Our biggest failure was not securing our borders and deporting all illegals like the 9/11 hyjackers who overstayed their Visas

I have no doubt there is a fresh batch of illegals here plotting attacks, and Ted Kennedy demands they be given citizenship!

by acroso on 11/14/2006 02:12:23 PM EST

I see.

How many Mexicans participated in the attack on American soil on 9/11? 

by jarett on 11/14/2006 02:59:44 PM EST

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Wee can't discriminate among the illegals and single out just Mexicans. The 9/11 hijackers overstayed their Visas.

Why not just deport everyone who overstays and not just the non-Mexican illegals.

If we afford citizenship tho the terrorists and we manage to catch them, we won't be able to sent them to club Gitmo-tropical retreat from Jihad. This would be a lose-lose situation since we won't get the information we need out of them and they won't get vacation.

by acroso on 11/14/2006 03:14:16 PM EST

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Or...you could be like that Fred guy and post pictures of Dogs and handicapped folk.

by acroso on 11/14/2006 10:35:41 PM EST

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Every time Acroso makes a post where the subject line is just a plural noun, you have to take a drink.  Party on.

I don't think my liver can survive that game.

by Twba on 11/15/2006 01:32:55 AM EST

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