Time for a Democratic Senate! Sorry Republicans!

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Composite of polls show Dems ahead in the House AND the Senate.  Looks like (assuming no election fraud) some of us are going to be eating quite a few hats after November 7.

The question is, what then?  As soon as this happens we need to whip their asses into shape.  No more bullshit -- they will get stuff DONE or the American electorate will demand they answer for it.
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Time for a Democratic Senate! Sorry Republicans! | 110 comments (110 topical, 0 hidden)
bumpity (none / 0)
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by jarett on 11/04/2006 01:40:56 PM EST

polls (none / 0)
First off the senate

New Jersey- Dem is too far ahead and will win. Tennessee- Corker is too far ahead and will win.

Ohio and Rhode Island and Penn will go Dem. Polls aren't close.

That leaves Montana which is at 47-47, Maryland where Steele is surging, and Missouri of course.

Dems seem to have a guaranteed +3 seat pickup. After that though I fail to see how it's obvious Dems will win the senate. If republicans sweep those last three I mentioned, you're looking at a lousy +2 seat gain because Steele would be taking a Dem seat. And does losing Chafee even count? Dewhine is a RINO although a decent RINO by RINO standards. We’re really only losing Santorum. If Steele wins, who knows maybe that is a fair trade?
If you think that scenario is unlikely well….I guess you’ll get your November surprise on Wednesday and you realize Bush won big.

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The house- I've seen polls one week at -10 and +10 the next. These polls are all over the map.

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Last point the pollsters were wrong about how independents broke in 2004 and will be wrong again this year. I have little faith in the results they put out other than indicating general trends.

by acroso on 11/04/2006 01:50:38 PM EST

I like your optimism (none / 0)
but I still have some doubts.

The GOP has a lock on 49 seats (with TN).

That leaves MT, MO, MD, VA.

We need a victory in one of these races to tie. That gives us the tie-breaker with Dick Cheney and Joe Lieberman, our newly elected Republican Senator from CT.

Acroso, can the GOP take one of the four Senate races?

by KenTX on 11/04/2006 02:00:46 PM EST

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*snicker* (none / 0)
Joe Lieberman, our newly elected Republican Senator from CT

by jarett on 11/04/2006 02:05:07 PM EST

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Yes (none / 0)
The media is guilty of a collective groupthink, and I've become very positive this is the case. The media coverage of this election vs 02 is about 10X as much because the Dems are doing well in this one.

Remember the polling done before the 04 election that had libs winning in a landslide. We all knew it was bogus.

Some of the more egregious

Tennessee: Zogby Poll: Tennessee numbers. Zogby showed Bush +3.3%, acutal was 14%.

W. Virginia: Zogby Poll: Bush +4.5% Actual: Bush +13% Difference between Poll and Actual: Bush +8.5%

Iowa: Zogby Poll: Kerry +6% Actual: Bush +5% Difference between Poll and Actual: Bush +11%

Florida: Zogby Poll: Kerry +1% Actual: Bush +5% Difference between Poll and Actual: Bush +6%


Wisconsin: Zogby Poll: Kerry +7% Actual: Kerry +1% Difference between Poll and Actual: Bush +6%


Republicans won't win in VA. I think Steele will win and I also think Burns will win. Talent is the real question mark.

If we get Steele for Santorum and then lose Talent. Even though the Dem will have picked up a few seats, I still consider it almost only a -1.

I think these polls will be exposed

by acroso on 11/04/2006 02:07:36 PM EST

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puncher's chance (none / 0)
"Republicans won't win in VA."


Rasmussen's poll has Allen and Webb in a 49/49 tie.

by KenTX on 11/04/2006 02:17:21 PM EST

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shoot (none / 0)
Somehow I am mixing up my states :/

Republicans won't win New Jersey. aka I Kean can't beat Menendez.

In a red state, Allen will win in Virginia I assume.

by acroso on 11/04/2006 02:20:19 PM EST

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Reaganite in sheeple's clothing (none / 0)
In a red state, Allen will win in Virginia I assume.

Allen spent most of his campaign with his foot in his mouth. Webb is so conservative that he is a DINO. I wouldn't be surprised to see Webb win.

by Twba on 11/04/2006 03:02:26 PM EST

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TWBA (none / 0)
TWBA

You don't get it. These polls are wrong. Republicans WILL come out and vote. Democrats will sleep in. We're already seeing it happening in Florida-13, Katherine Harris's old seat that realclearpolitics has been listing as one of the 18 tossups.

Not only do the Dems lack a good turnout program, but its base itself is a very undetermined group.


I’ll be sure and tell you all the reason why I think you lost after Tuesday.

 

EARLY VOTING AND ABSENTEE BALLOTS
Sarasota County as of Nov. 3

Early voting:

Democrats: 9,309

Republicans: 12,115

Others: 4,710

Total: 26,134

Absentee ballots:

Democrats: 5,626

Republicans: 11,695

Others: 1,996

Total: 19,317

EARLY VOTING AND ABSENTEE BALLOTS
Sarasota County as of Nov. 3

Early voting:

Democrats: 9,309

Republicans: 12,115

Others: 4,710

Total: 26,134

Absentee ballots:

Democrats: 5,626

Republicans: 11,695

Others: 1,996

Total: 19,317

by acroso on 11/04/2006 03:10:02 PM EST

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robert DeNIrO (none / 0)
Webb is so conservative that he is a DINO.

You don't get it.

Allen is a stupid conservative. Webb is a smart conservative. What don't I get? I'm laughing at statist nincompoops voting for the guy who wrote this.

I think Ds will take House and Rs will hold Senate. The pooch screwing in Iraq will continue.

by Twba on 11/04/2006 03:33:34 PM EST

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Webb (none / 0)
I wonder if Webb would support originalist judges and vote against Kennedy immigration.

by acroso on 11/04/2006 03:37:31 PM EST

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Vagueness on the edge of town (none / 0)
Webb doesn't give too many details.

by Twba on 11/04/2006 04:00:57 PM EST

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TriBeCa (none / 0)
Born Fighting is one of my favorite books of all time.

It traces my ancestors from the Highlands and Borders to Ulster to PA to NC to TN to TX.

This represents about 80% of my ethnic make-up.

by KenTX on 11/04/2006 08:48:02 PM EST

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Allen (none / 0)
Allen has always reminded me of the dumb uncle in Christmas vacation that always comes to Clark Griswald's house.

Having said that he's a solid GOP vote on every issue and a pretty damn good senator.

I don't think he should ever run for president though.

by acroso on 11/04/2006 08:59:36 PM EST

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Doh (none / 0)
I don't think he should ever run for president though.

Or operate heavy machinery.

by Twba on 11/04/2006 10:46:12 PM EST

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Burning down the house (none / 0)
U R in Flames

Stop playing with matches

by LORD FOUL on 11/08/2006 09:37:56 AM EST

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Twba in touch with the Culture of Reality (none / 0)
I'd just like to note that he called it.

by jarett on 11/08/2006 03:02:53 PM EST

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As usual, KenTX is spot-on (none / 0)
How's that crow taste, aCROWso?

by jarett on 11/08/2006 03:01:23 PM EST

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I can take it (none / 0)
Guys, I’m back to take my thumpin’ (in the words of GWB). I haven’t been hiding, rather, I’ve been moving between meetings in Akron, Memphis, and Little Rock.

Readers of my posts know that the results of this election were hardly a surprise to me. In fact, here was my last minute reading of the tea leaves. I knew we had 49 Senate seats in the bag, but I thought the last four would be very close.

As for my over/under of four turnovers in the Senate, who knew that all four tight races would flip by 0.00001%?’m good, but I’m not that good!

by KenTX on 11/09/2006 06:32:55 AM EST

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Just vote this way and don't touch anything (none / 0)
Allen has always reminded me of the dumb uncle in Christmas vacation that always comes to Clark Griswald's house.

Having said that he's a solid GOP vote on every issue and a pretty damn good senator.

Dumb uncles make the best senators?

That pretty much sums up what Cons want in a politician, a dumb uncle who votes the way the party tells him with absolutly no thinking or decision making of his own.

Well at least Acroso admits dumb is good in the GOP, which explains their adoration of the village idiot from Crawford.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 11/05/2006 10:08:46 AM EST

we like 'em dumb (none / 0)
"Well at least Acroso admits dumb is good in the GOP, which explains their adoration of the village idiot from Crawford."

Hubble figured out the Republicans. We like dumb presidents.

Democrats said Eisenhower was dumb.

Democrats said Reagan was dumb.

Democrats said Ford was dumb. (OK, they were right about Ford.)

Democrats said Bush 41 was dumb.

In the 50s, Democrats said Nixon was dumb. But then they found out how tricky he was.

Interesting that historians say that Eisenhower and Reagan rank as Top Ten Presidents.

I think you will be very surprised how historians ultimately rank Bush 43. 







by KenTX on 11/05/2006 10:47:21 AM EST

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WPE (none / 0)
Worst President Ever

by LORD FOUL on 11/05/2006 08:38:07 PM EST

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Dumb is as dumb does (none / 0)
Dumb is blathering on a bunch of neo con bull shit on a progressive message board just to get attention

Bush has already been judged as one of the worst presidents in history. I doubt that will ever change and anyone who thinks it will is well.. dumb.

by SamHammich on 11/05/2006 10:53:56 PM EST

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just here to help (none / 0)
"blathering on a bunch of neo con bull shit on a progressive message board just to get attention"

Think of it as public service, where we are providing remedial education for the politically impaired.

by KenTX on 11/05/2006 11:04:22 PM EST

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Nancy (none / 0)
Ken, well at least we can both be amused if Nancy takes charge dressed in Burka and enacting this so called contract with terrorists.

Connors has already said Subpoenas are on the way and Cheney and Bush, and Bush and Cheney have both said they will not respond to these subpoenas. Are they going to hold the elected president and vice president in contempt lol!

by acroso on 11/05/2006 11:14:55 PM EST

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Thats the problem you don't think (none / 0)
I think of it as a cry for help on your part.

by EvaDestruction on 11/07/2006 04:31:24 PM EST

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it must have conservative historians (none / 0)
i will give you eisenhower but reagan, c'mon that's just silly.

by thbbbt on 11/06/2006 06:29:48 AM EST

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fake wave (none / 0)
This "wave" stuff is fake- I must inform you all.


We have the same numbers on the generic ballot as in 2002 according to Gallup and the GOP is more favorable than in 2002 the two other polls out this weekend. We have a stronger GOTV effort, twice the money going into these races as Democrats, and the races being fought entirely in heavily red GOP districts. Bush, McCain, Laura, Rice as barnstorming, and on top of that we have Kerry out insulting the troops and the heartland. Even more important is the trend that is occurring this weekend. We don’t have new polls on any of these races, but they have no doubt just tilted heavily red. Emmanuel has overreached shooting for too many districts most of which he never had a chance at in the first place instead of concentrating on gain able blue states. Dean meanwhile has refused to put money into these races with the exception of a last minute loan. Now the dems are going after Arizona in the last days of the campaign where Kyle is soundly ahead?

After the Dems get their clocks cleaned, it will be blame Diebold. This is the only possible out Dems have when the people speak loud and clearly on Tuesday that they don't want the contract with terrorists.

 

by acroso on 11/05/2006 10:22:37 PM EST

Trolls be gone (none / 0)
The repugs can't win an election without cheating. Be it re drawing districts or messing with voting machines. The civil war in iraq, the culture of corruption, closet gays  bashing gays. People are just sick of them  and you.


by SamHammich on 11/05/2006 11:00:08 PM EST

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Diebold (none / 0)
So if the Dems win, that means the machines work?

by acroso on 11/06/2006 12:50:29 AM EST

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What will you do (none / 0)
when you lose?

by jarett on 11/06/2006 04:58:30 AM EST

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the perfect outcome (none / 0)
What will you do when you lose?

The perfect scenario. GOP loses the House by a single seat, while somehow maintaining control of the Senate.

This allows the Dems to make fools of themseleves without having a governing majority to get anything done.

by KenTX on 11/06/2006 10:50:41 AM EST

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I agree (none / 0)
I agree, the Dems taking over is the perfect outcome. Get those fascist corrupt Cretan Repugs the hell out of there   o

by SamHammich on 11/06/2006 03:52:00 PM EST

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not at all (none / 0)
everyone knows that diebold has done everything possible to rig the machines for the repiglicans.  the secret is that they can only nudge them by a few points without it be obvious.  when the dems win, it means the people have turned out enmasse to get rid of these evil b*st*rds.

by thbbbt on 11/06/2006 06:20:02 AM EST

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sure (none / 0)
If the Dems win it means DEMOCRACY worked. I know that's a foreign concept to you.

Have you gotten enough attention today?

by EvaDestruction on 11/07/2006 04:35:38 PM EST

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acroso and voting machines (none / 0)
You know what?  I'd STILL like to see the voting machines investigated.  I bet there was still a significant amount of Republican voter fraud.  I don't trust Diebold any more than I trust the GOP.

by jarett on 11/08/2006 03:05:23 PM EST

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I voted . . . I think (none / 0)
I'd STILL like to see the voting machines investigated.

You have to read this for a different point of view on electronic voting.

by Twba on 11/08/2006 03:14:58 PM EST

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heh (none / 0)

::applause::

Scott Adams ueber alles. 

by jarett on 11/08/2006 05:18:29 PM EST

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2nd amendment (none / 0)
hilarious...by the way it's nice to see scott adams has the same argument as I do for supporting the 2nd amendment

"The important thing with democracy – and this has always been the case – is that the citizens a) Believe the election result is based on the common sense and voting rights of the citizens, and b) Have enough handguns to wax any politicians who gets too seriously out of line (also known as a “check and balance”)."

by alphasigmookie on 11/08/2006 07:29:48 PM EST

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meltdown alert (none / 0)
http://www.tnr.com/blog/the plank?pid=54485

by acroso on 11/06/2006 11:55:54 AM EST

Dont you have some finger painting to do? (none / 0)
Even a person that has the most rudementary motor skills would know better than to trust a link you posted here. They are all biased and riddled with factual error to support your world view. Why do you bother? You need attention that bad?

by SamHammich on 11/06/2006 03:57:00 PM EST

[ Parent ]
The New Republic (none / 0)
The New Republic is a left wing magazine.

by acroso on 11/06/2006 04:20:37 PM EST

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Pelosi quotes (none / 0)
"It's gonna be a new day!"


"Maybe It'll take a woman to clean up the house!"

by acroso on 11/06/2006 06:11:39 PM EST

Heh. (none / 0)
Cute.

by jarett on 11/06/2006 06:29:06 PM EST

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God's voter suppressions (none / 0)
God is back at it with his voter suppression techniques

Actually doesn't look too bad for Dems. What really looks bad is their poll numbers falling like a rock. There will be light raining in Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Maryland.

Montana and Tennessee look to be hit hard.

Missouri, Michigan and Arizona will be spared

I can't even see R.I. in that mix- it might get a tad though.
New Jersey might get a tad bit of rain also.

I guess it's the global warming effort somehow coming out to help the GOP.

by acroso on 11/06/2006 07:39:23 PM EST

50% rule (none / 0)
I've noticed Dems have taken a liking to the 50% rule- the idea that if incumbants do not have their polls at above 50% on the last day of polling, today, they lose.

By this measure George Allen is a gonner, Burns, Chafee, etc are all gone also. Talent is gone (just barely) and Dewhine is long gone. Santorum is gone.

so if the polls are up to date and accurate (I don't think they are) that's a +6 for dems.

O WAIT

In Michigan


DeVos was down 46%-44%; Bouchard 47%-43%, in the Mitchell poll, conducted Wednesday and Thursday last week, and Sunday night.


By this standard, Republicans have jsut won Michigan, and by a bigger margen than dems won in Montana etc.

bogus poll you say?

Ok a second was just released


Gov. Jennifer Granholm and U.S. Sen. Debbie Stabenow carry leads into Tuesday's voting, according to results from the final Detroit News/WXYZ-TV tracking poll.

Granholm led Republican challenger Dick DeVos, 49 to 42 percent -- unchanged from the previous reading on Friday. Stabenow was ahead of Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard, her Republican challenger for the U.S. Senate, 49-41, a 3-percentage point drop from her 11-point lead on Friday.


So this election by that "rule" is now in play.

What is going on in Maryland? Who knows- no one has any polls!

by acroso on 11/06/2006 11:09:09 PM EST

I remember (none / 0)

when you said Stabenow was going to lose.

Doesn't look that way now, does it? 

by jarett on 11/07/2006 01:29:12 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Stabenow (none / 0)
I think she'll win probably, but she is an incumbant and at doesn't yet have 50%.

By the 50% incumbant rule, republicans pick up Michigan if you use that rule.

I find that interesting.

by acroso on 11/07/2006 01:33:52 AM EST

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Even More Interesting (none / 0)


Stabenow did little in this campaign to point out the excellent work she's done in the Senate on behalf of police, firefighters and other first-responders, which would have given Michigan voters an even better reason to send her back. That said, she's gotten the endorsement of almost every newspaper in Michigan and leads GOP opponent Mike Bouchard by large, double-digit numbers in every recent poll and will win easily -- though not by double digits.

by SamHammich on 11/07/2006 09:53:00 AM EST

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win easily (none / 0)
Not if you apply the the 50% rule. She lacks a majority.

Using the old school 50 percent logic she's gone.

You always assume close races break republican anyway.

by acroso on 11/07/2006 02:48:23 PM EST

[ Parent ]
shoo git (none / 0)
Be gone troll, before a house drops on you

by EvaDestruction on 11/07/2006 02:57:17 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Harold Ford (none / 0)
Harold Ford is a liar.

by acroso on 11/07/2006 03:08:06 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Trolls eat thier own young (none / 0)
You seem to be laboring under the misconception that any of the  progressives tha t post here give a rats ass what you think.

by EvaDestruction on 11/07/2006 03:18:32 PM EST

[ Parent ]
About (none / 0)
what?

by jarett on 11/07/2006 04:03:59 PM EST

[ Parent ]
abortion (none / 0)
NARAL gives him around a 80/100 rating yet he goes around saying he is pro-life and campaigned against Alito. Now he's out saying he's pro-gun and is running commercials saying Corker is soft on illegal immigration- false again.

by acroso on 11/07/2006 04:10:53 PM EST

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Maybe he is pro-gun (none / 0)

Maybe the reason NARAL gives him a high rating is because he doesn't want to change the status quo, which is that abortions are legal in the first trimester.

Maybe he's like me and wants to restrict "abortion on demand" after the first trimester, and because there are some drooling psychos on the pro-choice side he gets labeled as (and accepts the label of) pro-life. 

by jarett on 11/07/2006 04:14:30 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Anti Troll (none / 0)
Get out your 64 box of crayons and go practice your lower case letters

by EvaDestruction on 11/07/2006 04:28:39 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Anti-Acroso (none / 0)
Want him to go away? ask him a question

by LORD FOUL on 11/07/2006 04:35:17 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Not Interested (none / 0)
LOL  He/she/it would be furiously checking out all his right wing pablum websites to find something to cut and paste. Its not worth it. To actually ask a question would mean Im the least bit interested in thier answer.

I don't need to hear the  both sides  honest debate bull shit either.

I don't buy into the notion that I should tolerate him/her/it in the "name of fairness". Maybe I just want to commiserate with like minded people and talk about issues brought up by the young Turks. I don't think every weblog and message board has to be "fair" actually.  This is a message board with rules that are set up by the founders of the board. A private entity. You can't walk into a theatre and yell FIRE. You can't go wilding in a mall. I say ban thier pathetic asses.

These trolls here are not interested in "debating the issues" obvioiusly. They are haters on some sort of idiotic mission to disrupt this message board and are abslouletly gagging for attention.

by EvaDestruction on 11/07/2006 04:45:29 PM EST

[ Parent ]
DU (none / 0)
You can always "tombstone" people like the DU does.

by acroso on 11/07/2006 04:47:37 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Rosco (none / 0)
How bout answering me now?

by LORD FOUL on 11/08/2006 09:18:58 AM EST

[ Parent ]
TOKYO acROSE-o (none / 0)
keep those posts coming, it's a study in human capacity for denial

by no way on 11/07/2006 08:49:22 PM EST

[ Parent ]
not in my ura-niwa (none / 0)
If he were anywhere close to Tokyo, I'd be able to smell him.

by jessejace on 11/07/2006 11:23:22 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Moooooroooon (none / 0)

by MRFred on 11/07/2006 05:01:40 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Indiana and Kentucky (none / 0)
Frist polls to close

6 Eastern is when Indiana and Kentucky close.
 

We will know whether the Democrats have taken the house when those results come in.
 

Indiana
3 of the 14 tossups from Real clear politics- IN-6,9, and 2
 

Kentucky
1 of the 14 tossups from Real clear politics - KY-3
 

There is also IN-8 and IN-7, both are in the lean Democrat column on RCP (ones soundly alrdy in the dem column)
 

The in Kentucky there is KY-4, a race in the lean GOP column that is a must winm for the GOP. If KY-4 goes then Dems may be looking at big gains tonight- I doubt that race will fall though.

 

 

 

 

 

We have to have a run in these two states if we want the house.

 

by acroso on 11/07/2006 04:45:42 PM EST

Duh.... (none / 0)

We will know whether the Democrats have taken the house when those results come in. 

Profound.....congrats dumbass:


 

by MRFred on 11/07/2006 05:14:50 PM EST

[ Parent ]
pwned lol (none / 0)

SO SOLLY CHORRIE

MAJORITY + 1 AS OF 11:42 PM

 

JOO LOOZ 

by jarett on 11/07/2006 11:40:37 PM EST

[ Parent ]
So Ken and Acroso what are the POLLS saying NOW? (none / 0)
I hear the polls are tightning and the Republicans are going to keep control of both houses.

Yes after reading all your post of the past few weeks I am now convinced that Karl Rove must have a master plan to pull everything out.

Alright everyone here comes the part were the Democrats will be accused of cheating and stealing this election so be prepared for all the links to Rightwing Whacko world from our resident koolaide drinkers.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 11/08/2006 09:40:46 AM EST

Arguing with Acroso (none / 0)

Any of you get the feeling, when arguing with acroso, that you're stuck in Monty Python's Parrot sketch? I know *I* do.

 " 'e's NOT dead! e's resting!"

by Tergenev on 11/08/2006 09:55:45 AM EST

[ Parent ]
good analogy (none / 0)
LOLgood analogy,,, I love that scetch,,,

by EvaDestruction on 11/08/2006 12:16:59 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Perhaps it's just a flesh wound (none / 0)
Black Knight: None shall pass.
Arthur: What?
Black Knight: None shall pass.
Arthur: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir Knight, but I must cross this bridge.
Black Knight: Then you shall die.
Arthur: I command you as King of the Britons to stand aside!
Black Knight: I move for no man.
Arthur: So be it!


Arthur cuts off the Black Knight's left arm.

Arthur: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
Black Knight: 'Tis but a scratch.
Arthur: A scratch? Your arm's off!
Black Knight: No, it isn't.
Arthur: Well, what's that then?
Black Knight: I've had worse.
Arthur: You liar!
Black Knight: Come on you pansy!

Arthur cuts off the Black Knight's right arm.


Arthur: Victory is mine! We thank thee Lord, that in thy mercy...


Black Knight: Come on then.
Arthur: What?
Black Knight: Have at you!
Arthur: You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
Black Knight: Oh, had enough, eh?
Arthur: Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left.
Black Knight: Yes I have.
Arthur: Look!
Black Knight: Just a flesh wound.
Arthur: Look, stop that.
Black Knight: Chicken! Chicken!
Arthur: Look, I'll have your leg. Right!

Arthur cuts off the Black Knight's leg.

Black Knight: Right, I'll do you for that!
Arthur: You'll what?
Black Knight: Come 'ere!
Arthur: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
Black Knight: I'm invincible!
Arthur: You're a loony.
Black Knight: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on then.

Arthur cuts off the Black Knight's other leg.


Black Knight: All right; we'll call it a draw.
Arthur: Come, Patsy.
Black Knight: Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bastard! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 11/08/2006 10:06:10 AM EST

Troll Slap Down (none / 0)

Gee, I guess all the trolls have fallen silent...soooo Its a good time to review the combined wisdom of TYT trolldom on the midterm elections....

<The TYT troll political analysts

______________________  ; ;

GOP holds senate big time Prediction- 53 GOP, 46 libs and Lieberman.  

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Republicans will lose Santorum, DeWhine, and Chafee-3 seats

Of the previous three they will win at least 1, and I never mentioned Bouchard who could also win as a 4th opportunity.

We're looking at losing a couple seats at most. Chafee, Dewhine, and Frist are not the most reliable republicans  and not the worst losses anyway

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Looks like Menedez is going down also as Sabato hints.

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So what will happen in 2006? Since early in the year, I maintained that the over/under for Democrat gains was 20 House seats and 4 Senate seats. At this late
date, I see no reason to change the prediction.

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47-47 Burns tied and surging  It’s the trend that is important. The previous poll I saw was 46-43. The independents are breaking heavily GOP and Tester is stuck with the not-so-silent and outspoken minority.

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Hmmm I think I see a trend developing here! ( predicting a Burns win in Montana)

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I saw one site claim the GOP was -5 in 94.
Another site had them at -3.4 in 94
That resulted in a 50-60 seat loss

So if we anywhere near -6 and trending positive, I think the GOP is set this election

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Kook Political Report
House: Dems gain 20-35 seats
Senate: Dems gain 4-6 seats

Rottenberg Political Report:
House: Dems gain 34-40 seats
Senate: Dems gain 5-7 seats

Evans
Novak Report:
House: Dems gain 20 seats
Senate: Dems gain 5 seats

I don't believe them!

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GOP CAMPAIGNS MAKING IMPACT. Another significant reason for Republican gains can be found in the GOP’s 72-hour get out the vote program which is now in full swing. This poll showed that Republicans have made a greater impact than Democrats with TV ads (+6), mailings (+6), and phone calls (+6).

ANDLING OF ISSUES. A big reason for Republican gains is that trust on key issues has increased over the past few weeks. Built on recent good economic news, Republicans handling on the economy has improved a net-9 points from a week ago. Republicans have also seen significant gains on handling of taxes (+7), Iraq (+7) and national security (+4).

 Well at least Carville has a good losing attitude and a sense of humor

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But tomorrow there will be one for senator Steele!

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"We will retain controll of both house of Congress...I have polls that you do not..." Rove to NPR

Recently, Bush dismissed the possibility that Pelosi could become speaker of the House, saying in an interview "That's not going to happen."

 


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Crow Eating Department:

Democrats picked up at least 28 seats; they needed 15 to capture a majority in the House. (Latest House news)

Democrats retained two of their Senate seats that were considered competitive, in New Jersey and Maryland.

Defying the traditional political maxim that "all politics is local," 62 percent of voters said in exit polls that national issues mattered more than local issues.

 "Democrats shifted the balance of power on Capitol Hill Tuesday night, capturing control of the U.S. House of Representatives and gaining ground in the Senate," declared the conservative Fox News channel -- the first network to call the presidency for Bush in 2000. Fox was behind CNN and NBC in calling the House for Democrats.

Bush thanks House Speaker Hastert; congratulates Speaker-to-be Pelosi

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Sour Grapes Department

Tom DeLay: "Democrats didn't win, the Republicans lost"

by MRFred on 11/08/2006 11:37:16 AM EST

One More (none / 0)
"You don't get it. These polls are wrong. Republicans WILL come out and vote. Democrats will sleep in. We're already seeing it happening in Florida-13, Katherine Harris's old seat that realclearpolitics has been listing as one of the 18 tossups.

Not only do the Dems lack a good turnout program, but its base itself is a very undetermined group.


I’ll be sure and tell you all the reason why I think you lost after Tuesday."

by MRFred on 11/08/2006 03:15:30 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Yuck Yuck Yuck (none / 0)

The troll said: "Last point the pollsters were wrong about how independents broke in 2004 and  I have little faith in the results they put out other than indicating general trends."

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The reality is: 

"They're independents. They are like a third sex. Who needs them? But in fact is this year they really had their revenge. Independents voted almost 60 percent for the Democrats. We haven't seen that since exit polling began about 30 years ago. This was swing voters swinging hard.  Bill Schneider, CNN."

 

Other great predictions 

 

http://nextstuff.info/images/nexthalo2.gif

 

 

 :)

by MRFred on 11/08/2006 03:43:32 PM EST

[ Parent ]
too much! (none / 0)
I think you are having too much fun, keep 'em coming. I think we are seeing the backside of Right wing Hubris. They made their own bed.

by no way on 11/08/2006 03:50:36 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Hey, NeXT didn't die (none / 0)

it just became the new Apple :)

Just about all of the technologies from NeXTSTEP found their way into OSX.  Some of it is direct source ports, even. 

by jarett on 11/08/2006 06:39:22 PM EST

[ Parent ]
poor K fed (none / 0)
 I see K feds pic there and it reminded me that I saw K fed getting dumped by Britney on his blackberry .. he was filming an episode of exposed and she texted  him on his blackberry that she was divorcing him.  Talk about reality tv lol


by EvaDestruction on 11/09/2006 10:02:15 AM EST

[ Parent ]
No kidding (none / 0)

What a bitch...at least she could have waited for his CD and tour to fade away gracefully...now he has a tanking tour, and his meal ticket dumps him on TV. Might as well paint a  big(ger) L on his forehead.

Actually both are pretty pathetic. The real question is what will BS do for publicity now...marry Micheal Jackson...yeesh!

by MRFred on 11/09/2006 01:43:21 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Bipartisan war effort (none / 0)
We need to move to a Bipartisan war effort now that there is a Dem senate\House and Bush.

Get the whole country behind U.S. victory.

by acroso on 11/08/2006 06:45:23 PM EST

Ashes (none / 0)
Hey troll in the spirit of bipartisanship

ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED YOU THIS WEEK

by LORD FOUL on 11/08/2006 07:22:37 PM EST

[ Parent ]
"U.S. Victory" (none / 0)
No one has ever clarified what "victory" means.  Define clearly what the goals are -- now that you HAVE to and cannot rely on jingoism to do whatever you want, then stamp it with the brand of "U.S. Victory In Iraq" -- and then we can start discussing bipartisan measures to accomplish it.

by jarett on 11/08/2006 07:28:21 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Militant Islamo fascists (none / 0)
Militant Islamo fascists are celebrating surely today now the Dems have divided the country.



by acroso on 11/09/2006 02:22:16 AM EST

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On the contrary (none / 0)
The country has now united behind the Democrats.  That much is clear.

by jarett on 11/09/2006 02:31:43 AM EST

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contrary contrarian (none / 0)
"The country has now united behind the Democrats.  That much is clear."

The Senate is 51% Dem. The House is 53% Dem.

I wouldn't say the country has united behind anything.

We are in for two years of fighting, and not much else.

by KenTX on 11/09/2006 06:40:34 AM EST

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I don't agree (none / 0)

We'll get shit done.  Pelosi's 100 Hour Plan will get out there and America will highly approve of it.

We'll also introduce a little accountability.  The 110th Congress will investigate the 109th Congress and the Presidency.

I believe you're wrong, and we'll both be pleasantly surprised by how much positive change happens. 

by jarett on 11/09/2006 06:42:54 AM EST

[ Parent ]
ready to rumble (none / 1)
"We'll get shit done."  

"The 110th Congress will investigate the 109th Congress and the Presidency."

Let's examine these two statements, side-by-side. Then, let's remember that 40 Senators can block any proposed bill from moving forward with a filibuster. (The GOP has 49 Senators.) Let's also remember that President Bush can veto any Dem legislation.


Congressional investigations? Bring it on! That is the only thing that will happen in Congress over the next two years. And who will the American people blame for in November 2008?


We are ready for a fight! And KenTX is in the fukkin house!


by KenTX on 11/09/2006 06:49:28 AM EST

[ Parent ]
</TROLL> (none / 0)
</TROLL>

by EvaDestruction on 11/09/2006 07:13:28 AM EST

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They won't block bipartisan legislation (none / 0)
The Democrats will actually PROPOSE things that are acceptable to both sides, unlike the Republicans.  This is why we will not have a repeat of the 109th do-nothing Congress.

by jarett on 11/09/2006 08:06:20 AM EST

[ Parent ]
let's hear it (none / 0)
"The Democrats will actually PROPOSE things that are acceptable to both sides, unlike the Republicans." 

Let's hear your list of Democrat proposals that will be acceptable to Republicans. Remember, we have both the Veto and the Filibuster, and we're not afraid to use them.

by KenTX on 11/09/2006 08:49:54 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Well, let's see (none / 0)

http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/content/article/2 006/10/06/AR2006100600056.h tml

Day One: Put new rules in place to "break the link between lobbyists and legislation."

Surely you have no problem with this. 

Day Two: Enact all the recommendations made by the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Or this. 

Time remaining until 100 hours: Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients.

You probably bristle at the thought of raising the minimum wage.  Tough to argue AGAINST student loans and old people, though. 

Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds _ "I hope with a veto-proof majority," she added in an Associated Press interview Thursday.

As you are pro-death, I'm sure you have no problem with this either. 

All the days after that: "Pay as you go," meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority.

::cheers from both sides of the aisle:: 

To do that, she said, Bush-era tax cuts would have to be rolled back for those above "a certain level." She mentioned annual incomes of $250,000 or $300,000 a year and higher, and said tax rates for those individuals might revert to those of the Clinton era. Details will have to be worked out, she emphasized.

I know you're not THIS rich.  We engineers are comfortable, but not that comfortable. 

"We believe in the marketplace," Pelosi said of Democrats, then drew a contrast with Republicans. "They have only rewarded wealth, not work.

Yeah, pretty much spot-on, although that's not part of her agenda. 

by jarett on 11/09/2006 09:57:47 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Enough Rope (none / 0)
I can say i'm just a little bit worried that the Democrats just won them selves enough rope to hang themselves in 2008.  The republicans also helped set the stage by repeating that the democrats want to raise taxes throughout the election cycle.  Now that the have the power, that is most likely what they will do. 

We all know that the republicans have been terribly irresponsible for the past 6 years with the budget by cutting taxes and increasing spending.  This process has to be reversed.  The problem is voters care a whole lot less about fiscal responsibility than they do about taxes (look at the personal finances of the average american).  If the Democrats save us from this dangerous problem the public will not reward them for responsibilty, they will punish them for cutting benifits or raising taxes.  

I propose that instead of raising taxes, we leave things alone and start a dangerous game of chicken with the republicans.  They are the ones who are supposed to be for fiscal responsibility arn't they?  Make them make the first move so they can't nail us with it in the next election cycle.  Just a thought. 

by alphasigmookie on 11/09/2006 11:55:21 AM EST

[ Parent ]
how to balance the budget (none / 1)
"I propose that instead of raising taxes, we leave things alone and start a dangerous game of chicken with the republicans."

You can't raise taxes. The GOP filibuster and veto will never allow it.

If you want to balance the budget, your only option is to cut spending. I guarantee Republicans will support Democrats if they start talking about budget cuts.

by KenTX on 11/09/2006 07:12:00 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Sounds good to me (none / 1)
I am totally willing to shake hands with Republicans on this score.

by jarett on 11/09/2006 07:18:13 PM EST

[ Parent ]
how to get rich slowly (none / 1)
"I know you're not THIS rich.  We engineers are comfortable, but not that comfortable."

Jarett, here is some advice for you and Mookie. Go into sales and marketing. When you combine an engineering background with a sales/marketing career, you can make big bank.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to marry a woman with land, cattle, and oil. 

by KenTX on 11/09/2006 07:21:12 PM EST

[ Parent ]
should have gone for money (none / 0)
Damn I should have found me a rich girl, instead I settling on smart and big tits. 

by alphasigmookie on 11/09/2006 07:27:22 PM EST

[ Parent ]
never too late (none / 1)
"Damn I should have found me a rich girl, instead I settling on smart and big tits."

John Kerry did it three times.

by KenTX on 11/09/2006 07:33:08 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Envy (none / 0)
Just remember

Marriage is the leading cause of divorce

Temptation has a number 38:24:38

Foul: 3:69

by LORD FOUL on 11/09/2006 11:47:56 PM EST

[ Parent ]
I've been thinking about it, actually (none / 0)
Speaking of smart and well-endowed, a girl from the MBA school here that I've had my eye on has me thinking about getting my MS and then getting my MBA afterward.

by jarett on 11/09/2006 07:45:24 PM EST

[ Parent ]
The Senate is 51% Dem. The House is 53% Dem (none / 0)
f**ktard claimed a mandate with a lot less in the 2004 election.  or perhaps only neocons are allowed to have mandates because their vision for the country is so f'ing pure.

by thbbbt on 11/09/2006 06:46:46 AM EST

[ Parent ]
thbbbbt (none / 0)
You don't have a mandate. Libs have already stated these machines are rigged. We can't trust the results.

by acroso on 11/09/2006 06:49:50 AM EST

[ Parent ]
illegals (none / 0)
That and of course the illegals voting in all 50 states and expecially heavy in New Mexico.

Richardson himself may how some of his victories to foreign nationalists.

by acroso on 11/09/2006 06:51:21 AM EST

[ Parent ]
new rulez (none / 0)
bush steals an election = rethuglican mandate and political capital

voice of the people is heard at the polls = victory for the terrorists.

i got it now.  thanks.

by thbbbt on 11/09/2006 07:01:56 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Al Qaeda (none / 0)
Al Qaeda even before the election had many declarations in support of Democratic victories.

They want to win the war in Iraq.

by acroso on 11/09/2006 07:03:44 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Al Qaeda (none / 0)
at least somebody wants to win.

by thbbbt on 11/09/2006 07:09:10 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Did Bush have a mandate in '04? (none / 0)
Well?

by jarett on 11/09/2006 08:06:57 AM EST

[ Parent ]
of course (none / 0)
of course

by acroso on 11/09/2006 08:08:57 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Then the Dems have a mandate now (none / 0)
with a MUCH larger margin than he ever had.

by jarett on 11/09/2006 08:21:12 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Still in control (none / 0)
Repugs lost control of the gov are they still in control of fox news? :)

by EvaDestruction on 11/09/2006 09:56:02 AM EST

[ Parent ]
2012 battke lines (none / 0)
You know in 2012, there will 9 senate Republicans up for reelection and there will be 24 senate Democrats.

!!!

Anyone besides me ponder this yet?

by acroso on 11/09/2006 05:37:11 PM EST

2008 (none / 0)
In 2008 the case is the opposite
12 Dems
21 Republicans

With the Dems- They won 5 or so too close to calls in 2000, then in 2006 they ran the table. Because of that, we're going to have a lobsided 2012.

by acroso on 11/09/2006 05:40:46 PM EST

[ Parent ]
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