The New Terrorism

A music video linking the scare tactics the Bush administration uses in pushing the terrorist threat to the scare tactics used in the McCarthy era in pushing the communist threat. Fear as an excuse to grab additional powers over the citizens. The power to blacklist, the power to ruin, the power to listen in on your phone conversations, the power to detain you without evidence indefinitely. They move one step closer, always one step closer until before you realize it's too late to do anything about it. The threat of tyranny has become tyranny itself.

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I just want all americans to wake up to what is happening in our country. Our freedoms are being taken away by our own government. We've lost far more freedom due to legislation by the current administration than by any act committed by terrorists against this nation and that includes 9/11. I believe there is a terrorist threat but the question is to what extent do we as a nation devote our time and attention and resources and lives to protect against this threat. All, most or the proportional measures that would ensure our security to as great a degree as is possible in a free society. The USA is the most powerful nation in relation to the entire rest of the world than any nation has ever been. No Bill O'Reilly the Roman Empire did not have a greater military superiority than America now enjoys. We are King of the Mountain in the Nuclear Arms Race. So the question is,
Why are we so afraid?

by BluePrintsRecords on 11/04/2006 05:55:16 PM EST

Tolerance will not defeat terrorism

 

by acroso on 11/04/2006 06:38:57 PM EST

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What will ultimately defeat terrorism is a thorough, completist, merciless social engineering campaign to change the cultures of the people who commit terrorist acts (assuming we are talking about Islamist terrorism).

by jarett on 11/04/2006 08:15:31 PM EST

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That sounds like something Hitler would say.

McVie was a Christian and a terrorist

Bin Laden was an Islamist and a terrorist

Fact is there are terrorists in every form of belief and non belief

by LORD FOUL on 11/04/2006 08:28:51 PM EST

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I AM STILL WAITING

by LORD FOUL on 11/04/2006 08:29:40 PM EST

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Neither will invading Iraq

by SamHammich on 11/04/2006 09:48:48 PM EST

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We are afraid because the Pubs peddle fear like candy, anything to get elected.

Some morons can't seem to figure out that you can't "defeat" terrorism, terrorism is a tactic not an enemy.

Some morons can't figure out that we won the "War" or that we are losing the "occupation".

Bad intel is the excuse but we know that Bush I was warned about a "quagmire" back in the First Gulf war.

We know that war games in 1999 showed the same senario we are in now estimating that we would need "at least" 400,000 troops to keep the peace.

In fact "our" intelligence warned this adminstration about the lack of an Al-Qeada connection, the lack of WMD and the insurgency. Bush and Co. chose to listen to Iraqi exiles, instead of loyal Americans.

Like the troll that he is he did not take responsibility, he blamed the intel agencies and when the agencies responded with documents proving Bushs' culpability they were accused of "partisanship".

Bush betrayed this country and its troops. They won't be satisfied until we live in a facsist state.

by LORD FOUL on 11/04/2006 08:07:39 PM EST

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How can you be so sure tolerance won't help solve the terrorist problem. Perhaps a mix of solid defense, appropriate response and tolerance is in order. 9/11 happened and there were any number of responses the Bush Administration could have made. Anyone who wants to believe that because they responded the way they did that somehow makes it the best response or the proper response or even a good response. It is time for us to stop pretending that the starting of the Iraq war was in any way a good idea. It was not. True, you can argue anything; but there are positions that cannot be argued effectively or persuasively because their initial premise was incorrect. If your initial premise is a fallacy then it follows everything that all subsequent arguments stemming from that premis are also incorrect. This is the first rule of logic.

 The starting of the Iraq war is one such position. The initial premise was that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Now denying this does not make it any less so.  Virtually the whole world knows we got it wrong. 

We could learn a lesson from the Amish. They still had room in their hearts for forgiveness even to one who had done them great harm, This nation would have been well served to show more tolerance and patience after 9/11.  Who would insult those who suffered most directly from the deaths on 9/11? The reason 9/11 was a tragedy was because children lost their fathers and wive's lost their husbands and parents lost their children. The pain felt by those people was the pain we all felt. That is why we cried on 9/11. It was enough to imagine losing those closest to us that caused us to grieve. How much more for those who actually will never again see the people in their lives who meant most to them. Yet some of the wives were attacked as opportunists! It was suggested that some of their marriages were on the skids. How awful we have become attacking our own. Yes I believe tolerance can help overcome terrorism in its' many forms.

by BluePrintsRecords on 11/04/2006 10:33:55 PM EST

Tolerance sure worked against the Nazis.


Seems to be working for the French right now. There liberals there sold them on new immigration quotes by literally saying these immigrants will do the jobs Frenchmen won’t do.

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by acroso on 11/04/2006 11:12:12 PM EST

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Do we have to go straight to the Nazis? The Nazis were taking over Europe country by country. The Nazis killed millions. The Nazis occupied Paris! We're not dealing with Nazis. Though I suspect we'd be well advised to figure out who we are dealing with. There are two sides to everything.

by BluePrintsRecords on 11/04/2006 11:29:56 PM EST

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What do you care what France does when bush is saying exactly the same thing here?

by SamHammich on 11/04/2006 11:36:15 PM EST

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