Where are the Mass Graves?

As I watched nonstop coverage of Saddam's Death Watch, I was told over and over that this was a heinous mass murderer. There were mass graves. That up to 300,000 people were killed during his reign.

Then they told us what he was actually convicted for -- 148 dead in Dujail. That's a terrible crime. But there's at least that amount of people killed every two days in Iraq now.

Now, I looked into the mass grave claims and the US government found graves that contained hundreds of bodies in some places. And prosecutors claimed that Saddam gassed 5,000 Kurds in Northern Iraq.

This hardly adds up to 300,000 killed. I am not saying that he didn't kill that many, I just don't know why we didn't do our homework and convict him all of his crimes. As Robert Jackson, the lead prosecutor in the Nuremberg trials famously said, "We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow."

We need history on our side on this one. Remember we invaded the whole country and turned it upside down because Saddam was such a bad guy. It would have been nice to prove how bad. I don't know why the trial seemed so rushed and third rate. Actually, I do know why. It's because Iraq is a complete mess and this whole fiasco is being run by the same incompetents who have screwed everything else up.

Please spare me the nonsense about how the Iraqis are a sovereign government and they were running the trial and we had nothing to do with it. Saddam did cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of people when he started a war with Iran. That didn't get brought up much in the trial.

I am sure the fact that United States supported him in that war and Don Rumsfeld sold him weapons to use in that war was not a factor at all as to why that was not emphasized in his trial ... run by the Iraqis. Remember starting a war of aggression is the highest war crime. And Saddam clearly started one with Iran, let alone Kuwait. But then we're not in a very good position to talk about wars of aggression anymore.

The hotel I'm staying at today only has Fox News Channel (Dick Cheney must stay here when he's in town). So, first I was subjected to the inane chatter of Sean Hannity claiming this might turn things around in Iraq. That our troops were very happy about the execution of Saddam and that it was really going to help their morale. The Vulcan mind meld he did with them must have proved this.

As usual, there were two lackey former colonels on the air to parrot everything Hannity said right back at him, "Yes Sean, our troops our ecstatic that this man will be hung. Yes, things are probably going to get much better now."

Then Greta had one of Saddam's lawyers on, and he clobbered her. She said that Saddam had been convicted of killing the 148 people in Dujail and prosecutors had information about another 5,000 Kurds killed. First, he said some completely unconvincing nonsense about how some of the dead people in Dujail were still alive. But then he made a fair point that Saddam was never convicted of the crimes against the Kurds and that now we would never truly know.

When Greta said those are some tremendous numbers referring again to the two incidents of 148 and 5,000 killed, the lawyer responded that those numbers were not nearly as tremendous as the 750,000 Iraqis killed since the US invasion. Ouch.

It sucks to get outdueled by Saddam's lawyer. But the man has a point. As we all know, and have repeated ad nauseam, Saddam was a really bad guy and a dictator that killed many people. But I don't see where the 300,000 number came from and I'm pissed they never proved it. And that still doesn't match up to how many Iraqis have been killed in just the three and half years of the Iraq War.

We didn't kill all those people and our objective is not to oppress the Iraqi people for our own gain (well, not exactly at least; though their oil is yummy for our cars' tummy). But Saddam was executed for killing a 148 people. And our invasion has cost the lives of at least several hundred thousand people that otherwise would not have died.

I'm not drawing any conclusions and I'm not even making any inferences. I'm just saying it's something to be pondered.

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Whoa Cenk, calm down! I realize you’re not happy about Saddam being hanged, but with time, you’ll get over it. Consider it just a bad day for liberalism in America, then moveon.org.

“As I watched nonstop coverage of Saddam's Death Watch, I was told over and over that this was a heinous mass murderer. There were mass graves. That up to 300,000 people were killed during his reign.”

You know, that’s exactly how I felt as I watched the trial of Slobidan Milosevic. I thought this invasion of Kosovo by American military forces must have been about something more than Monica Lewinski.

“Now, I looked into the mass grave claims and the US government found graves that contained hundreds of bodies in some places. And prosecutors claimed that Saddam gassed 5,000 Kurds in Northern Iraq.”

I’m not sure how well you looked into it?

Did you read the New York Times?

Did you read the Washington Post?

Did you read CNN?

Did you read the BBC? They found lots of little, tiny baby bones!

“We need history on our side on this one. Remember we invaded the whole country and turned it upside down because Saddam was such a bad guy. It would have been nice to prove how bad. I don't know why the trial seemed so rushed and third rate.”

Man, that’s EXACTLY how I felt about the trial of Slobidan Milosevic! There have been teams of forensic researchers combing Bosnia and Serbia for many years, looking for signs of mass graves.

So far, they have had difficulty finding many bodies. In fact, there is not much evidence of civilian casualties.

LET'S EMPHASIZE
that researchers did find several graves of Croation men who were killed during the military conflict between the two countries. But that’s something altogether different from Bill Clinton’s claims of ethnic cleansing.

In the final analysis, there are differences between Slobidan Milosevic and Saddam Hussein. One guy was a tyrant, who killed hundreds of thousands of people, and was ultimately convicted and hanged by a legitimate legal system of his own countrymen. The other guy was unlucky enough to have been the president of his country while Bill Clinton was getting a blowjob.

by KenTX on 12/31/2006 02:22:45 AM EST

 

 

The other guy was unlucky enough to have been the president of his country while Bill Clinton was getting a blowjob.

 

I guess Monica went down on Tony Blair ...

Blair: We'll fight to the end

and the NATO ministers

 Nato: 'Ethnic cleansing spreading'


"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 12/31/2006 03:06:14 PM EST

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I realize you're not happy about Saddam being hanged

Don't be absurd.

by jarett on 12/31/2006 05:09:58 PM EST

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They're celebrating in Iraq.

They're celebrating in Detroit.

But there's no joy in LiberalLand or Mudville tonight!
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by KenTX on 12/31/2006 07:51:06 PM EST

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they get to vote!
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by KenTX on 12/31/2006 08:17:25 PM EST

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US MILITARY DEATHS HIT 3,000…


"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 12/31/2006 08:30:49 PM EST

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I am sure the families of the dead will appreciate your wisdom since it is so reverently stated. Not that it matters but I take a dim view of sarcasm in relation to combat deaths...regardless how great the historical losses are in comparison.

 Wow 3000 American deaths in three to four years of fighting Islamofacists on their home turf? Why that almost rivals some of these previous historical losses that our citizens and soldiers have endured

What validity of a comparison to Gettysburg,Stalingrad or The Punic War Battle of Cannae or any large battle has to Iraq is beyond me. If it helps you rationalise what a complete waste this fiasco has been...fine. 

So, that said , what exactly is your point?

BTW your link is bad.

 

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 12/31/2006 10:33:22 PM EST

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More like "accurate representation of your attitude". Ken *cough* sorry, 'BytchBang's tone here probably represents the most honest he's ever been in his entire life.

Bush Republicans feel nothing but contempt for the military. It's not their ass out there, so why should they give a shit? Ken has his stocks to worry about.  That's why Clinton's war, which produced zero US casualties, is worse than Bush's - because Clinton hurt Ken's portfolio.

These are the kids that used to break other kids' toy soldiers in school, and now they're having just as much fun destroying real soldiers - other people's kids - in the real world.

Bush Republicans are scum.

(Now watch them call he 'hate-filled' and 'partisan' - which reminds me, Bush Republicans are also WHINING PUSSIES.) 

 

by kiki on 01/05/2007 03:02:46 PM EST

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Wow 3000 American deaths in three to four years of fighting Islamofacists on their home turf? Why that almost rivals some of these previous historical losses that our citizens and soldiers have endured.

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"David Donica, Spc Donica's father, said he only learned that his son's death was the 3,000th for the American military in Iraq when he logged onto the internet shortly after becoming mystified by a growing pack of reporters who had come to the family's home.

"We had no idea why we were getting, within an hour almost, eight or nine people at the door," he said yesterday.

"That was a surprise to us because none of them mentioned why they were there. Perhaps, they were embarrassed. One guy was standing there shaking like a leaf."

Mr Donica added, in a written statement issued to the media, that he was proud of his son. "Dustin had a tremendous sense of duty, both to his family, and his country. He will be missed by his family, and all those that knew him," he said.

The American public was given a  glimpse of the young man behind the tragic statistic when it was revealed that Spc Donica kept a MySpace.com website. Known as "Double D" to his friends, he talked about his future plans, his likes and dislikes. "I like to play a lot of sports — soccer, basketball, racquetball and ultimate frisbee are my favorites," he wrote. The young soldier last logged on to the website the day after Christmas.

By last weekend, friends were filling Spc Donica's MySpace site with notes of condolence. "Always in my prayers brother, see you at the gates," read a message from Chris Donaton, who said he served with Spc Donica in Alaska.

"It's just so shocking. You hear these [combat death] statistics but once you put a human face on it, it completely changes the way you feel," said Jon Baben, who was president of Spc Donica's 2002 high school class. "He was always so energetic and an unbreakable spirit."

Washington Post 

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 01/01/2007 11:03:41 AM EST

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I wonder if he was added to the official daily toll?

Will you be feeling the same when Bush and Cheney are in dockets trying to explain away their war crimes?

I didn't think so...

by MedfordTim on 12/31/2006 09:15:44 PM EST

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“Will you be feeling the same when Bush and Cheney are in dockets trying to explain away their war crimes?”

Remember that famous Harry Truman quote?
“The luckiest thing that ever happened to me was the 80th Congress.”

He was explaining that his reelection in 1948 was a direct result of the GOP-controlled Congress overplaying their hand.

I want the Democrats to come out and show America who they really are:

  1. Defund the war in the Middle East.
  2. Pass HillaryCare socialized medicine.
  3. Impeach Bush.
  4. Increase taxes across-the-board.
  5. Increase federal spending across-the-board.
  6. Filibuster judicial appointments.
  7. Pass the Terrorist Bill of Rights.
  8. Close Gitmo.
  9. Open the borders wide.
  10. Surrender to al Qaeda.

by KenTX on 12/31/2006 10:11:37 PM EST

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 I want the Democrats to come out and show America who they really are

Ok...Republicans have already shown who they are:

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 12/31/2006 10:40:07 PM EST

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"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 12/31/2006 10:54:02 PM EST

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Who will be indicted first?

Wm Jefferson, Democrat LA
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by KenTX on 12/31/2006 11:33:30 PM EST

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"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 01/01/2007 12:01:19 AM EST

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I'm not interested in talking about Democrat corruption history like Dan Rostenkowski, Richard Daley, Boss Tweed, Tammany Hall. But if you want a long list, I'll provide it for you.

The important thing is the hypocrisy in today's Democrat Party. After Harry Reid is indicted for Abramoff crimes, this photo will be priceless.
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by KenTX on 01/01/2007 03:38:51 AM EST

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The Abramoff axe will cut a wide swath once real investigations begin. The most assuredly not be the sham that the Republicans presided over.

 

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 01/01/2007 10:37:58 AM EST

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That guy in Fred's post is wearing a tie which is a crime against humanity.

by jarett on 01/01/2007 11:29:23 AM EST

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Remember if the Republicans hadn't spent over $60 million of the American peoples hard earned tax dollars investigating a land deal that the Clinton's lost money on we would never have discovered the awful truth that Bill Clinton received a blow job.

Now I know many of you would say, but Hubble 60 million is a lot of money that could have been used on other things like children's immunization, or prenatal care for pregnant women, but you must remember, the cons don't care about the health of children before or after they are born they just want to insure women are forced to have them.

The most important thing was to dig, and dig, and dig, and dig and dig, and dig, UNTIL Kenny Starr could come to the leaders of the Republican party and say in dramatic fashion "Ladies and gentlemen....We got him."

 

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 01/01/2007 11:55:05 AM EST

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Ol' "money bags"  Ken got screwed in Whitewater...that explains it! That explains why no matter what the subject, no matter how trivial a point, we always get a Clinton tirade. For example

Subject : The earth will be destroyed by a comet.

KenTx responses( in order)

  • Clinton responsible for failure to track said comet...blah blah blah..raise taxes!
  • If Clinton wasnt busy getting a blow job...blah blah blah... track said comet...al Queda!
  • Compare and contrast..comet...blowjob.. .Clinton.
  • You know if we wernt spending so much money on the worthless lazy federal goverment that expanded under Clinton...blah blah blah Clinton blah blah blah...lard ass....blow job
  • We should have privatized comet tracking. Private comet trackers could have warned us...stained blue dress...Clinton. Million dollar haircut!
  • See the tax cuts are working, more comets!
  • The unions wouldn't allow comet tracking in the north so we had to move the Comet tracking  to Mexico....empty library...Clintons NAFTA deal was responsible...Juanita Brodderick...blow job
  • Our involvement in Kosov....Clinton killed all the comet trackers.... Everyone knows the best comet trackers come from the Balkans...blah blah Saddam Hussein was much worse than Slobidan Milosevic...blah blah blah... Clinton...blue dress!
  • If Clinton hadn't of killed Vince Foster....blah blah blah... Comet..blah blah blah...blue dress.
  • Hubble is Chelsea's daddy..blah blah blah.God sent the Comet to punish him...blah Clinton!blah blah...ugly how could she be so ugly .....blah blah blah...liberals!
  • Ive seen the Clinton Library..its a double wide trailer...empty...blue dress..comet...Clinton!
  • The phoney dot com economy..blah blah blah..blue dress...comet...liberals! Bush ( choir singing)...blah blah blah...tax cut...Clinton getting a blow job...!
  • The Democrats will surrender to the comet...if Clinton hadn't of...blah blah blah..blue dress,blah blah blah double wide trailerblah blah blah comet full of terrorist...if Clinton wasnt getting a blow job we could have... blah blah blah...Clinton!
  • Barak Obama....blah blah blahc omet..blah blah blah...Hillary Clinton! marriage...blah blah blah ...sham...Blow Job!
  • Sock puppet Sock puppet!
See it's easy to be a " conservative! "

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 01/01/2007 02:11:30 PM EST

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"Ken got screwed in Whitewater...that explains it! That explains why no matter what the subject, no matter how trivial a point, we always get a Clinton tirade."

Mr Fred is smarter than I realized. He's going to make a good investigator.

In 1993, Bill Clinton and a Democrat-controlled congress passed a huge retroactive tax increase that hit me in the wallet.

Ten years later, George Bush and a Republican-controlled congress passed a huge multi-year tax cut that helped my wallet and the American economy.

The terrorist attack on 9/11 hurt my investment portfolio. Subsequent reports have proven that the Clinton Administration was ineffective and out to lunch in the war against al Qaeda.
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by KenTX on 01/01/2007 09:56:58 PM EST

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"In 1993, Bill Clinton and a Democrat-controlled congress passed a huge retroactive tax increase that hit me in the wallet."

And, lest we forget, he later had an affair that hit all you Republicans in the ego.  Wallet, ego:  A one-two punch from which there is apparently no recovery.

by OneHitKill on 01/03/2007 06:29:36 AM EST

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"And, lest we forget, he later had an affair that hit all you Republicans in the ego.  Wallet, ego:  A one-two punch from which there is apparently no recovery."

Man, the dialogue, the content, the style, it sounds so familiar!

Oh yeah!

by KenTX on 01/03/2007 06:37:00 AM EST

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Nope.  I'm not him.  There is no way the truth of who I am can fulfill your wild expectations.  I'd apologize for leading you on, but you seem to like the abuse.  (Speaking of leading you on, I sure hope you don't turn out to be a 16-year-old girl...that would add a whole new level of weirdness to our repartee.)

by OneHitKill on 01/03/2007 09:03:43 AM EST

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"I sure hope you don't turn out to be a 16-year-old girl"


Chris Hansen will be visiting you soon.
uh oh

by KenTX on 01/03/2007 02:35:10 PM EST

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You guys are weirding me out here...

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 01/03/2007 07:52:18 PM EST

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north, west, south, and east of Baghdad

by mattinohio on 12/31/2006 08:58:23 AM EST

Bush1 > Rumsfeld & boss Searl Pharm Co > Hi Saddam! Smile for camera Donald.
Graves Known Large carefully Gaurded
0 Autopsies > 0 incrimination > decades pass > 0 trace chemical attacks condoned/provided by . . USA. Daddy when president. 
Dirty dirty secrets from Bush family legacy.

 

by GAatheist on 12/31/2006 09:29:25 AM EST

Since the Saddam Hussein regime was overthrown in May, 270 mass graves have been reported. By mid-January, 2004, the number of confirmed sites climbed to fifty-three. Some graves hold a few dozen bodies--their arms lashed together and the bullet holes in the backs of skulls testimony to their execution. Other graves go on for hundreds of meters, densely packed with thousands of bodies. [USAID]

Human Rights Watch on Chemical Ali:

When Kurdish leaders met with Iraqi government officials in the wake of the spring 1991 uprising, they raised the question of the Anfal dead and mentioned a figure of 182,000--a rough extrapolation based on the number of destroyed villages. Ali Hassan al-Majid reportedly jumped to his feet in a rage when the discussion took this turn. "What is this exaggerated figure of 182,000?" he is said to have asked. "It couldn't have been more than 100,000" -- as if this somehow mitigated the catastrophe that he and his subordinates had visited on the Iraqi Kurds.

[. . .]

Al-Majid appears almost defensive in talking about the Anfal operation with unnamed Northern Bureau officials in January 1989. "How were we supposed to convince them to solve the Kurdish problem and slaughter the saboteurs?" he asks them, alluding to the misgivings of senior military officers about the Anfal operation. In addition, he adds, what was to be done with so many captured civilians? "Am I supposed to keep them in good shape?" al-Majid asks. "What am I supposed to do with them, these goats? ...[T]ake good care of them? No, I will bury them with bulldozers." And that is what he did. [Human Rights Watch]

by Twba on 01/02/2007 07:47:08 AM EST

I find it interesting that so many dickwad Republicans hang out on this comment board posting lies. Why do they expend so much effort? And to remind the nut gallery who insist on commenting where they are not worthy to do so . . .Clinton has been out of office for SIX YEARS! GET THE HELL OVER IT!

Cenk, as for your comments, I personally think that bickering over exactly how many Saddam killed and how many we are killing is all a pointless waste of debate. I'm glad he was convicted of something and I'm glad he's dead. It certainly brings us no closer to a solution to this morrass.

All of these points are moot . . .the simple fact is that WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD THIS OCCUPATION.  It's true that we'd like to have history on our side, but it's too late for that. We re-elected this bunch of incompetent megalomaniacs in 2004. History will judge us for that. All this mucking about in Iraq is just about wasting our treasury.

 

by Tergenev on 01/03/2007 09:10:35 AM EST

How long did the U.S. "occupy" Japan?
Japan was a real threat to the United States. Japan was actually involved in a direct unprovoked attack on the United States, unlike Iraq. Oh, and Japan didn't dissolve into a civil war while we where there. Funny how wars seem to be run well when those 'foreign-policy incompetents' in the Democratic party are running things, isn't it?

Do you actually believe Cenk reads the responses to his rants? (assuming he originates them at all)
Nope. Although I do think he writes them. They have his cadence.

As to the economics of the War. How much would Oil be per barrel if we were not in Iraq?
The price of oil is not impacted much by Iraq. What does impact it is the sudden new demand for it in China, India, and Indonesia. And the fact that no new large fields are being discovered.

How many U.S. Casualties were tolled in WW2?
Many, but in WW2 the military forces were rebuilt with drafted citizens and domestic spending was curtailed so we could afford to maintain our new massive military. Today we're just using up the highly skilled, trained, and superbly equipped US military that Bill Clinton left in place, and replacing it with . . . .nothing. 

How many in Vietnam?
We had a huge military left over from WW2 and Korea. We had a structure in place to support these losses, as tragic as they were. Vietnam was a tragedy that should never have been allowed to happen.

How many in Iraq?
Every one of them is irreplacable. Because we aren't willing to pay for what we do there, in volunteering for service and paying to replace equipment and training. And we were lied into this war by our imbecile of a president.

How many in gang violence last year?
What the HELL does this have to do with anything??

How many American deaths due to drinking and driving last year?
See above.

How many American deaths due to smoking last year?
People want to smoke, they're free to die from it.

Fatty foods?

See above.

And you are overyly anxious about Iraq, because?
I'm not anxious about Iraq. I'm anxious about the future of a United States of America where $150billion per year , and all of our military, are being wasted there. Let me put this in perspective . . . we consider ourselves the only remaining superpower. We think this because we can project military power. But the world changes. What happens if China invaded Taiwan? What happens if North Korea nukes South Korea? We don't have any military forces free to respond. We are neglecting our equipment and our men. And we are so fricken far in debt that we can't afford to buy our way out, as we would have in the past.

If China suddenly launches a space attack plane that can stealthily bomb any point on earth at any time, what would we do? If you think it's not in their capability, remember they are going to launch a probe to the moon this year, they've put men in space, they have reliable launch capabilities, and they have TRILLIONS of dollars of spare capital to do it with. And if we plan to borrow to finance a major new round of military R&D, WHO's going to finance it?? Our current major lender is CHINA!!

Bush and his cabal are leaving us weakened and with no options. In Iraq he has squandered a century of built up power, for no good end. And he lied to us to get us into it. 

 

by Tergenev on 01/03/2007 10:46:44 AM EST

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"Do you actually believe Cenk reads the responses to his rants?"

As a matter of fact, he does.

Yesterday (on the show) he was laughing at the response in this thread, where some Islamic guy was bragging that Muslims bathe at least once per week.

By the way, according to all reports, President Mahmoud of Iran is devastatingly rank. 

by KenTX on 01/03/2007 02:45:57 PM EST

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<sarcasm>You're right, there's no way she could have come up with anything THAT hilarious on her own.</sarcasm>

by OneHitKill on 01/03/2007 09:04:43 PM EST

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Magnifique!

"Freedom is important to Republicans as long as someone else pays for it on the battlefield and on April 15th."

by MRFred on 01/03/2007 09:46:08 PM EST

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This thread has become so bastardized, I figured this is as good a place as any for this comment.

I just found out why TinyDancingQueen disappeared from the forum. It turns out that a new medical therapy was developed for people with his condition, and I'm happy to report that the experimental treatment was a complete success.

Tiny no longer has interest in harrassing and stalking people in the forum, because he's too busy chasing women all over Houston. He's got to make up for a lot of lost time.

by KenTX on 01/04/2007 08:00:36 AM EST

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You sus out my IP addy kenny boy?

I dont live in Houston remember? You did your detective work and I live in Oregon remember?

kenny boy  ignorant gay bashing is so last week. You need to catch up with the world. I know its ok in Texas, but even this backwards ass place will catch up .

by Tiny Demon on 01/05/2007 05:43:55 PM EST

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"I was banned because I disagreed with you."

Well then, how did you get reinstated? Did you have to beg and plead and cry? 

by KenTX on 01/06/2007 09:28:36 AM EST

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Did you get banned, Tiny?  I'm not convinced.  If everyone who disagreed with Ken were to get banned, this forum would be one hell of a lonely place.  The Truck Stop At the Edge of the Internet, you could call it.

We've already established that, in order to get banned here, you have to do a lot more than disagree with Ken or hurl insults or call yourself "BytchBang" (or have multiple accounts).  So you must have done something hella bad.  Did you push you sister Edie down the stairs and blame it on the dog?

by OneHitKill on 01/06/2007 09:55:22 AM EST

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