You can't be anti-abortion and be pro-life

I really wish progressives would not use the conservative movement's language, which not only falls into their frame, but misrepresents the issues.

Anti-abortion people aren't pro-life, they are anti-abortion.  Talk to 98% of them for more than 15 minutes and what you generally find is that the bottom line isn't about life at all, it's about punishing people for unapproved sex, and about controlling women.

For a position to be genuinely pro-life, it should decrease the likelihood that people will die.  And even if we leave aside the fact that every other conservative position is one that, far from protecting life, actually increases death and maiming, it's worth remembering that being anti-abortion is itself pro-death.

Conservative positions in general (war, eliminating worker safety regulation, preventing or destroying economic security and healthcare availability for most Americans, devolving agencies that protect the public from corporate malfeasance, etc.) act specifically against the enhancement of your chances (and those of your children) of staying alive.

But experience throughout the world shows that bans on abortion merely increase the likelihood that pregnant women will die.  Such bans do not reduce abortion, they just reduce safe, legal abortion.  Moreover, societies that ban abortion also are the ones that prevent good sex education and access to birth control, thus increasing the need for abortion.

It is not an accident that as the anti-abortion movement has become bolder in the United States, there are increasing moves to make birth control less accessible.

It is not an accident that the same people who oppose abortion also oppose making the HPV vaccine available to young women.

It is not an accident, either, that the same people who support forced birth control for women on welfare and sterilizing poor and black women are part of the movement that calls itself "pro-life".

The way to reduce abortion and save lives is to provide good, comprehensive sex education to children from the beginning, and to make birth control easily available, while improving the economic prospects of people who might otherwise find pregnancy too much of a burden.

That is the only truly pro-life position.

So please stop using the anti-life party's terminology; they anti-abortion, and most emphatically not pro-life.
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George Carlin used to ask how pro-life people supported the death penalty and salvodoran death squads?

Now they support the death penalty, the war in Iraq, torture, military buildup, billions of people being left behind on Earth so Satan can desecrate, mutilate, sodomize them all etc. and plenty of other terrible stuff.

I have just come to the conclusion that they really just want more babies to kill, maim, torture and otherwise oppress. 

To make a real nice concise point no one should ever be allowed to call themselves pro-life and support the death penalty. 

by ProfRich on 01/30/2007 11:08:17 AM EST

"I consider abortion an effective method of killing future Democrats, since Republicans do not abort their babies."

Wait until our genetic research brings us to the point where we can identify a person's political affiliation before they are born.   I'm sure you'll see plenty republican parents fearfully pulling the figurative plug on the little democratic bun in their oven.

Don't bet against OneHitKill. 

by OneHitKill on 01/30/2007 12:13:22 PM EST

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I don't really care too much about abortion or the death penalty.  And my only real problem with the death penalty is that we are not that good at figuring out who commited the crimes we are killing people for.  I feel very confident Sadam did what he was accused of so I am ok with him bieng hung, personally.

He did, in one of the strangest revelations of all time, turn out to be pretty funny (in a soup nazi fallend dictator who hadn't grasped reality sort of way).

So basically, I have nothing to argue with in this post.  Good job Ken! 

by ProfRich on 01/30/2007 12:16:13 PM EST

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There are plenty of Democrats, they just took over both houses of congress. Free thinkers aren't born they choose to be Democrats when they realize what the alternative has to offer.

by Left Is Right on 01/30/2007 01:52:30 PM EST

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The line is somewhere between there.  It's fuzzy, but it's somewhere between.

by jarett on 01/30/2007 04:40:37 PM EST

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I used to be a women's health counsellor, and I had plenty of clients who came for abortion counselling who were Republicans.  Some of them had marched against abortion.  They'd say, "I didn't think it could happen to me.

by Avedon on 02/22/2007 08:50:00 AM EST

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