The Young Turks: TELL CONGRESS TO DUMP LIMBAUGH FROM Armed Forces Radio

We're going directly to Congress to take him off the Armed Forces Radio airwaves. Electe d officials in Congress have the power to prevent Limbaugh from using taxpayers' money to disrespect and censure the voices of our soldiers.

Join us and hold Rush Limbaugh accountable for his offensive and outrageous comments -- tell your member of Congress to Dump Rush From Armed Forces Radio today!

http://ga4.org/campaign/dum prush

SUBJECT: Dump Rush From Armed Forces Radio

DEAR DECISION MAKER:

Last week, Rush Limbaugh called American servicemembers who support an end to the war in Iraq "phony soldiers."

Rush Limbaugh's show is aired on Armed Forces Radio, which is funded by taxpayers' dollars. This money is not intended for radio show hosts to spout insults at our soldiers. These "phony soldiers" have simply exercised their right to free speech, as Rush Limbaugh does on a daily basis.

Limbaugh has ignored requests from individuals like Wes Clark to invite VoteVets.org's Jon Soltz to his show - and repeat these same insults to an Iraq war veteran's face.

As a member of Congress, you can prevent Limbaugh from further disrespecting and censoring the voices of our soldiers on the military airwaves.

Please Dump Rush From Armed Forces Radio - to question the sincerity of our "phony" troops from someone who has never worn the uniform is disgraceful and must end.

Thank you for your consideration.

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TELL CONGRESS TO DUMP LIMBAUGH FROM Armed Forces Radio | 9 comments (9 topical, 0 hidden)

Troops (none / 0)

How about we let the troops vote on who they want to listen to.

They'll probably vote for someone who doesn't troop brash.

O wait...we're already doing that.'

Yep, let's keep letting the troops vote. Power to the people!

by acroso on 10/15/2007 04:47:44 PM EST

How about this? (none / 0)

How about adding Air America programming because Armed Forces Radio is paid for by U.S taxpayers , and should represent different points of view. Oh I forgot conservanutters like you don't believe in free speech unless the speech is something you like. That's why you all watch Faux News

Oh and removing Limbaugh for his anti American phoney soldier babble

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 10/15/2007 06:02:30 PM EST

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How about (none / 0)

What if the troops don't want to listen to that troops bashing?

Besides who is to decide what is fair and what is balanced, left right etc. A Bush appointee? Liberal judges? a "bipartisan committee" etc. God himself? Where is the center line. Cenk seems to think the center if somewhere between the Green Party and Communists whenever he talks about it.

by acroso on 10/16/2007 02:17:46 AM EST

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Don't worry (none / 0)

Last I heard only 1 hour of the show is broad casted on military radio. I'm sure El Rushbo is aware of which hour that is.

by z1p101 on 10/16/2007 03:09:02 AM EST

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I'm not sure it really matters (none / 0)

During WWII the troops used to listen to Tokyo Rose and I really don't think they bought in to her propaganda. I think most troops can see through the BS of the drug addled gas bag and listen for the entertainment value.

I know I'm being silly, but I actually have more faith in the intelligence of our military than many here seem to.

Besides trying to shut him down only gives the Cons more ammo to try to show how intolerant the Left is, it's better to just let him flubber.

Does anyone really believe that the troops on the ground are going to believe Mr. Limprod over what they see with their own eyes?

I can see them now. "Well golly Sgt. Wilson, I thought we were in the middle of a big ole cluster fuck, but then I listened to Lush Limprod, and he told me I was safer here than on the streets of New York. I feel so much better now."

As for as AAR being on AFR, I could agree with that.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 10/16/2007 05:58:38 AM EST

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wondering about something (none / 0)

"I can see them now. "Well golly Sgt. Wilson, I thought we were in the middle of a big ole cluster fuck, but then I listened to Lush Limprod, and he told me I was safer here than on the streets of New York. I feel so much better now."

Well, now that you put it that way it does seem pretty absurd.

I will note though that everything I read about Vietnam indicates that many regular Army types continued to argue for continuance of that war, even after most everybody else thought it was a pointless waste. I always figured this is just a brand of thinking that permeates the military that is part and parcel to being aggressive. I do NOT think it should be the basis for making policy, since I think many would fight on doggedly no matter what the cost in lives and money. But they can hardly be blamed for doing what they're trained to do. I do not think their willingness to go forward is in itself a reason to continue with a policy that has no distinct goal, no definition of victory, no clear idea of who the enemy really is, nor any real plan than just to continue what they're doing until "things get better".

I am very curious about your thoughts on this. Do you think this is so?

by bfaul on 10/16/2007 07:47:08 PM EST

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In my opinion, (none / 0)

an officer's primary objective is the welfare of his unit.

I doubt that any responsible officer would recklessly drive his men into a meat grinder, if he didn't perceive a positive risk/reward scenario.

by KenTX on 10/16/2007 08:07:34 PM EST

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: A few points (none / 0)

I will note though that everything I read about Vietnam indicates that many regular Army types continued to argue for continuance of that war, even after most everybody else thought it was a pointless waste.

Yes and in WWII many Germans and Japanese wanted to continue to fight even when everyone else thought it was pointless, the same is true in most wars.

During the Civil War many Rebels wanted to continue to fight the damn Yankees, convinced that they could lick them all.

The military trains men to believe in their ability to overcome any adversary, and you will always have a core group willing and wanting to continue no matter what the circumstance. That is actually a good thing. You don't want the military making the decisions about policy, you want the military to do what the military is trained to do, kill people and break things.

Speaking as someone who was in Viet Nam towards the end of the conflict, I will say that I knew a lot of guys who wanted to finish it, but the majority just wanted to get it over with and go home alive.

I know two guys, one I work with the other I used to work with. Both served in Iraq, one got home last year and his attitude was declare victory and come home, the other just got home from his third tour last week. His first two tours he was gung ho about the mission, Friday we went out for beers and he is now saying it's a fubared so bad that we'll be there forever. I was really upset that this administration took a loyal, patriotic, believed in the mission, gung ho guy, and turned him into someone who has finally lost faith.

Well he was probably a phony soldier anyway because REAL soldiers support the Shrub and the mission, you know real warriors like our own Bytchicums.

I doubt that any responsible officer would recklessly drive his men into a meat grinder, if he didn't perceive a positive risk/reward scenario.

You want to bet? Officers follow orders and it's left up to the noncoms to figure out the least risk, best reward scenario. Officers are desposable, but a good noncom is hard to replace.

There are a few exceptions, the guys who patrolled the Delta actually learned quick or died, of course when you're on a boat with 5 other guys, rank doesn't mean shit when you have incoming. Special forces for the most part knew their business, but young inexperienced officers probably got as many people killed as any one single thing in Nam, why do you think fragging was invented? 90 day wonders we called them, and most of the time it was a wonder if they managed to survive 90 days.

Here's a link to a Time article from April of 1965, see if anything sounds a bit familiar to you, in light of what we are being told about the troops today.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill
by Hubble on 10/16/2007 09:40:06 PM EST

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really (none / 0)

You seem to think America is somewhere to the right of Atilla The Hun. The problem with you conservatives is that you believe your own propaganda. America is not a conservative country.

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 10/16/2007 01:33:38 PM EST

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