Right-wing trolls work to form labor union

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"Being a troll used to mean something. These days, it's just work, all day, every day."

A full year ahead of the 2008 U.S. elections, the demands on right-wing trolls are higher than ever. Between questioning what law Scooter Libby broke, to assailing the patriotism of any and all that would question the long-running war in Iraq, to trying to get Cindy Sheehan's name into any discussion about anything, the average troll has a busy, if completely unfulfilling existence.

Which is part of the reason why a loosely formed coalition of right-wing trolls are trying to band together to form a labor union that they hope will help them receive health insurance, conduct collective bargaining or even set professional standards.

Organizers hope a trolls' labor group will showcase the importance of their roles in candidates' campaigns

"There are progressive blogs everywhere and the GOP needs us to do whatever it takes to get their message scrambled," Says one troll.

"When you create as many straw men per day as I do, It's exhausting," said Toad the Wet Sprocket, a right-wing troll who alternates between the sites Crooks & Liars and the Spacey Gracey Review. We need to unionize."

One major stumbling block is that nearly half of right-wing trolls were clearly unaware that they were, in fact, trolls. Noted behavioral scientist Tyler Reynolds of the University of Hawaii said it's a perplexing issue.

"It's hard to get into the mind of some of these trolls," said Reynolds. "They'll argue - vehemently - if need be, against anyone. Yet they refuse to accept their inherent trollness."

Reynolds listed a few common traits of a troll:

  • Spending an inordinate amount of time where you're not wanted;
  • A slavish, dog-like obedience to authority;
  • A willingness to mimic any talking point;
  • A willingness to change any opinion you hold at the drop of the President's hat

Other right-wing troll traits include calling those that disagree with you communists, as well as not being able to actually define what a communist is. When asked what a communist is, Toad the Wet Sprocket angrily lashed out "Only a communist would ask a stupid question like that. Commie."

In the end, the battle to unionize a rag-tag group of anonymous typing graffiti artists would seem an impossible quest. When asked why he believe creating a labor union for right-wing trolls was possible, one troll gave a rambling answer that had nothing whatsoever to do with the question.

"Why is it that you hate America so much?" he said . "Our troops are over there fighting them so we don't have to fight them here. But the liberal media still wants socialized medicine? You know, people like you and the people of New Orleans are always looking for a hand out. Well, the free ride is over. You, and Rosie O'Donnell, and Ward Churchill, and Cindy Sheehan will be hung for treason one day soon. God Bless America. God Bless George Bush, and death to the Islamofascists."

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Funny, though I think the modern-day troll has largely dropped Commies from its belfry.

 So who wrote it?

by ashbul on 12/22/2007 10:00:22 AM EST


Ashbul aks a good question. "Who wrote it?"

It is polite to acknowledge the work of others when you can't come up with an original idea of your own.

Why do conservatives populate liberal forums? A better question might be: Why do liberals care? What are they afraid of?

Our goal is to offer conservative logic, juxtaposed to liberal emotion, and conservative reason side-by-side with liberal passion.

by KenTX on 12/22/2007 10:40:57 AM EST

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(really) cheap but you set it up so well:

Conservative Logic?

by ihavenobias on 12/22/2007 01:17:11 PM EST

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Ha! The cruel to be kind example is a great one. Except conservatives forget the kind part.

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 12/22/2007 05:38:52 PM EST

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Oh ken troll we are smart enough to know what you are and are up to.

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 12/22/2007 01:22:18 PM EST

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Are you ready to be my friend?

by KenTX on 12/22/2007 01:24:59 PM EST

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Are you still here?

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 12/22/2007 01:32:24 PM EST

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"Our goal is to offer conservative  logic, juxtaposed to liberal  emotion, .  .  ." [emphasis added]

Those words do not mean what you seem to think they mean. That which you dismiss as "emotion" is really  humanity.  And that which you call "logic" is nothing but soulless, selfish greed.

The GOP had a soul when it fought slavery.  That's one good idea in 150 years. There's nothing logical about promoting a party that hasn't been right in over 1 and 1/2 centuries.

by Dogger on 12/23/2007 01:18:12 PM EST

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Liberal emotion looks like this.
emotion



Conservative logic looks like this.
logic
Any questions?

by KenTX on 12/23/2007 01:59:39 PM EST

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Well known fact. Right wing bottom feeders that still support this guy are not intelligent.

Sorry you cant join the troll union, because you are rabidly anti union. You probably need the benefits.

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 12/23/2007 02:33:11 PM EST

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You're pointing to Einstein as a Conservative thinker?

Is it because he said, "I do not believe that the secret of the bomb should be given to the United Nations Organization [or] the Soviet Union"?

Because the NEXT line is "The secret of the bomb should be committed to a World Government, and the United States should immediately announce its readiness [to do so]. . . . This Government should be founded by the United States, the Soviet Union and Great Britain."

Isn't that exactly what Bircher's and other Right Wing fanaticos like to call "Liberalism?"

But, I guess I can't blame you for trying to use Einstein as a Conservative example of logic. Otherwise, you would have to hold up the likes of William "The Bloody" Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Newt Gingrich, and Dick Morris.

Did you notice that the Republicans in the Senate have won the "worst obstructionists ever" award, and they still have a year to go? What a bunch of whiny little brats. Why do they hate America?

by MedfordTim on 12/24/2007 10:16:02 AM EST

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Thanks for backing me up, Tim.

Claiming Einstein is a conservative is almost as laughable as claiming Jesus was not a liberal. As I said, Republicans are wrong about everything.

Ken appears to be a typical conservative.  When history proves him wrong, he simply disputes the historical record.

by Dogger on 12/24/2007 01:54:47 PM EST

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Conservatives logically opposed ( not an all inclusive list...):

  • Revolutionary War
  • Federal System of Government
  • US Constitution
  • abolition of slavery
  • Louisiana Purchase
  • minority suffrage
  • National banking system
  • veterans benefits ( post civil war)
  • Anti-trust regulation
  • product safety
  • work place safety
  • National parks
  • Panama Canal
  • womans suffrage
  • league of nations
  • unemployment benefits
  • regulation of security trading
  • social security
  • Grand Coulee Dam ( PWA, TVA...)
  • Marshall Plan
  • space program
  • civil rights, school desegregation et al
  • womans rights
  • environmental regulations
  • environmental clean-up
  • alternative energy
  • Federal funding for psychiatric services
  • Qualified Air Trafic Controllers
  • Aids Reserch
  • Internets
  • Kittens and Puppies

Wheew...I'm tired..Ive got to stop!. All that logic gives me headache. Basically the majority of what makes up modern life in the US was opposed by conservatives.

Why?

  • Because they are greedy anal retentive pricks?
  • Because they live in the middle ages and are still pissed of about the Magna Carta?
  • Because if something isnt in the Bible then its baaad?

Beats me, personally I think it has something to do with bad breast feeding and chewing on lead paint. 

 

by MRFred on 12/24/2007 05:31:33 PM EST

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You should have an asterik by the Panama Canal - they opposed building it and then opposed giving it back to Panama (Treaties be DAMNED!!)

I'm going to steal a punchline from Demetri Martin of The Daily Show. In his stand-up special, he showed himself to be of the Steven Wright school of comedy - taking everyday things and turning them upside down.

Republicans would love it if revolving doors had "pull" signs on them. Never get anywhere and travel backwards the whole way...

by MedfordTim on 12/24/2007 05:50:07 PM EST

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From Wikipedia:

The United States, under Theodore Roosevelt, bought out the French equipment and excavations, and began work on May 4, 1904, after helping Panama achieve independence from Colombia. In exchange for U.S. help in separating Panama from Colombia and setting it up as a independent nation, Panama would give the United States control of the Panama Canal Zone. A significant investment was made in eliminating disease from the area, particularly yellow fever and malaria, the causes of which had recently been discovered (see Health measures during the construction of the Panama Canal). With the diseases under control, and after significant work on preparing the infrastructure, construction of an elevated canal with locks began in earnest. The Americans also gradually replaced the old French equipment with machinery designed for a larger scale of work - such as the giant hydraulic crushers supplied by the Joshua Hendy Iron Works - quickening the pace of construction, President Roosevelt had the former French machinery minted into pins for all workers who spent at least two years on the construction to commemorate their contribution to the building of the canal.

In 1907 US President Theodore Roosevelt appointed George Washington Goethals as chief engineer of the Panama Canal. The building of the Canal was completed in 1914, two years ahead of the target date of June 1, 1916. The canal was formally opened on August 15, 1914 with the transit of the cargo ship Ancon.

by KenTX on 12/24/2007 06:07:24 PM EST

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I didn't mean to imply you were a "dopsie". I wish we could edit existing posts.

by KenTX on 12/24/2007 06:13:29 PM EST

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I'm too mind weary to go into the other stuff. For readers who care, I think Teddy was the model for the worst of the Neocons thought processes (Imperialism), but the movement itself started as Neoliberals. (See: the Kristol family history.)

I wonder what Teddy would think of the "conservators of the public lands" in D.C. these days?

And, yes, the original 1903 Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty gave the canal ro the U.S. Unfortunately, no Panamanians signed the "treaty." It was a deal between France and the U.S.

Thanks for reminding me about another of Jimmy Carter's finer moments. I miss having someone with ethics and morals as President.

by MedfordTim on 12/25/2007 12:59:29 AM EST

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TR was hardly a "conservative" or a Republican as we understand it today. First he wasn't mentally ill or morally bankrupt and second he was a Progressive

"Roosevelt was a Progressive reformer who sought to move the dominant Republican Party into the Progressive camp. Progressives strongly opposed waste and corruption. (See , that leaves him right out of the current GOP .)They sought change in regard to worker's rights and protection of the ordinary citizen in general.( Definitely not a "Conservative" as you present it...) Initially the movement was successful at local level, and then it progressed to state and gradually national.

He distrusted wealthy businessmen and dissolved forty monopolistic corporations as a "trust buster". He was clear, however, to show he did not disagree with trusts and capitalism in principle but was only against corrupt, illegal practices. His "Square Deal" promised a fair shake for both the average citizen (through regulation of railroad rates and pure food and drugs ( Wow no Chinese lead or E-coli) and the businessmen. ( Wow No Savings and Loan, Enron, Subprime Crisis....)

by MRFred on 12/24/2007 08:39:36 PM EST

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Not only was Teddy Roosevelt a Republican, but he was a neoconservative.

Not only was TR a neoconservative, but he was the father of neoconservatism.

Neocons are typically socially progressive, yet militaristic and expansionist.


by KenTX on 12/24/2007 09:27:31 PM EST

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Always a pleasure doing business with you.

Now then, can you help me explain to zippy how to know when he is beat?

by KenTX on 12/25/2007 09:52:05 AM EST

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Zippy Pinhead?

 

by MRFred on 12/25/2007 09:53:00 AM EST

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z1p101 = zippy pinhead

by KenTX on 12/25/2007 10:07:59 AM EST

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To recap...The last exchange was over TR...I found a reference that discussed his Progressive tendancies and questioned his conservative credentials...you found some Neocon revisionism that pointed out his interventionist tendencies as a counter .

So, I illustrated TRs progressive side..counter to to your contention of being a "Republican" you showed his Neocon tendencies plus I got a few neat little zingers on his skill as a president. That proves that if you look hard enough you can find a reference that says what you want. I conceded the point on TR in light of the: "He( TR) was a reckless, frenetic interventionist who displayed little knowledge (especially on economic issues) or even concern about the likely consequences of his interventions.

To make a long story short...I guess folks on the blog need to understand the difference between opinionated, being right , and being a winner.

You are rarely all three at the same time in this life...except for TWBA...just ask him.

Now...shall I taunt you for a second time? 

by MRFred on 12/25/2007 10:16:43 AM EST

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You busted yourself up with your own link on the census thing. The rest is going to be up to legal interpretation. There is years of voter discrimination legal precedent that the Bush plants are going to have to try to explain away. That is a big reason that state courts are shooting the voter ID law down left and right. That and their own states constitutions.

Oh yea, can you tell us again how the constitution does not mention ex cons when it comes to voting rights? I got a big laugh out of that one and I'm sure every one else did too (including any 4th graders reading this). 

by z1p101 on 12/25/2007 10:19:08 AM EST

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Good points

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 12/24/2007 08:52:58 PM EST

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http://shakespearessister.b logspot.com/2007/08/right-w ing-trolls-work-to-form-lab or.html

Sorry.. had it on word pad for a long time and decided to post it..  had to look up where it came from

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 12/22/2007 01:21:22 PM EST

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thats to funny...

the best is talking to these repugs in r/l. its like talking to a 2yearold..

by Bungle on 12/22/2007 01:00:36 PM EST


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