12/28/2007 06:10:47 AM EST

I wonder, does Bush even consider...

posted by MedfordTim

...the other side of the coin?

"Underscoring the concerns, a grim President Bush interrupted his vacation to personally condemn Bhutto's murder, demanding that those responsible be brought to justice..."

Doesn't he realize that every time an American - whether military or private army - kills someone in Iraq or Afghanistan, every one of that persons relatives, friends, and neighbors say EXACTLY the same thing? THEY want "the murderers" brought to justice, too!

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That's the trouble with all sides having their own stories. Inconvenient facts, like, "My God, they're people too!" come into play. One country's Heroic Soldier of Freedom is another person's murdering assassin.

Why does Bush take any more umbrage at the death of a Pakistani politician than he does at the thousands of women who have died because of HIS actions? Why was there wall-to-wall coverage today? As in, why not EVERY day? There are certainly enough dead to talk about; give Bush 50 more billion, he'll keep them body bags filled.

How about YOU? Do you think Bhuto's death is anymore outrageous an event than a woman sitting in her home when a bomb hits? If so, why? Does it matter to you which "side" they're on?
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No he doesnt care (none / 0)
Absolutely not . Bush doesn't seem to care at all about soldiers dying for Oil .. Or a kid getting gasoline tossed on him and set on fire in Baghdad. He makes Nixon look downright compassionate.

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by Leeberal on 12/28/2007 09:06:38 PM EST

No need for the other 300 words you summed it up (none / 0)
"Yeah, I think George Bush realizes it, but I don't think he cares. That's what I like about him."

Thats what I dont like about you Ken troll

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by Leeberal on 12/28/2007 09:08:06 PM EST

Thanks for replying (none / 0)
I think I've come to the conclusion that there really isn't much call for my excess verbiage. I appreciate a response very much.

Even one which misses the point all together.

Aside from the assertion that we've killed "thousands" of al qaeda in Iraq every month - since their numbers have never reached even 10.000, that particular sub-species of humans would have been extinct the first year of the invasion. Except, of course, that there wasn't anything known as al qaeda in Iraq until after the second year of occupation began, so it would have been hard to kill "thiousands" every month back then.

"Here’s the bottom line. We are learning that there are a finite number of Muslims who want to fight America and die for Allah. And luckily, that number is relatively small and manageable."

You're just learning that NOW? I knew THAT on September 12, 2001. Any sensible person did. NOTHING HAS CHANGED, ...except a half a million people are dead (probably an understatement), millions more have been wounded and/or displaced from their homes, and the toll on America as an ideal has been one of great cost. I mourn the loss. I miss America.

And, I realize you are correct that the spineless bastards in Congress like it the way it is, Dems AND Republicans. They share the blame and, hopefully, Saddam is holding a space in hell for their arrival.

by MedfordTim on 12/29/2007 09:05:47 AM EST

ummm (none / 0)
Does that mean you want to go on the offense?

by acroso on 12/29/2007 09:31:52 AM EST

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well no (none / 0)
It means there is no reason for us to stay in Iraq other than the oil and anyone who doesnt admit that or know that is either a liar or insane.

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by Leeberal on 12/29/2007 01:47:42 PM EST

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Run out of room? (none / 0)
Where are the pictures of present and past Bush admin members?

They've certainly done more harm to America and Americans than the poor shlubs you've posted.

(and, just to further the D&R boiling cauldron of madness, some Democratic broad from New York is calling for troops in Pakistan?? What the FUUUUUUCCK???)

I'm sending $5 to Mike Gravel.........

by MedfordTim on 12/29/2007 08:04:19 PM EST

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Have you considered this? (none / 0)
The mindset and willful ignorance of anyone that refers to those that disagree with bush and his American taliban as traitors precludes them from engaging in any meaningful rational discourse.

Your problem is you dont read anything you just look at the pictures. heh

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by Leeberal on 12/29/2007 08:50:03 PM EST

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Is it me or is Ken beginning to channel BytchBang? (none / 0)
The entire liberals are all traitors thing is beginning to make me a little concerned about you Ken, as that was always the domain of Bytch and Chuz. Perhaps it's time to take advantage of that grade A insurance all Texans can afford to have the Dr. adjust the meds.

This is definitely not your best effort, it appears to be, old, tired, weak, and a little lazy on you part to use the rambling type post of your bat shit crazy compatriots of the past.

It appears that when Cons have nothing left you always pull out the old  liberals hate America talking point, when in fact we know that it is the Cons who really excel at killing fellow Americans

McVeigh

or

Rudolph

Finally a real American Hero to Republicans

Paul Hill

Now Ken we've both posted pictures to make our point, who among these group of people actually KILLED Americans?

Okay I'll admit it Cons are much better at murder than Liberals.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 12/30/2007 08:39:12 AM EST

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Sorry Ken you lose again (none / 0)
I admit it was a sucker play because I knew you would pull out good ole Ted as you always do and try to give him to the liberals. Unfortunately for you, you never read Ted, you might try to get to know your subject before accrediting ideology to them.

Let's start at the top before we get to Ted.

Timothy McVeigh WAS a REGISTERED Republican in New York


Eric Rudolph condemned the Republican Party for not standing up to the beliefs they espouse, meaning that he believes in what the Republican Party says, but as he so eloquently put it . “The Republican party is the modern day equivalent to the Pharisaical sect in ancient Judea. "You are like whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and inequity." Matthew 23:28” I don’t know sounds kind of Conservative to me.

That leaves us with Paul Hill, you don’t think the good cold blooded killer was a Con? REALLY?  Seriously, REALLY? An anti abortionist who was a fundamental preacher isn’t a con? REALLY?

Look your party was the one that decided to go out and recruit these guys, you can’t just disown them at your convenience.

So let's look at your guy Ted Kaczynski. Have you read Ted’s work Ken? Apparently not since he spends a good portion of his manifesto is spent condemning the leftist and he views leftist as being over socialized and attributes their you might try reading his views here.

But here is just a little sample of what Ted has to say
The psychology of modern leftism

6. Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

7. But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in mind mainly socialists, collectivists, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an ideology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types. Thus, what we mean by "leftism" will emerge more clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology. (Also, see paragraphs 227-230.)

8. Even so, our conception of leftism will remain a good deal less clear than we would wish, but there doesn't seem to be any remedy for this. All we are trying to do is indicate in a rough and approximate way the two psychological tendencies that we believe are the main driving force of modern leftism. We by no means claim to be telling the whole truth about leftist psychology. Also, our discussion is meant to apply to modern leftism only. We leave open the question of the extent to which our discussion could be applied to the leftists of the 19th and early 20th century
 


So while you might want to give Ted to us he claims the left is the enemy just like you do. You and Ted share many of the same views about liberals Ken. I'm not sayng I'm just saying!!!


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 12/30/2007 06:31:19 PM EST

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Very good Ken pull out the serial killers (none / 0)
John Wayne Gacy certainly an evil guy, but I think it's a draw when you compare him with this guy

Republican

Why he worked on a reelection campaign for a Republican. I'm betting he voted too!


So the left has one psychopath Dem despite you trying to give the left a guy who wrote an entire manifesto about the evil "left" to us to against how many psycho killers on your side?

You want to talk about a party gone insane, why does the Republican Party keep producing these people who just love to kill innocent people?

While we are talking about a Party that went insane, isn't always a group of God fearing Republicans who want to teach Religious beliefs with no basis in science in Science class because that's what the Baby Jesus told them to do?

Talk about insane? That's a subject I would think a Republican would want to avoid given recent history.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 12/30/2007 08:48:18 PM EST

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au contraire (none / 0)
You're the guy who brought whacko nuts into the discussion.

I believe it was you who posted the first pictures of the Rosenbergs and of "The American Taliban". By any ones definition I believe they qualify as "whacko nuts".

You weren't interested in addressing this post which appeared earlier in the thread.

Yes earlier than your current post but AFTER you posted your pretty little pictures Whacko leftist. I commented on your first post and you commented back.

As for as addressing your fashion for the young and rebellious I really didn't take it seriously. You stated My guess is that guys like Paul Hill, Eric Rudolph, Ted Kaczynski, Tim McVeigh probably didn't cast many votes in presidential elections. They don't really seem like typical primary voters if you know what I mean. With the exception of Ted Daczynski they were all politically active and all but one supported the Republican Party.
 
As to what the fashionable rebellious youth of our country wears, I'm thinking not that many of the kids who wear Chi T-Shirts are as actively involved as say Ted Bundy or Paul HIll. They wear them because they are "cool" and to piss people like you off.

I understand why you decided to try and change course on this one Ken, but you really do need to try just a little harder to slander the left. Going after stupid T-Shirts is really silly and not your best work by for.

"You just keep thinkin' Butch. That's what you're good at."

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 12/31/2007 06:29:33 AM EST

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Easy (none / 0)
It was when they started acting like Republishits.

("Democrat Party"? Really? That's the best you can do?)

by MedfordTim on 12/31/2007 09:44:11 AM EST

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incredible stupidity (none / 0)

"American forces help keep them in power, and help them control the radical element, seething in their countries."

Like the Shah of Iran.  That worked out real well, didn't it?

Idiot. 

by bfaul on 12/31/2007 10:58:40 AM EST

fun thought (none / 0)
Just a fun thought: we're one terrorist strike away from a landslide Republican victory in 08'

by acroso on 12/31/2007 02:33:35 PM EST

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