02/02/2007 07:53:00 AM EST

What happened to your phone call policy?????

posted by cbscopy

This morning for the first time in many months I called in to the show because I could not sleep.  The screener asked me what I was calling about.  I told him this was Frank in AZ. and that I agreed with Impeachment 100% and disagreed with it 0%.  but we would have to do something better with Chaney.  Then it hit me.  Whenever I have called in the past you guys were ready to engage whatever and whoever.  But your sreener lied and said we have always screened calls like this  and he hung up on me(what the FFFF) Do TYT menbers still have a voice,  who the hell do you think you are Mr. Screener.  you just lost a member for them with your rudeness. Do you think you can get very far in radio blowing off your loyal base that has followed you FROM DAY ONE.

I am so pissed right now about my country and the hubris displayed by our bleaders but you don't have to be pompus and rude to US.

CANCEL MY MEMBERSHIP.  ps I'll always love you jilly. cbs 

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A response to this will not change anything in my mind because the type of behavior displayed to me by your screener is the same "we are better than you" attitude that the ruling elite use and the likes of brash limbaugh uses.  I hereby commend all of you members for being able to stick with the membership but remember,  now that we are in power,  and your listenership grows you can not loose sight of who your base was,  who was listening to you when your phones hardly rang,  and who knew all along what was happeneing to this country and why,  who were the grass roots that raised awareness of the impending dictatorship...US your loyal base.  Someday you will find yourselves back up against the wall and you might need your loyal fans.  My wife cuts hair and if she moved to a new salon most people would follow her.  But if a loyal customer shows up at the new location and the receptioist is rude and brash,  and puts the loyal customer through the third degree (without my wife even knowing it) she deserves to loose that customer because she's "not minding the store" and not offering the same quality friendship as before.

CANCEL MY TYT MEMBERSHIP NOW.     cbscopy 

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see ya (none / 0)
thanks for the mems dems.

by cbscopy on 02/02/2007 07:54:39 AM EST

Speaking of policy changes (none / 0)

This post has little chance of being effective since they don't engage in the forums either (Dave does occasionaly).

They will post articles for us to discuss but that is about it.

Yeah, it is really, really not the same from the old days where we were part of the whole process and it was actually interactive.  Price of success I suppose.

In the forums we are just talking to each other down here in the dungeons fending off the trolls.  The Turks don't seem to be too involved.

It is a shame because the number one reason I came to be such a big fan of the show was how audience friendly it was and the way they treated thier listeners with respect and hospitality but things change.

I still think it is the best talk show (particularly if you dont count sports) but it ain't the same. 

by ProfRich on 02/02/2007 09:49:18 AM EST

You are right Prof (none / 0)
Let me say first off I have been listening to the show from the start, was an infrequent caller, and will remain a loyal listener, but I must say the tone did change after the move to AAR.

A month or so ago the guys were talking about  Internet posters and Cenk made a comment about how it was just a bunch of people posting who were basically stupid. (can't remember the exact wording, but that was the general tone) he then got that look on his face that said he realized that he might have said the wrong thing and quickly said well everyone but "OUR" posters "We love you guys". At that point I realized that as much as I love the show the guys lost me a little in the fact that many of us have been loyal from the start, and have tried to contribute to THEIR website and have talked up the show, but they really view us with just a little condescension.

I might be wrong, but I don't think so.

I still love the show and the guys, but it's just not quite the same.

As you say Prof, price of success, and perhaps reading your own press clippings.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 02/04/2007 01:50:21 PM EST

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The new face of TYT (none / 0)
It is not just the call screening that may have changed.  Since the move a few months ago the show seems to have jumped the rails in some regards.  Some of the objectivity and cold, critical rationality that initially drew me to the show has gone by the way side in favour of anesthetized rhetoric.  As an example, it really bothered me how they didn’t really apply any serious effort to Biden’s comments a couple of days ago (though they kept droning on about it much like Biden drones on).  I mean, really, does anybody who wants to be taken seriously think that Biden actually meant “clean” as in with soap and not “clean-cut” as in not wearing baggy pants and “grills.”  It doesn’t make Biden’s comments any more or less problematic but it does reflect a willingness to employ the same tools that the right used in distorting what John Kerry said about Bush being stuck in Iraq because he is a dumbass.  What makes this worse in some ways is that they were eating their own so to speak.  Not that Biden didn’t deserve criticism, but I just expect a little intellectual honesty. 
They are beginning to become caricatures of themselves in the mold of many right-wing personalities who simply become absurd in their reasoning or lack there of.  Jill in particular seems to have gone completely fucking sideways.  I always thought she was a little quirky and neurotic but now she is just nutty as squirrel turds (but maybe that’s a topic for another post).  I don’t know how much longer I can listen to them as a serious outlet--although it is still entertaining. 
On a positive note, I do love the music and clips during the breaks…Jayar, you rock.

by nfc on 02/02/2007 11:48:42 AM EST

The tone has changed (none / 0)
I agree there used to be a lot more interaction between the Turks, and the listeners and as someone who called in back in the good ole days the screener would just ask what do you want to talk about and were are you calling from. Only once was I told sorry we just don't have time to get back to you but call back tomorrow.

They would challenge Republicans to call in and engage in debate, and would talk about any subject the callers called in about.

I figured it would change with the bigger market, but hanging up on someone and lying seems a bit excessive.

I'm still a fan, and think it's the best show out there but it doesn't have the same edge it had before, and callers don't have nearly the voice they used to have.

Hopefully they will not become the Rush LimpRods of the Left.


cbs I hope you aren't leaving the forum, you add a unique perspective to the exchange.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 02/02/2007 01:34:04 PM EST

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I think most of the changes are superficial (none / 0)
Cenk can't curse anymore, etc.

I do miss the Republican challenges.  But Dave has been pretty honest with us thus far and I think if we ask him about it he'll be straight with us and let us know what's going on.

It could simply be that call volume has shot through the roof.  It could also be that the AAR callscreener and board op suck.

by jarett on 02/02/2007 02:45:07 PM EST

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Remember - different call screeners now (none / 0)
It's Air America now, keep in mind. It's not picked up at the show anymore. I'm just glad they're starting to let in a few calls now. We went a few weeks with none.

I'd like to see them set up an instant message feed into the studio so us Netizens can get feedback to them right away. Sometimes, they get things wrong (who doesn't?) and it would be nice to see these goofs corrected.

by MedfordTim on 02/02/2007 04:29:37 PM EST

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I hate to post this but... (none / 0)

I was a listener as Jill eased into a full time co-host and have always liked her on the show, smart girl, lots of interesting persepctive.

Earlier this week she really upset me.

I was listenting to this new Absolute Truth show Cenk and Jill do.  I am assuming they are doing it to try and increase traffic or exposure or revenue but either way they are invting us/asking us to listen.  So I did.

Jill gets about 30 seconds into the show before announcing she doesn't give a crap about any of these topics and is annoyed she has to talk about them.  Well, then why the fuck do you expect me to listen?

Look, most of us have jobs. And no matter how much we love our jobs, in the end they are always a grind some times.  I used to produce a talk show and I know as well as anyone how hard it is to come up with three to four hours of crap to talk about every day, five days a week.  

I know you have to fake it a lot.  But that is true in every job, in fact, it IS your job.  I am a teacher and like my job but God knows I don't fly about of bed every single day and say, "I get to teach the Panic of 1837 today!  AWESOME!"

I was waiter, that was worse. No one wants a waiter who clearly doesn't give a shit about you or his job.

Its true in every field.  Whether you are a Congressman or a stipper.  An actor or a bus driver.  Shit gets boring if you keep doing it.

It is particularly hard to stomach hearing this from someone who has a job lots of people want (like talk show host).

You think Larry King rushes to work everyday thinking, "I get to have a two hour conversation with Richard Luger today, pinch me!"  Or " More Dick Gephart? Is this my birthday?"  Hell no.  And he has been doing that shit since before the Kabbah Stone got shattered.  Say what you want about the guy, but he is a pro.  He brings it every night (for untold centuries) and that is what professionals do.

Do you think Cal Ripken put in his uni for game 2,097 saying, "Who we got? Devil Rays!  Kick ass!"

If you don't like your job some days, welcome to the working week.  Just don't go telling the people who are looking to you to do it well.  Save it for the when the mics are off  like the rest of us.

by ProfRich on 02/02/2007 02:33:31 PM EST

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gotta agree (none / 0)
That comment dismayed me also.

But, and I hate to say this, I think she is truly representative of people her age in saying it. Take away our presence in Iraq and how many 20 somethings would be involved in Politics at all?

It is not unique to this generation. Sea Story time: When I left for my first cruise, people were marching in the streets almost daily, everything was being protested, the music on the airwaves reflected it in much of what was being played, it dominated the news.

When I returned to the states approximately 9 months later, the Draft had been discontinued and the Paris Peace talks appeared to be on the verge of working. The Radio was spitting out songs by Wayne-freakin'-Newton, Charlie Rich, Freddy Fender, Anne Murray, John Denver, and Helen Reddy.

WTF happened to the passion? There were still many issues to work out, power to fight, authority to question...but everybody seemed more interested in Bowling For Dollars.

So, I'm never surprised, but always saddened when I hear young folks expressing no interest whatsoever in politics or the way our country works - especially when they say something they believe because they've heard it a lot but has no basis in reality.

by MedfordTim on 02/02/2007 04:24:27 PM EST

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I guess its not just me (none / 0)
Look, people can not care or care, that is thier business.  But you can't be in the talk business and freely admit you have no opinion, that you don't care.  After all, isn't that what you are selling as a talk show host?  Your opinion.  When you admit you don't have one and are just making some shit up to make some money (it is your profession after all) doesn't that make what you are trying to sell me worthless?

by ProfRich on 02/02/2007 04:44:21 PM EST

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Jill rocks .. I love The Absolute Truth (none / 0)
Absolute Truth is an entertainment show and Jill is totally engaging. I love her stories about her love life. I love the interaction with Cenk . How he mentions it when Jill has "gone to far " again lol.


You won't be seeing Jane Pauly sitting there with her bra on the outside of her shirt. But I did on The Absolute Truth.


When Jill was discussing taking pills all the time. It reminded me that christ 90% of America is on xanex  why is that??  Jill's comments on who is hot and who is not where priceless. Shes Perez Hilton ..in a better body..

The show works because Cenk and Jill are totally different. The back and forth stuff is some of the most entertaining.


by Left Is Right on 02/07/2007 01:39:49 PM EST

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all these comments (none / 0)
These are all very important issues.  I'm glad to read all this that you guys are thinking.  I will write a brief comment on all this a bit later.

David

by yturks on 02/02/2007 03:21:23 PM EST

Thanks Dave (none / 0)
It kind of made me sick to my stomach a bit to post that stuff but I really respect your integrity for coming down here and talking to us about and appreciatting our comments in the spirit they are intended (trying to help).
I still love the show and listen every morning and try to catch up what I missed throughout the day.

by ProfRich on 02/02/2007 04:23:02 PM EST

[ Parent ]
New forum format (none / 0)
Pros - comment no longer needed for blog to show up on front page, more topics on front page

Cons - most commented topics no longer stay on front page, still no way to recommend posts

by alphasigmookie on 02/02/2007 04:15:32 PM EST

Forum (none / 0)
I would really much rather go to a PHPbb-based solution rather than the blog system.

by jarett on 02/02/2007 04:26:51 PM EST

[ Parent ]
What the hell happened? (none / 0)
I am totally lost!
How does the forum work now? 
How come I can't read the new posts without having to wade through all the old posts?
Where are all the topics people were actually posting to?
Can I change it back on my computer?
This is no good.

by ProfRich on 02/02/2007 04:30:49 PM EST

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Personally, I liked things better (none / 0)
when TYT was on Sirius. They could say whatever they wanted. Maybe I too am old news and should just let go. I used to listen all the time on Sirius but now not so much. I don't like FCC controlled radio. Maybe it will change.

by MountainMan on 02/02/2007 07:03:47 PM EST

Now there are two of them (none / 0)
Now there are two lines of inquiry. One is about the tone of the show and our interaction with listeners and viewers, and the other is about changes in the forum or blogs.

I am not the definitive word on any of this, but I'll try.  The show is very different on AAR compared to how it was on Satellite Radio. I think everybody, the listeners/viewers and the hosts, like the old Satellite Radio show better, and with good reason. Satellite radio is a great vehicle.  

But we are no longer on Sirius, and I would have to ask all of you to please understand this change. Please separate in your minds the changes that are an unavoidable consequence of the shift to AAR versus other changes that are in our control.  Some of the unavoidable changes are the increased commercial time, the toned down language, and the reduced show time leading to less of a free-flowing conversation full of amusing digressions.

I agree with the sentiment that the show should in several ways, on air and online, increase the interaction with listeners and viewers, or return to the level of interaction and intimacy from years past.  On the subject of calls, naturally we can't take as many because there are more commercials and less show time.  That doesn't excuse our taking practically NO calls.  If you want the show to take more calls, please email that request to theyoungturks@googlegroups. com.  Those comments have a much higher chance of being implemented than the comments here.

Which brings us to more interaction online. Again, I agree we need this. Please express your interest in having more interaction with Cenk and Ben and Jill and the rest of us by emailing theyoungturks@googlegroups. com.

I don't know exactly what happened with the call screener with whom cbscopy had a run in.  I'll talk to the screener about it; I've already emailed with cbscopy.  It's true that before we wouldn't pre-screen comments, but now it's a little more necessary because when we do take calls, we get WAY more than we used to. Also, the call screener who works for AAR in NYC rather than with us in Los Angeles, doesn't know the regulars. (For that matter, since we take so few calls, there aren't really "regulars" anymore.)

On taking messages during the show, the instant message solution could work, but the hosts couldn't keep up with the IMs, since they just keep scrolling and a good, insightful comment might get buried in zillions of lines of text.  But we can monitor that in the control room a bit.  Cenk this week did mention and address several emails that arrived while we were on the air. So maybe we've turned the corner on that. If you want more of this interaction, please email theyoungturks@googlegroups. com.  I have now repeated that three times because it's the single best piece of advice I can give you. Trust me.

Anyway, keep commenting please. I'll try to address, answer or implement your comments.  I'll save my thoughts on the changes in the forum for another post.

David

by yturks on 02/02/2007 07:12:25 PM EST

the show is now better (none / 0)
"The show is very different on AAR compared to how it was on Satellite Radio."

Yeah it's different. The show is now much better.

Folks, the world of liberal political talk radio is not growing. It is concentrating and consolidating at AirAmerica.

What is the best show on AirAmerica radio? The Young Turks, of coouurrrse! There isn't even a second place finisher.

There will always be political liberal talk on the radio, and from what I can tell, there will always be a Number One program. The Young Turks are winning the competition.

by KenTX on 02/04/2007 03:50:39 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Sorry to break it to the conservatives (none / 0)
I hate to break this to the conservatives but liberal talk radio is indeed growing. Since it was non existent before.  The conservatives keep predicting the death of AAR presumably because no one  likes the liberal message. They would be dead wrong.  Clear Channel is looking into hiring liberal talk radio hosts and in fact carries AAR .  AAR shows often beat their more established conservative competition market to market.

Starting an entire radio network from the ground up and toss in some shenanigans by the FORMER owner  and its a tough road . How much money did Faux News make the first yrs? I remember El Rusho the drug addled  Viagra abuser  tv show was cancelled.

by Left Is Right on 02/07/2007 06:09:09 PM EST

[ Parent ]
have you ever played chess? (none / 0)
"Clear Channel is looking into hiring liberal talk radio hosts and in fact carries AAR."

True statement. But the motivation is not ratings or revenue. This move is proactive innoculation and palusible deniability against charges from a Democrat controlled Congress that Clear Channel is a Right Wing Thought Control Machine that has monopolized publicly-o wned air waves.

by KenTX on 02/07/2007 10:56:26 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Conservative clap trap (none / 0)
Clear Channel obviously disagrees with conservatives that say that  the liberal message doesn't sell.

Dem's don't need to whine all they have to do is re enact the fairness doctrine.

by Left Is Right on 02/08/2007 01:02:10 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Fairness (none / 0)
Left is Right wrote: Dem's don't need to whine all they have to do is re enact the fairness doctrine.

In light of the First Amendment, where does freedom end and fairness begin?

by Twba on 02/08/2007 01:52:26 PM EST

[ Parent ]
USA (none / 0)
In the USA I grew up in freedom and fairness used to be intertwined.

by Left Is Right on 02/08/2007 05:26:03 PM EST

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Invisible airwaves crackle with life (none / 0)
Government imposed fairness is a restriction of freedom. So, who should be brought on to balance Cenk and make the Young Turks fair? How much should the government fine Cenk if he doesn't allow opposing views equal time? I want the government to keep its nose out of talk radio. Fairness rules should remain dead and buried.

by Twba on 02/09/2007 02:29:35 AM EST

[ Parent ]
desperate liberals (none / 0)
"Clear Channel obviously disagrees with conservatives that say that  the liberal message doesn't sell."

The liberal message sells on The Daily Show, and on MSNBC, but it most certainly does not sell on the radio airwaves. I can supply all manner of data to support this assertion.

"Dem's don't need to whine all they have to do is re enact the fairness doctrine."

I understand why you would make such a statement. Without the Fairness Doctrine, or the mercy of Clear Channel, there is no future for liberal political talk radio.

So can we assume that you work for AirAmerica? 

by KenTX on 02/08/2007 02:20:24 PM EST

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Conservatives crystal ball needs cleaning (none / 0)
Liberal talk radio is a rising force in America. Some conservatives are in total denial about  that, the war in Iraq, and the direction Bush is taking this country.

Thankfully  a large majority of the American people would have to disagree with their minority views.

by Left Is Right on 02/08/2007 05:23:56 PM EST

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I wish you were right, (none / 0)
because I like both conservative and liberal talk radio.

"Liberal talk radio is a rising force in America."

As the great philosopher, Deon Sanders, once said: “If it don’t make dollars, it don’t make sense”. And liberal talk radio don’t make dollars or sense.

Let’s take a closer look at analysis of the Arbitron ratings and the financials.

In Washington, liberal talk is "not doing so well as we'd like," Hess says. With an almost imperceptible audience, according to the Arbitron ratings, WWRC, which has no local programming of its own, has suffered ever since it adopted the liberal talk format two years ago because most of the nationally syndicated shows "were more interested in preaching than in entertaining," Hess says. "Look at Limbaugh: It was from the start a fun show, with his parody spots. The left is still hesitant about having fun on the radio; you have people that really care about the ideology."


But despite Clear Channel's commitment to the two-year-old format -- the behemoth of the radio industry has 24 stations devoted to liberal talk -- the ratings numbers have been weak in most cities. WWRC's ratings numbers are so tiny that the data do not provide useful information about who makes up the station's audience.


Air America is in dire financial shape, according to its filings in bankruptcy court, where the company sought protection from its creditors in October. The company owes $458,000 to Clear Channel; $327,000 in back rent; $150,000 to its advertising agency; $143,000 to Arbitron, the ratings company; $63,000 to Real Networks; and hundreds of thousands more to other creditors. This past year alone, Air America ran a $13 million deficit.


The network is involved in court battles with its affiliates and employees, and it has run through executives at a startling pace.


With or without prominent hosts, Air America has proved to be an environment that advertisers find unattractive. In October, ABC Radio informed its stations that they were to black out all ads from almost 90 companies that had bought time from ABC but did "not wish to air on any Air America affiliates." The list of companies that wanted to steer clear of Air America programs included Hewlett-Packard, Microsoft, McDonald's, Cingular, Visa, Wal-Mart, Exxon Mobil, the U.S. Postal Service and the Navy.


Although many of the companies on the list advertise on conservative talk programs such as the Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly shows, Hewlett-Packard issued a statement explaining that its decision to avoid Air America was based on its desire to steer clear of "inappropriate or controversial programming environments."

by KenTX on 02/09/2007 12:39:54 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Reasons for your numbers (none / 0)
Who's growing in listenership on the liberal end?  Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann and Mike Malloy.  Who's having financial solvency problems?  Everyone on the Air America bandwagon.

The reason AA is failing is bad management and bad content.  One can only listen to Randi be shrill and Sam Seder be smugly annoying for so long.  Doesn't mean all liberal talk radio is a bad bet.

I hope the Turks jump ship soon.  Their network just sold for 4.1 million dollars.  BAD MOJO.

by jarett on 02/09/2007 04:30:10 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Mike Malloy is cuddly like a puppy (none / 0)
AAR is a great place for The Young Turks.

Mike Malloy isn't "shrill"?

by Left Is Right on 02/09/2007 02:47:58 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Conservative blather (none / 0)
The only reason conservatives don't want Liberal talk radio to succeed is that they are afraid of the message. They know that Americans have to be lied to 24/7 in order for them to buy into the conservative dogma

The fact that AAR is in financial trouble has nothing to do with the message.  Delta is in bankruptcy and people STILL want to fly.

A

by Left Is Right on 02/09/2007 02:44:44 PM EST

[ Parent ]
conservative logic (none / 0)
"The only reason conservatives don't want Liberal talk radio to succeed is that they are afraid of the message. They know that Americans have to be lied to 24/7 in order for them to buy into the conservative dogma."
 
I'm a conservative, and I want liberal talk radio to succeed. So does twba. Both of us went to a lot of effort to listen to Mike Malloy when he was on the radio in Chicago and Atlanta.

Both KenTX and twba are loyal TYT listeners. You might be surprised to know that KenTX is a charter member of The Young Turks.

In order for liberal talk radio to succeed, it must be packaged in a form that appeals to conservatives. The reason is because conservatives listen to talk radio much more than liberals. If you want to improve liberal Arbitron ratings, the best way is to attract conservatives.

Simply stated, if you want to succeed, don't be like Randi Rhodes. Be funny, like The Young Turks.

by KenTX on 02/11/2007 12:31:15 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Bright antenna bristle with the energy (none / 0)
Be funny, like The Young Turks.

Isn't that Rush's secret? His show is centered around discussions of political issues. He has a conservative viewpoint. But the humor sets his show apart from the rest. He came up with the feminazi updates and the other jokes that kept people listening.

The only reason conservatives don't want Liberal talk radio to succeed is that they are afraid of the message.

Remember the "Flush Rush" bumper stickers? There were unsuccessful efforts to get Limbaugh kicked off the air in many markets. Rush haters boycotted orange juice that was advertised on his show. What were the people behind those bumper stickers, petitions and boycotts so afraid of?

by Twba on 02/11/2007 11:49:37 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Emotional feedback on a timeless wavelength (none / 0)
"Isn't that Rush's secret?"

The secret to Rush's success was in the lyrics, and having a singer with a testosterone deficiency, like Jeff Scott Soto of Journey.

"What were the people behind those bumper stickers, petitions and boycotts so afraid of?"
 
The same thing these people are afraid of. A dissenting point of view.



by KenTX on 02/11/2007 08:19:55 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Rush to judgement (none / 0)
The secret to Rush's success was in the lyrics...

I always figured the high pitched voice was the weakest part.

by Twba on 02/16/2007 11:49:58 AM EST

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Hes full of shit (none / 0)
Flush Rush meant he is full of shit.
Anyone that has listened to him for more than 10 min knows that.  The truth has nothing to do with his show.  His show is "entertainment".

by Left Is Right on 02/15/2007 12:57:45 PM EST

[ Parent ]
El Rushbo (none / 0)
His show is "entertainment."

So, the defenders of the freedom of expression were circulating petitions to silence entertainment. You think we need government imposed balance in the entertainment industry?

by Twba on 02/15/2007 04:05:38 PM EST

[ Parent ]
sorry (none / 0)
I think some conservative bloggers are looking for excuses

by Left Is Right on 02/16/2007 07:56:27 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Endless compromises shatter the illusion (none / 0)
Isn't your defending censorship of entertainment an ultra-conservative act? Liberals defend freedom of expression.

by Twba on 02/16/2007 09:02:38 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Straw Man Warning! (none / 0)

I might have missed it but where did anyone advocate censoring Rush (or anyone else) in this thread????

The only person I saw bring that up was you. 

by ProfRich on 02/16/2007 09:47:32 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Venezuelan recipe (none / 0)
ProfRich: I might have missed it but where did anyone advocate censoring Rush (or anyone else) in this thread????

Left is Right: Dem's don't need to whine all they have to do is re enact the fairness doctrine.

The threat of revocation of a station's license if it violates an arbitrary standard of fairness is the sign of a banana republic, not the freest nation on Earth.

by Twba on 02/16/2007 11:00:09 AM EST

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Fairness is a bad thing? (none / 0)
To bad fairness and openness are American ideals that you don't agree with.

by Left Is Right on 02/16/2007 07:52:56 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Lefty Righty (none / 0)
The Fairness Doctrine is to fairness as the Patriot Act is to patriotism.

by Twba on 02/17/2007 05:16:44 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Fairness (none / 0)
Fairness is allowing the market to choose between a variety of broadcasters such as Mike Malloy, Rush Limbaugh, The Young Turks, Sean Hannity, Ed Schultze, Michael Savage, Sam Seder, Bill O'Reilly.

Fairness is allowing the market to determine who succeeds and who fails.

If liberal talk radio is unable to attract listeners, because liberal political philosophy is inherently weak and illogical, the government shouldn't subsidize&nb sp;unviable businesses on perpetual life support.

by KenTX on 02/17/2007 06:44:50 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Oh No! (none / 0)

I completely agree with Ken here!!!

Of course this also explains the collapse in Fox News ratings, doesn't it, Ken? 

by ProfRich on 02/17/2007 10:22:38 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Thank God For My Opponents! (none / 0)
“Of course this also explains the collapse in Fox News ratings, doesn't it, Ken?” 

Well, let’s have a look at January Nielsen numbers.

Looks pretty good to me. FoxNews in much better shape than CNN or MSNBC.

Not only do the liberal cable news networks have microscopic ratings, but their viewership is comprised of profoundly stupid people.

Uh Rich, anytime you want to express another idea, I welcome the exchange.

by KenTX on 02/17/2007 03:07:06 PM EST

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Ken the Kalculator (none / 0)

Two things wrong with your argument.

1) According to you and the other cons here Fox is righty and everything else is an agent of the reds.  So to determine which side people are on by what news they watch you would have to take Fox and compare them to every other news show combined.  Including the networks.  And we can see that Fox is getting pounded like Ken in the last shower stall at his creepy old guy gym.

2) I said the ratings were collapsing.  So Ken brilliantly relies on a one month snapshot to deceive our fellow posters.  Collapse is a dynamic term indicating movement.  This cannot be ascertained with a static picture, Ken.  Ask an engineer, they can break it down for you.  There is a smart one on this board somewhere.  They are collasping, you are either a really bad researcher or trying to fool us.

3) Oh yeah, and the data is misleading

by ProfRich on 02/18/2007 12:07:01 AM EST

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Rush Limbaugh (none / 0)
I believe Rush reads emails during breaks, and occasionally talks about them when he returns from break. Most of the emails he talks about are silly or absurd observations from emailers about what he had just finished talking about.

by acroso on 02/04/2007 02:08:02 PM EST

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Who cares what that big fat liar does? (none / 0)
Flush Rush

by Left Is Right on 02/07/2007 01:06:51 PM EST

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Get over it and be happy (none / 0)
Someone throwing a tantrum because they where treated like anyone else that called in, is not the end of the world in my opinion. Change is inevitable, TYT chose to move to terrestrial radio and be a part of AAR. I along with a multitude of other listeners that had never heard of them before are happy they did.




by Left Is Right on 02/09/2007 07:48:41 PM EST

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What happened to your phone call policy????? | 50 comments (50 topical, 0 hidden)
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