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Good article. its a travesty, the repugs/Bush Co profess to be "pro troops" yet have no problem putting them in harms way for purely political reasons. Refusing to take them out of harms way because of arrogance .  Bush has never been to a soldier's funeral. They wont allow pictures of flag draped coffins to be shown. They cut funding for wounded soldiers. On and On.

by Left Is Right on 04/23/2007 10:23:23 PM EST


Me thinks the troops are beginning to understand just what a two-faced piece of crap their commander-in-chief really is.

I've heard many say that they are fighting for their buddies alongside them.

I sure as hell don't think they are fighting for GW. 

by MountainMan on 04/23/2007 10:45:36 PM EST

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Yeah, we're pretty good at remembering numerals.  It's slippery details like the identity of our attackers that we have so much trouble with.  This image could be interpreted in a way that is not at all helpful to the rightoids:  "We remember 9/11 a great deal better than our walnut-brained commander in chief does; the dumbass sent us to fucking Iraq, for chrissakes!"

by OneHitKill on 04/24/2007 09:38:20 AM EST

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YEAH, you tell 'em, buddy! 

BytchBang is SO my friend (and SO not the same person as me)!  Someday he'll cut that "wife" loose and get with ME.

What is love? 

Baby don't hurt me no more 

by chuzlyfe on 04/24/2007 09:57:38 AM EST

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It also says INCLUDING TROLLS..  YOU Should have been gone a looooooong time ago

by Left Is Right on 04/24/2007 04:07:45 PM EST

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“Dave, I know this forum is your's to control or not control as you see fit. I try to bring more to the table than just taunting and ridicule. So, if you want to allow postings such as these by Tiny, and One Hit, etc. it's up to you. I'm just asking if you agree with me.”

When Cenk tells me to dial it down, like this, I sharply salute and then dial it down, like this.

I totally respect Cenk’s and Dave’s prerogative in making the rules, because after all, they own the website. If they want to maintain a friendly, wholesome, pleasant blogging atmosphere, then all participants should support them.

But when they allow Leftist Reicht to behave badly, it sends the wrong message to the forum.

By the way BB, you shouldn’t get all bent about Jesse the One Hit Killer. He’s just fukkin with you, and having some fun. This forum is like a computer game to him, and we’re the opposition. Once you start appreciating his sense of humor, his posts can be quite entertaining.

by KenTX on 04/24/2007 04:43:35 PM EST

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I know you've been told, BB, but surely you remember this has all happened before:

1)  OneHitKill and BytchBang's respective brands of irreverence clash head-on.

2)  BytchBang gets angry, OneHitKill does not.

3)  BytchBang appeals to Dave for support, OneHitKill does not.

4)  BytchBang says, "Screw you guys, I'm going home" and storms off the playground, red-faced and wet-nosed, only to return two hours later after being sternly told by his mom to "play nice."

If Dave or Cenk or any Young Turk tells me I need to "be at a two" or that my posts are too mean or just not funny in the slightest, I'll take that to heart.  But if they haven't yelled at Left Is Right yet, I doubt they'll come after me.

"By the way BB, you shouldn’t get all bent about Jesse the One Hit Killer."

Ken's right.  There are literally hundreds of better reasons for you to get bent.

by OneHitKill on 04/24/2007 11:15:06 PM EST

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"Let the math speak for itself, as for which is the party of hope, determination, optimism and a can do attitude... and which is the party of doom and gloom, denial, negativity and ridicule."

I am optimistic that America will prevail in the war against Islamic Jihad.

I am optimistic that the American economy will continue to expand and create wealth for everyone who wants to participate.

I am optimistic that science will meet the challenges of mankind's growing demand for food and energy and health care and resources.

I am optimistic that America's free market economy will provide Americans with a standard of living that will be the envy of the world.

I am optimistic that America's superior military strength will continue to bring freedom to the people of the world.

I am optimistic that the new technologies of tomorrow will be created in America.

Now then, tell us what liberals are optimistic about.

by KenTX on 04/25/2007 08:48:27 PM EST

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So am I....just because I don't agree with you on each and every issue and  how these things will be accomplished doesn't make me

  • a traitor.
  • a socialist
  • anti-American
  • a murder
  • a terrorist sympathizer

and all the other bellicose insults that fly around this forum....Now about Bytch,he has his own agenda...

Let the math speak for itself, as for which is the party of hope, determination, optimism and a can do attitude... and which is the party of doom and gloom, denial, negativity and ridicule."

Now thats funny !   Oh...I know when the Bytch openly states that TYT members are

    " my treasonist,  seditious political enemies"

that must be a heretofore unknown type of hope, determination, optimism and can do attitude. Like these gems

    Dave's (yturk's) indifference to people so many of the constructive criticisms of this forum and, given the treasonous and seditious nature of the TURKS themselves,

    Thanks, for the most part, to the efforts of the Liberal left. Who through seditious and practically treasonist efforts, have undercut the missions in Iraq. 

     I believe that the way the leftoids provide comfort to our enemies by undermining our President and the missions of our troops to be tantamount to treason.
    tell me how sedition this instance (the political left seeking an American defeat in Iraq) is anything less than treasonous.

    I'll be swinging on that GOP lever like every seditious - treasonous lefty on the planet is swinging from the other end by their necks.

 
That's just for starters.... get your spreadsheets out. 

One more note to Bytch...

At least I'm not an obsessed stalker that literally clings onto their perceived target's every word

if you have an issue with people remembering what you post on this forum...don't post anything, that will solve all your problems.

As my grandpa told me

say what you mean...mean what you say. 

by MRFred on 04/25/2007 09:22:05 PM EST

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Your assignment is to tell us what you are optimistic about. It should be a list of positive develpments (nationwide and worldwide) that you are anticipating with hope.

Let's take away the easy one by disallowing the replacement of George W Bush with a Democrat president.

This is a challenge to all liberals. Share your optimism with us! Come on now!

 

by KenTX on 04/25/2007 09:35:06 PM EST

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Which is it, a challenge to liberals like Ken said, or a challenge to impartial members like BytchBang said?  Either way, I don't think I qualify exactly.

by OneHitKill on 04/25/2007 10:16:05 PM EST

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I just remembered, I already answered Bytchard Bang's question here.  And more than half a year before he asked it, no less!  How prescient of me.

by OneHitKill on 04/26/2007 07:16:12 AM EST

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Listen, Bytchy pooh, if you want to come play with the big boys and girls you have to learn to act like a big boy.

This constant whiny crap of "Dave! Dave! They're being mean to me!!!" is really getting old.

We have explained this to you, and Tiny, and a few other participants who visited from time to time, all of who evidently rode the short bus to school, but I'll try one more time. THIS ISN'T YOUR TYPICAL FORUM!!!!!

Everyone is welcome, we sometimes get rowdy, we like mix it up, if you show weakness by whining like a Bytch, then no one will feel sorry for you, and everyone will know just what button to push to set you off.

So quit throwing like a girl, learn to play like a man, or go to a frue, frue site where your delicate nature will not be so easily offended.

Jesus Ken I thought all you conservatives were supposed to be rough and tough cowboy manly men, and this guy whines like a Bytch every time someone throws a jab his way.

It occurs to me that I may have insulted Bytch, and Bytch is a vet so I must be insulting all the vets and I know Tim's a vet so I must be insulting Tim for which I apologize because I would never intentionally insult Tim, but wait I'm a vet, I must be insulting myself. Do I dare offer myself forgiveness for the insult I have laid upon myself.

Con logic can be so tiring.........

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 04/25/2007 10:37:22 PM EST

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I guess I shouldn't ridicule myself. I'm such a hater....

by MRFred on 04/25/2007 10:59:57 PM EST

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"It occurs to me that I may have insulted Bytch, and Bytch is a vet so I must be insulting all the vets and I know Tim's a vet so I must be insulting Tim for which I apologize because I would never intentionally insult Tim, but wait I'm a vet, I must be insulting myself. Do I dare offer myself forgiveness for the insult I have laid upon myself."

All you guys are Vets: Hubble, Fred, Bytch, Twba, Tim, Adam, RedRaven, and the lady from Alabama. Actually, BigSkyChild was a one-woman special forces assault unit who single-handedly destroyed entire Taliban armies in Afghanistan.

All of this makes me feel inadequate and unworthy in your presence. The only thing I ever did to earn my citizenship was to help stoke the Big American Economic Blast Furnace. The problem is that I was paid handsomely for my services, so it doesn't really count.

You guys sacrificed so that I could enjoy freedom. That makes me feel more like Tiny, and less like a "rough and tough cowboy manly man".

by KenTX on 04/25/2007 11:03:19 PM EST

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Your ignorance is actually amusing. You are so narrow minded , bigoted ,and ignorant. Your posts are comical typical red neck brain dead Texan. Breathing all the benzine from the oil refineries.




Esera Tuaolo gay football player. Hey what do you think about what Cenk said what liberals are and what conservatives are?  heh...  it was absolutely right on.

by Left Is Right on 04/25/2007 11:28:47 PM EST

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"Your ignorance is actually amusing. You are so narrow minded , bigoted ,and ignorant. Your posts are comical typical red neck brain dead Texan. Breathing all the benzene from the oil refineries."

I think about you all day long.

Would you please send me a photo?

by KenTX on 04/25/2007 11:31:58 PM EST

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He's not kidding, dude.  Run away NOW.

by OneHitKill on 04/26/2007 06:59:13 AM EST

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I wasn't kidding either.. he is a typical right wing moron. Narrow minded. Ignorant  bigot.  Liberals don't run away .. They fight for what is right.  Reference what Cenk said on the subject.

I'm from California so the gay bashing thing looks a little stupid to me. As it does in most of the civilized world.

by Left Is Right on 04/26/2007 12:10:24 PM EST

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Is he:

(A) Limp wristed?

(B) Limp dick?

(C) Limp brained?

(D) Limp muscled?

(E) all of the above?

by KenTX on 04/26/2007 04:45:13 PM EST

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None of the above.  He'll be walking with a limp after falling victim to your mating ritual.

by OneHitKill on 04/26/2007 10:18:22 PM EST

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Why do I get the impression this " question" is like the old football trick...

by MRFred on 04/25/2007 10:54:04 PM EST

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"Why do I get the impression this " question" is like the old football trick."

I wanted to prove to you guys that BB is correct. Liberals, by their very nature, are pessimistic about the future. Conservatives, by contrast, are optimistic about the future.

This dichotomy is not a new phenomenon that developed in the 21st century. It has been like this forever.

by KenTX on 04/25/2007 11:10:26 PM EST

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BB is full of shit. That really wasn't the point of his post. He was simply bitching about OHK and other trivial crap and came up with that childish " Im making a list" nana nana boo boo. Talk about whining...

Conservitard blogs  columns and other Conservatard web sites are full of the most bellicose negative vitriol I have ever read..."liberals" have not cornered that market.

Theres a thin line between " irrational exuberance" and optimism. Its easy to claim to be an optimist when you just ignore the problems we face or simple refuse to acknowledge any problems exist at all.

 

 

by MRFred on 04/25/2007 11:52:04 PM EST

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"Its easy to claim to be an optimist when you just ignore the problems we face or simple refuse to acknowledge any problems exist at all."
 
I'm not kidding. I really am optimistic about the future. You and me and Hubble and Tim and twba will all be dead 40 years from now, and yet I remain bullish on America.

A man can achieve anything he wants in this country. We are a nation of achieivers.

Are you not optimistic about anything? 

by KenTX on 04/26/2007 12:06:16 AM EST

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It proves Im not going to fall into th rhetoric trap you set....

Ken..I'm 62 years old.......I'm missing parts...I've almost been killed 3 times in accidents at sea. Ive been laid off 4 times. I've been robbed at gun point. My wife was in a bank robbery and the robber pointed his weapon and pulled the trigger on his gun, and it didn't go off. I survived a hurricane at sea in a 110ft patrol craft. My father died suddenly one day. Just dropped dead. My mother is dying of Alzheimer's. My sister died when I was very small in a car accident.

I spent 26 years in the Navy and have seen the entire world...the beauty and the power of nature; the power for good and evil of man. I run my own business....I have 2 great children...more grandkids on the way. I have the worlds best wife. I cut my grass in a tangerine speedo just to irritate my  mega church neighbor. My 12 year old cat Scooter is 203-65 in picking football games including the last 4 Super bowls( I say a teams name and he meows for the winner)

I get up every morning thinking today will be a better day than yesterday, this week better than last week. Frankly its kind silly to make a laundry list of " why I'm and optimist and your not". I simply think there are a lot of very smart people out there working on a lot of interesting things ( scientific social political whatever..)that will positively impact me and my families future.For example,  I just read an article about re polymerization of waste material to make synthetic oil...its almost there...the cost is 80$ a barrel now they are working on lower the cost of production..never heard of that before...thats what I'm talking about.

What more do you need me to say?

Now being said not every thing is peaches and cream ( other than the football picks) . Its also equally as silly to claim that when a person points out problems and issues that could be improved , it is somehow indicative that they are pessimists ; politically and morally inferior and infer that they are unpatriotic because they point out these things.

Its easy to be optimistic about the broad banal generalities that are Republican politics while brushing aside the devilish details...Iraq is a prime example of that.

Thats the nature of these forums. You know that.  I would say that if you want happy thoughts go to the Sesame Street website.

by MRFred on 04/26/2007 08:13:26 AM EST

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Yours is a satisfaction that can only be had through intellectual masturbation. 

We had a discussion similar to this before you were "born" on this forum, Bytchard.  Maybe that's why your so-called point has been lost forever without a trace.  I can't find the link right now, but it happened.  Somebody contended that progressives suffer from depression, but it turned out to be this weird type of depression that only self-hating right wing zombies can perceive.  From there we addressed the question, "Is it real depression if it only exists in the eyes of the beholder?"  From that, the more famous philosophical axiom, about the tree falling in the woods with nobody to hear it, came to be.

by OneHitKill on 04/26/2007 09:40:48 AM EST

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that I have the best date in the TYT pool. I'm counting the money now....

by MRFred on 04/26/2007 08:54:53 PM EST

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"I have 2 great children...more grandkids on the way."

Then we share the same reason for optimism. We want to leave a great country to our descendants.

My vision of a Great America is the richest, most powerful, most free, most opportunity rich, most advanced nation on earth.

Your vision for a Great America might involve words like justice and fairness and compassion.

I just hope that America's de sire for a "fair" society never restricts the freedom and opportunity of people who want to improve their lives. 

by KenTX on 04/27/2007 01:14:19 AM EST

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I was wondering when someone would read  the post.

 


by MRFred on 04/28/2007 06:49:40 AM EST

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I think Bytch is Chuz's relative, possibly his son.

by jarett on 04/24/2007 05:15:34 PM EST

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  The terrorists that attacked on 9-11 where from Saudi Arabia

Iraq has absolutely ZERO to do with 9-11.



 


by Left Is Right on 04/24/2007 04:06:12 PM EST

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1. Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11
2. Iraq has never had anything to do with 9/11
3. Iraq was not invaded so we could " fight them over there"
4. Because  there is resistance to the American occupation of Iraq by Iraqis. That  the country has degenrated into  a civil war. That American guys are dying because the president lied.  IN NO WAY MAKES AMERICA SAFER

by Left Is Right on 04/24/2007 07:23:50 PM EST

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