Potential 1 million voters returning to the voter pool in Florida... what if they vote Democrat??

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  1. Welcome Florida to the modern age. But long live the Dirty Dirty South. ("The board voted 3-1 with Attorney General Bill McCollum, another Republican, strongly objecting")

  2. Is Crist really Republican or are the rest of them so far right, he just looks liberal? From chain-gang Charlie to restoring voting rights, pushing environmental causes, paper-trails, and the insurance crisis (that last one must be a nightmare) - no wonder Florida always LOVES their governers.

  3. Guilini, talking about drilling off of Florida's Gulf coast is a sure-fire way to lose our state support - even in the 6th burrough. Kiss those electoral votes good bye.

I would like to welcome Florida to the modern age. I am glad we have taken another step away from the old southern states and jim crowe mentality. ("Florida is one of just three states, all in the Deep South, that have constitutional barriers to restoring civil rights to those who have committed serious crimes, rights groups say.")

I know in the past you could jump through hoops and do tricks on command in an attempt to get your right to vote restored. Most people I know didn't bother. ("The clemency board, which meets four times a year, has a backlog of more than 35,000 requests.")


TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Gov. Charlie Crist is set to square off with other state officials over his proposal to end the practice of stripping ex-convicts of their civil rights, including the right to vote.

Following up on a campaign promise that puts him at odds with many in his Republican Party, Crist must win the backing of at least two colleagues on the four-member Florida Board of Executive Clemency, which is to hold a special session Thursday to address the issue.

Florida is one of just three states, all in the Deep South, that have constitutional barriers to restoring civil rights to those who have committed serious crimes, rights groups say.

Civil rights groups note that, compared to the general population, felons are more likely to be from lower income and minority groups, which traditionally vote Democratic.

Crist's efforts on the behalf of felons is just one of a host of ways he has distinguished himself from Bush, the president's younger brother, in his first three months in office.

He has hosted a meeting on global warming, sought ways to reduce hurricane insurance bills and tried to introduce paper trails for electronic voting--all issues Bush declined to act on.

Florida law currently requires most felons to wait five years after they finish serving their sentences before petitioning the clemency board to get back their right to vote, own a gun, sit on a jury or perform other civic duties.

The board, which meets four times a year, has a backlog of more than 35,000 requests.

Any plan would likely allow most non-violent convicted felons to regain their rights upon their release without a hearing as long as fines or restitution was paid. Hearings would still be required for most violent offenders.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id 17952056

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Here is a breakdown of state laws concerning voting rights for ex-cons.


Democrats will do anything to generate more votes, including fighting against Voter ID laws.

by KenTX on 04/06/2007 03:04:49 AM EST


Anything it takes to wrestle the country out of the hands of these facists  is ok with me.

by Left Is Right on 04/07/2007 04:21:06 PM EST

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What does anything include? Does anything include dictatorships like Noriega, Chavez, Stalin and other communists who enforce their agenda against the will of the people?

by acroso on 04/07/2007 04:47:29 PM EST

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yea.. it includes anything.. anything like stealing elections.. swift boating.. smear and fear.. 

by Left Is Right on 04/07/2007 07:24:54 PM EST

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By Swift boating, do you mean the most decorated veteran in the last 100 years other than MacArthur telling the truth about John Kerry?

 

 How many men in Kerry's unit endorsed John Kerry again? KenTX would know. I think zero of his comrades endorsed Kerry and they all wanted Bush to win. Most of them despised Kerry as much as they did the communists they were fighting and the Islamists of today because they knew he was on their side. They knew Kerry was lying to the American people and endorsing the enemy so they had just cause to torture American POWs and so the media would have ammunition to undermine the war back home. Kerry is back to his old tricks again today.

 

That’s why they were called veterans for truth.

by acroso on 04/07/2007 08:25:58 PM EST

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Swiftboating is American political jargon for an ad hominem attack usually resulting in a benefit to an established political force.

This form of attack is controversial, easily repeatable, and difficult to verify or disprove because it is generally based on personal feelings or recollections. It frequently refers to a campaign that uses viral marketing techniques to sell the allegations. By using credible-sounding sources to make sensational and difficult-to-disprove accusations against an opponent, the campaign leverages media tendencies to focus on a controversial story.


by Left Is Right on 04/08/2007 06:08:47 AM EST

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It was totally honest. Kerry's comrades think he was unfit for command, and they felt they had to speak out.

 There is a reason no one who served with Kerry could support him.

by acroso on 04/08/2007 12:59:18 PM EST

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Facts  do not support the swift boat suppositions. FACTS you know. Those things that aren't made up to support your ideology.

by Left Is Right on 04/08/2007 01:18:44 PM EST

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Do you think that when all his fellow comrades think he was unfit for command they should have been forced to stay silent?

 

Most Americans found it telling that no one that served with Kerry could possibly support his canidacy, and this was one reason why Americans rejected John Kerry.

by acroso on 04/08/2007 02:01:07 PM EST

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Yes guys and gals, boys and girls, it's Acroso's Bizarro world were reality never visits. It's Bizarro world were only rightwing talking points are allowed. Yes, Bizarro world were our friend Acroso expels for th the most outlandish statements, never once coming near the truth.
Step right up but don't get to close as management cannot be responsible for the occasional errant spray of fecal matter that may spew forth.

Fact none of the Veterans in the Swift Boat ad served on Kerry’s boat.

Fact Three veterans on Kerry's boat on the day in question - Jim Rassmann (who says Kerry saved his life), Gene Thorson and Del Sandusky (the driver on Kerry's boat) - said the group was lying.

Fact Kerry was supported by 12 of his crewmates (all of who actually served on the boat with him) who stood on stage with him when he gave his acceptance speech at the DNC, along with registered Republican ex-marine Jim Rassman whose life Kerry saved in Viet Nam.
Not to mention Max Cleveland a man who lost three limbs in Viet Nam in the service of his country while Shrub was having his teeth cleaned in Alabama, yet the cons still find time to smear. Along with retired Army Gen. John M. Shalikashvili, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Wesley K. Clark, among a group of retired military officers.

Fact Acroso wouldn't recognize one if hit him in the head like a 2x4.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 04/08/2007 04:54:59 PM EST

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We've already done the Max Cleland thing.

by KenTX on 04/08/2007 07:39:56 PM EST

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So if someone is injured in an accident while serving their country in Viet Nam, while others have their teeth cleaned in Alabama it means less.

Of course while Ken tells you what medals Max didn't recieve he also fails to tell you what medals Max did recieve He was awarded the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for valorous action in combat, including during the Battle of Khe Sanh on April 4th, 1968. He was injured on April 8th 1968.

I wonder what the chances of a gernade accidentally blowing off both legs and an arm of someone sitting in a dentist chair, compared to someone stationed in the hottest zone in vietnam.

Of course Ken and others have slimed Max saying it was his own fault but let's see what someone who was there has to say
The 2nd of the 12th Cavalry was engaged in a combat operation at the time of this incident. Max Cleland was with the Battalion Forward Command Post in heavy combat involving the attack of the 1st Cavalry Division up the valley to relieve the Marines who were besieged and surrounded at the Khe Shan Firebase. The whole surrounding area was an active combat zone (some might call the entire country of Vietnam a combat zone). (Is Iraq a combat zone?) Max, the Battalion Signal Officer, was engaged in a combat mission I personally ordered to increase the effectiveness of communications between the battalion combat forward and rear support elements: e.g. Erect a radio relay antenna on a mountain top. By the way, at one point the battalion rear elements came under enemy artillery fire so everyone was in harms way.

As they were getting off the helicopter, Max saw the grenade on the ground and he instinctively went for it. Soldiers in combat don't leave grenades lying around on the ground. Later, in the hospital, he said he thought it was his own but I doubt the concept of "ownership" went through his mind in the split seconds involved in reaching for the grenade. Nearly two decades later another soldier came forward and admitted it was actually his grenade. Does ownership of the grenade really matter? It does not.

Maury Cralle'
Battalion Executive Officer
2d/12th Cavalry Battalion
1st Air Cavalry Division
During the assault on Khe Shan


I do love Cons, they use the troops as back drops for their speaches, but let any who served honorably disagree or dare challenge their position and they will resort to the most shameful lies to smear their service.

Keep posting Ken it show your TRUE colors when it comes to the brave men and women who serve.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 04/08/2007 10:57:15 PM EST

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I think he WAS hit in the head by a 2x 4

by Left Is Right on 04/08/2007 07:45:46 PM EST

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Well he's talking about non-violent offenders so that's not too unreasonable.

by acroso on 04/06/2007 09:17:00 AM EST


... including instituting senseless voter ID laws.

Voter fraud is not a significant problem.  Conspiarcy to prevent people from voting is.

Aside from Ann Coulter, what evidence do you have of people voting illegallly?

by Avedon on 04/07/2007 12:29:34 PM EST


Forgot 2006 already have you? Remember you don't need papers to vote.

"Everybody can help. You can all help. You don't need papers for voting, you don't need to be a registered voter to help."-Democrat Francine Busby at a illegal immigrant rally to get their votes in her 2006 election campaign

 

by acroso on 04/07/2007 01:43:43 PM EST

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"What evidence do you have of people voting illegally?"
 
The fact that Democrats like you are desperately fighting to prevent voters from showing their drivers license when they go to the polls to vote.

What are you afraid of? That the name on the voter registration card must actually match the name on the drivers license?

by KenTX on 04/07/2007 08:50:10 PM EST

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We took the House the Senate and will take the presidency. The repug party is in chaos and is coming apart at the seams in scandal after scandal. Afraid? The word is gleeful

What Democrats are afraid of is that repugs are trying to use voter ID cards as a way to keep poor and black folk from voting because they know they wont vote repug. Gosh wonder why? 

by Left Is Right on 04/08/2007 06:14:54 AM EST

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"What Democrats are afraid of is that repugs are trying to use voter ID cards as a way to keep poor and black folk from voting because they know they wont vote repug."

What person in America does not already have a drivers license? The states that have enacted Voter ID provide free identification cards to the rare person who needs one.

by KenTX on 04/08/2007 09:48:21 AM EST

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People who ride buses .  You want  jews to wear a yellow star too? 

by Left Is Right on 04/08/2007 12:19:07 PM EST

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dems seem to like raising money now days that they raised 60% more than R's in the first quarter.

by acroso on 04/08/2007 10:59:06 PM EST


Is there a point to that post, other than the timer went off to remind you to post and you had nothing to say but you did remember the last thing you heard on Faux news, so you just went with that?

Wow, Acroso figured it out all by himself, Dems like to raise money. Congratulations Sparky that was a great bit of investigative work.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 04/08/2007 11:19:20 PM EST

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