08/18/2007 02:15:40 PM EST

NSA Judge: 'I feel like I'm in Alice and Wonderland'

posted by MedfordTim

Ryan Singel and David Kravets blog from the U.S. 9th Circuit hearing on the NSA's spying, and AT&T's alleged complicity, Aug 15.

An unbelievable example of Doublespeak In Action.

"In the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation case, Assistant U.S. Attorney General Thomas Bondy also says the case should be tossed. "The state secrets privilege requires dismissal of this case."

"Whether the foundation's lawyers were spied upon, which is the subject of the case, "Is itself a state secret," Bondy argues."

But, No, the Government will NOT sign a statement DENYING that the warrantless wiretapping exists(ed). Just trust Alberto and George that it never happened...

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The latest Flash is needed for the video, available here.

The Government's attorney says the defendent's case is invalid because it's a State Secret whether they are being spied upon, they can't know that they are being spied upon, therefore they can't sue for being spied upon.

A lower court already decided that the document that was inadvertanly given to the defendents which showed they were being spied upon is "secret and classified," so now the government is arguing that the person who saw and read the document shouldn't testify because he can't produce the document that he refers to.

Whaaaa???

Judge McKeown: "I feel like I'm in Alice and Wonderland."

Welcome to the club, Judge...

I downloaded the video so I could replay the looks on the Judge's faces over and over. High-Larry-Us!
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Memo to our friends in Congress (none / 0)

The NSA stuff is so outrageouos that conservatives from John Ashcroft to right wing judges to right wing constitutional scholars have all recognized it to be an illegal assault on the constitution and the very model of an impeachable offense.

But apparently no one told the Democrats. 

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Nancy Pelosi for President in 2007

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by SeattleJoe on 08/18/2007 04:20:04 PM EST

Balderdash (none / 0)
"The president’s constitutional authority is inviolable — it cannot be reduced by mere legislation."

Seig heil, y'all!

by MedfordTim on 08/18/2007 08:18:33 PM EST

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I hope the Democrats kick it up a notch (none / 0)
The conservatives are surrender monkeys. They all to easily give up civil rights and liberties. In my opinion the Democrats are the only thing that stands between what the founding fathers envisioned and  George Orwell's worst nightmare. So far the Democrats aren't doing a very good job.

by Zak on 08/18/2007 10:54:17 PM EST

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You're not a conservative... (none / 0)

... you're a crypto-fascist, sociopathic, racist who is obviously very nervous about his sexuality.

In fact, only sick wackos like your sorry self are still defending Bush.

You really need to get laid, dickwad.

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Nancy Pelosi for President in 2007

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by SeattleJoe on 08/22/2007 07:16:44 PM EST

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audio worked fine (none / 0)
The video didnt stream for me. But the audio worked fine.
I post about the stream though because the video never lanuched . I dont have a right to mention it if I never saw it. I'm not surprised Bush Co.  would try to come up with any excuse. Its all about the unitary executive.

by Zak on 08/19/2007 11:43:58 AM EST

video troubles (none / 0)
I had the same problem until I upgraded the Flash (a plus - Comedy Central works for me again now, too!) but if you'd rather download the WMV there is a link on the left side of the page the video is on.

HTH

by MedfordTim on 08/19/2007 12:42:12 PM EST

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Thanks (none / 0)
Thanks, I'll download a newer version and see how it works out for me.

by Zak on 08/19/2007 02:00:51 PM EST

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Thanks (none / 0)
Thanks, I'll download a newer version and see how it works out for me.

by Zak on 08/19/2007 02:01:07 PM EST

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