What the hell Florida? What the hell DNC?

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it really is a wangWhat the hell Florida?  First we have the craptastic closed primaries and then you want to screw over half the voters?  And what the hell DNC?  Do you not want a chance to win the white house?  Are you just trying to completely piss off the 'little man' who really doesn't have a huge say in what the state does with the primary day?

How do the Democrats punish for something the Republican legislature did?  Arg.

I think there should be a mass registration for the Republican party in Florida, and we vote in that primary for any random asshat.

It should be a decent turn out for the primary vote because of some local property tax hot button  referendums.  Are they intentionally trying to piss people off?  What the hell Florida?  Thank you sir, may I have another?

Dems:  Strip Florida of convention delegates
National party says delay the presidential primary, or else.

Mark K. Matthews

Washington Bureau

August 26, 2007

WASHINGTON

Top Democrats voted Saturday to strip Florida of its 210 delegates to next summer's presidential-nominating convention unless the state's Jan. 29 primary is delayed by at least a week.

The state party was given 30 days by the Democratic National Committee's rules panel to come up with a plan or Florida delegates would be barred from the Denver gathering.

"What the committee has done is effectively turn [the primary] into a beauty pageant," said Allan Katz, a Tallahassee city commissioner and the only member of the rules committee to vote against sanctioning state Democrats.

The confrontation with the national party was set up earlier this year when the Republican-controlled state Legislature -- anxious to boost Florida's voice in national politics -- voted to move the presidential primary from March. A Democratic Party rule bans most primaries before Feb. 5.

Karen Thurman, head of the state party, said she would confer with Florida officials about the decision but expected it to be a difficult discussion.

"It's emotional, and it should be," she said.

Republicans, who face less drastic sanctions from their party for hosting the early primary, will have little incentive to help the Democrats.

"I don't believe the Legislature is going to consider changing the primary; we're looking forward to Jan. 29," said state Republican Chairman Jim Greer. He also said he was confident he could persuade national GOP officials not to penalize the party's Florida delegates.

One option for Florida Democrats would be to choose their delegates through a state convention or caucus after Feb. 5 -- potentially giving Florida two chances to voice its opinion.

The DNC has encouraged Florida Democrats to hold a caucus, but state officials have refused. They argue turnout would be much lower on a later date and that holding a caucus could hurt the efforts of Democratic allies Jan. 29.

"The caucus continues not to be a realistic option because of the threat of [voter] disenfranchisement," said state-party spokesman Mark Bubriski.

Party rules ban states other than Iowa (Jan. 14), Nevada (Jan. 19), New Hampshire (Jan. 22) and South Carolina (Jan. 29) from holding their 2008 presidential primaries before Feb. 5. The calendar was designed to protect Iowa's and New Hampshire's clout in being first to choose a nominee. Nevada and South Carolina were added to provide racial and economic diversity.

Early decision

If election trends of the past three decades continue, both Democrats and Republicans are likely to choose their candidates long before the 2008 national conventions are held in Denver and Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minn.

So while Florida Democrats may lose their delegate votes, they could have a greater influence on the presidential race by showing the early preferences of Florida, a donor-laden swing state with 27 electoral votes.

State Democrats have estimated they could attract upward of 2 million Democratic voters to the polls on primary day, in part because it's the same day of municipal elections and a controversial property-tax referendum.

Traditional Democratic supporters such as firefighters and teachers oppose the referendum, which would increase the homestead exemption, fearing it could reduce revenues and potentially hurt government jobs and services.

"We need turnout to defeat this legislation," said Terrie Brady, one of three Florida speakers Saturday who tried to persuade the rules committee not to levy penalties against the state.

The trio also blamed a Republican statehouse for forcing them to accept the Jan. 29 primary date.

"We are asking you for mercy, not judgment," said Jon Ausman, another Florida Democrat who spoke.

It didn't happen.
(rest of the rambling article)


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Well the property tax scam is to give homestead exemption to 2cd and 3rd homes plus...a giveaway to the developer lobby, and as you know Asshats rule in Tallahassee. The real question is that graphic some sort of subliminal Viagra ad? 

 

by MRFred on 08/26/2007 06:55:27 PM EST


"I think there should be a mass registration for the Republican party in Florida, and we vote in that primary for any random asshat."

That's a good one!

I predict Florida will go GOP again in 2008. The panhandle and north are redder than ever. The FDR and Truman Democrats are quickly dying off. The transplant snow birds populating the Gulf side are monied Republicans. 


by KenTX on 08/26/2007 08:37:43 PM EST

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We all remeber your midterm prognostications...so that gives me great comfort. 

The panhandle is "red" all right...and we aren't talking politics either. As far as "monnied "republicans that is a bit of a stretch...they probably aren't monnied any more with th real estate crash.

 

by MRFred on 08/26/2007 08:54:58 PM EST

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It will be more moderate than the apocylptic tales people keep forcasting.

by acroso on 08/26/2007 09:54:10 PM EST

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I hope your right...but Florida particulalry SW Fl and the area Ken is talking about is already in a housing recession...soon to be depresion. You dont lose up to 40 % in value in real property value in a "moderate" downturn.

by MRFred on 08/26/2007 10:09:03 PM EST

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Just looking out my front door the number of houses for sale is more than I can count (on my two hands anyway.)  Even in the affluent areas we have customers in, there's at least a handful of for sale signs on every 'block.'  

I hope acroso is correct too.

by jazzchic on 08/26/2007 10:46:14 PM EST

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There is a glut of empty condo towers in Miami if anyone is looking for a deal.

by Zak on 08/26/2007 10:59:38 PM EST

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  1. It is something I think about doing every year. If anything so I stop freaking the poll worker ladies out with my 'no party' designation when I go to the primaries. "But honey, you can't really vote on many things!"  Heh.

  2. Red Florida, heh.  There is such disparity in this state. Every experience in the panhandle makes me wish Alabama would just annex that territory.

  3. Many snowbirds are leaving Florida, property taxes, home owners insurance,...  (No stats to cite, just speaking from my discussions with customers.)

by jazzchic on 08/26/2007 10:52:23 PM EST

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I agree, Pinellas county is very liberal and 15 minutes away across the causeway Tampa is conservative. As far as the panhandle aka the Redneck Riviera goes, the fact that it is conservative and always has been is not news to anyone that has lived in FL .

by Zak on 08/26/2007 11:03:02 PM EST

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but your Florida animated GIF looks like a dong.  I think I'll stay clean and stay out of this debacle....

by rev24 on 08/27/2007 03:10:42 AM EST


This Florida/DNC story is one of the weirdest political stories in a while.  I don't quite get where the DNC is coming from.  Who cares what the rule is - just change it.  It's just internal club rules anyway.

by yturks on 08/27/2007 07:04:52 AM EST


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