Regarding Cenk's Comments on Burma

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I just listened to Cenk talking about the current protest there and have some thoughts to add.

Cenk compared Iraq to Burma. One of the points I wanted to make when I was on the show was that unlike Iraq, Burma is a place where the people actually want democracy. They even went so far as to elect leaders including Aung San Suu Kyi. And yes it's painfully ironic that we put our might toward Iraq, an unjust cause, and not to Burma, where of course we could do great good.

 From what I've learned about the Burmese people, they are very patient and do not care for violence. They (and I use 'they' as a general term)  actually are calling for talks with the military gov't to reach an amicable solution. Wow. That's pretty generous given the government's past atrocities (burning down villages, raping women, slaughtering 3000 protestors in 1988, etc.).

 When I was in Thailand and meeting the Burmese refugees, I kept thinking, "I'm a peaceful man, but given  the opportiunity, I'd kill that son of a bitch leader Than Shwe." And I've only felt that way once before after watching a documentary on Joseph Kony (of the Lord's Resistance army in Uganda).

But interestingly that's not the Burmese people's approach. They want change and they want it peacefully.

After reading of Bush's condemnation of the military regime in Burma, my friend asked me today what I thought about having Bush on my side. I had a hard time answering that one. 

My friend then said, "You'd think they have oil over there." "Well they do", I told him. He rolled his eyes and said, "Well there you go."

 Maybe. Maybe there is some hope that someone of influence in our gov't is pushing for the condemnation of the military regime for something other than just oil. Something inching towards altruism.

I spiked my own bullshit detector when writing that , but here's the thing. China is Burma's biggest client. To go into Burma for the oil would mean going toe to toe, bomb to bomb, with the Chinese. I don't feel our country is there yet.

The best thing for us to do as a country at this point is to pressure China, which sits on the UN Security Council, to join in the condemnation of the military regime in Burma. An arguement has been made that without the military regime, the Burmese won't engage in trade. The opposite is true. They would gladly trade resources, they just would like to do it as a free people.

Also, China is trying to put on a good face for the '08 Olympics. They are susceptible to having their arm twisted now. 

So those are just some thoughts I had on the growing conflict in Burma. To help out, please visit http//:www.uscampaignforbur ma.org

I'll answer any questions you might have to the best of my ability.

Peace,

Andrew 

 

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  All the people in Myanamar have to do is float the rumor that there are huge quantities of oil. Bu$h will make up an excuse to come and get it. Although the country would then be occupied , permanent bases built. Maybe it is a better idea to keep the U.S out of it until we have a regime change here at home.

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 09/26/2007 10:38:12 PM EST


"Maybe it is a better idea to keep the U.S out of it until we have a regime change here at home."

Unfortunately there are people being killed and tortured now. So whatever help we as a country can provide, we must. Remember, the pressure has to be put on China. We can do that without occupying.

by Andrew Koenig on 09/26/2007 10:41:52 PM EST

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How much pressure can we put on a country like China that owns $billions in our debt, and has a large percent of our former manufacturing capability?

Yes, it will be good to help Burma. It would have been better to help Iraq instead of nearly destroying it. Do the Burmese really need that kind of help? How can we prevent the chicken hawks from invading another country instead of using diplomacy? 

By taking control of our own government, our debt, our military, we can do more to help others. Regime change at home first, and until then, keep the neocon crazies from invading Iran. 

by zenie on 09/27/2007 10:58:32 AM EST

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