Bitter about the (USA Today) Movie Critic - Rambo 4

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I've heard mixed things about the new Rambo movie. Howard Stern really loved it, and USA Today gave it one star. I just watched tonight, so I figured that I would give it a review.

Let me start off by saying I’m a pretty big Rambo and Rocky fan. Going into Rambo 4, I would say that there was no such thing as a bad Rambo movie. In fact, they all kicked some pretty serious ass. I still don’t understand why, to this day Ronald Reagan’s most famous quote isn’t “Boy, after watching Rambo, I know what to do the next time this happens.” (July 2, 1985) Rambo also temporarily played an important part in my life. I was visiting a girlfriends’ parents place for the first time. They had a tonne of movies there. There was literally over 200 VHS tapes stacked up in various cabinets. After watching some flick she wanted to watch, she asked me to pick out one. I noticed First Blood, which at that time I hadn’t seen in years. I picked that, and her father warmed up to me for the first time, as it was his favorite movie. She left the room shortly after it started to go on the computer. Rambo has that sort of effect on guys, and girls.

First of all, my criticism for the USA Today review. It was done by Claudia Puig. Claudia is obviously a woman. She is probably your average, everyday woman whom loves movies. As in my real life scenario, your typical woman is not a Rambo fan (as soon as I find one that is, I will probably marry her.) Therefore if you send in a woman to review a man’s film, it is going to get a bad review. It would be like asking me to review your typical chick flick. Truth About Cats and Dogs? Even though love Uma and Janeane, I would still give it one star tops. It was boring, stupid and predictable. I guess that’s the difference between a good guy flick, and a good chick flick. The boring part and in some cases for the best ones, the stupid part as well.

Back to Rambo now. For those of you whom haven’t seen a Rambo movie in years, and may have repressed them, let me describe a typical Rambo movie. There are three parts to a Rambo movie. The first part is the story. This gives purpose to the second part of the Rambo movie. This is where Rambo locks into Green Beret mode, and is obvious as to why the Rambo movies are famous. This is where he stalks, sets traps, disables his opponents, survives the wilderness, blows stuff up, and from number 2 on, kills a lot of people. The last part is of course the end, which wraps up each story, and gives you a satisfied feeling in the end. The only exception to this rule was in Rambo 2, where Frankie Stallone sang “He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother.” It was pretty good up until that point.

I think the reason why the first three Rambo’s have worked so far, is because the first part was really well done. It was short, sweet, and set the mood just right for the rest of the film. Walking into this, I had high expectations of this film, especially considering I really enjoyed Rocky 6, which was a much better ending to the Rocky flicks than Rocky 5.

Rambo 4 is kind of Rambo 3, in more of a Rambo 2 setting. The story largely takes place in Burma. A lot of the story part of the movie tries to portray the slaughter that regularly goes on there. This is what really differs it from the other Rambo’s. Rambo 3 kind of touched on it in respects to Afghanistan during its war with Russia, but that was nothing like this. I think Stallone tried documenting some of what is going on in Burma right now. Some of the most disturbing stuff was to allow you to relate to what was going to happen later on the film. Like the role Russian Roulette played in “The Deer Hunter,” one of the focuses of the movie is where they throw some land mines in small pools of water, and make a handful of people run through it, and make them try to escape, I guess. One of the first scenes of the movie is you see someone blowing up as they stepped on a mine, and then the rest of them get shot as they stand around screaming after that.

Obviously those parts resonated with me so much, that it completely overshadowed the Rambo part of the story. When Sly was starting to write this Rambo, he was looking for something like this that was being so overlooked by much of the media in the global community.

The Rambo story line is a group of missionaries hire Rambo to bring them into Burma so they can help out a small village. This General then attacks this village, and captures a few of them whom happened to survive. The minister from the church that these people where with met up with Rambo, and asked him to take a group of mercenaries to get them. Then after a boat ride, the fun begins.

The action in the movie once they get to it is great. Once Rambo killed his first guy with his bow, it is perfect Rambo from there on out as far as I’m concerned. I was really happy with the ending as well, which I refuse to reiterate upon so I don’t spoil it.

All-in all, I liked it. It took a while to warm up to because of the scenes about what was going on in Burma, but by the time the missionaries got on the boat with Rambo, I felt right at home with the other Rambo flicks. Maybe it will be better the second time I see it as the shock kind of wears off on me from the beginning. Otherwise, when I own it on DVD, I’ll be starting it at the boat.

In spirit of how Dave would be frowned upon for giving half lemons in a review, for now, I’ll give it 3 exploding arrows out of 5.

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Do you think it was right for USA Today to send in a woman to review a guy's movie?
Yes, it helps to objectfully view the movie on it's merits, and not be distracted with all of those explosions n' stuff that guys think are cool. 0%
No, this is clearly a guy's movie. Who are you more apt to listen to if you want to know if you'll enjoy a movie: Your best friend, or your girlfriend? Exactly. 57%
It doesn't matter if it was Claudia, or Claude, you're just bitter over a bad response to a movie you wanted to like received. 42%

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I haven't seen any of the Rocky or Rambo movies so I don't really have a stake in this.  I just wanted to say that I heard Stallone on the Michael Weiner "Savage" show (which just about made me never want to see any of his movies again).  It sounded like Weiner was about two seconds from reaching orgasm during the entire thing.  He spent the majority of the interview talking about how much he loved the movie (which is another reason for me to not care about it) and also about how "there just aren't men like this in the country anymore".  I don't think he understands that Rambo is ficitional.  He thinks it's just good foreign policy.  Sorry for the sort of unrelated comment, I just had to share that.

by Spencer on 01/26/2008 02:39:12 AM EST


All good. 

One of the things about Rambo was about how many of the Vietnam Vets felt their country turned their backs on them when they returned. Rambo was a fictional story of a guy who only had what was in his duffel bag after the war. He tried getting back with his surviving troup members, only to find that the last one died of cancer. Then as he's passing though a town, the sheriff gives him a hard time, and gives him a lift out of town before he can buy a meal or anything and tells him to keep moving. As Rambo stops and decides to head back into town, he gets arrested. They treat him bad in jail, he has some flashbacks, and then in turns into a Rambo flick. The difference between this one, and the others is, Rambo doesn't intentially kill anyone.

Back to Weiner-Savage. He probably hasn't seen First Blood (Rambo: First Blood Part 2 dug on it as well) or paid any attention to the story it was trying to tell. He's probably in the same boat as Billo whom thinks homeless vets are a figment of John Edwards imagination. In all likelyhood, all Weiner-Savage probably seen (if he had seen the movie at all) was one guy possibly with the help of a few others taking out an entire army. Then after the main bad guy died, he jizzed and fell asleep before he watched the end.

by babaganoosh13 on 01/26/2008 03:20:20 AM EST

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Rambo 4 is about Burma, with a Rambo side story. Rambo 3 did a bit to try and show what the Afghans were going through the time of their war with Russia. This was so much more than that. So much so that it felt way different than the other Rambos.

I wonder if Weiner-Savage would have noticed if instead of basing the story around what was happening in Burma, it was based on Darfur? Actually we would probably try and make the case about how all we would need to fix Darfur is someone like Rambo, but unfortunatly they don't make them like him anymore.

by babaganoosh13 on 01/26/2008 03:32:35 AM EST

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That was a literal lol, meaning I actually laughed rather than just typing it and pretending.

Given what you said the messages of the movies are, it's clearly just Weiner looking for a strong male role model that doesn't call him a fag.  He saw lots of killing and immediately thought that that was the male defined.  It would be sad if he wasn't such a hateful raving madman.
 

 

by Spencer on 01/26/2008 03:54:45 AM EST

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It would help to have seen the other three movies, but definatly the first.

I think Sly is leaving the door open for other Rambo movies (that's why it isn't being released as 'John Rambo' like they did with 'Rocky Balboa'), but if by chance this one is considered a failure and they don't make any more, I would be happy with this as an end to the series.

These movies are obviously famous for all of the explosions and killing and stuff, and it is a huge part of the movies. It is the original story that seperates it from other blow-em-up flicks. (Actually, I've been reading up on the book. In the book Rambo does kill cops and the national guardmens, but both the book and the movie are about the problems Vietnam vets had about coming home from the war and the hard time they were having adjusting. As well, then ending to the book and the movie is very different.)

by babaganoosh13 on 01/26/2008 04:40:14 AM EST

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no way a woman should've been allowed to remove such a testosterone-laden movie.  there are a few women who "get" it, but let's be real here.

by mathcore on 01/26/2008 01:27:05 PM EST


watching a 62 year old man pumped up on HGH , testosterone and countless other steroids, then by all means...two muscled thumbs up!

By the way no arrow with stay on point thru the down wash of a Hind. Save that fantasy for a video game.

by MRFred on 01/26/2008 02:43:33 PM EST


will stay on point

by MRFred on 01/26/2008 02:52:53 PM EST

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I may have to see this one...as I have fond memories from high school of making out with a tape of Rambo III playing in the background.  It doesn't get much better when you're 17 than touching boobies and watching Rambo kick some ass!

by alphasigmookie on 01/26/2008 09:55:30 PM EST


Background: the book First Blood by David Morrell is one of the fastest paced action books I ecer read. I first read it off the coast of a "hostile foreign nation" and have reread it many times over the years (the books for II & III were also written by Morrell and differ from the movies a bit. ERY unusual to have the original author write these sorts of sequels). He also wrote The Name Of The Rose and, oh, a few others worth perusing.

First Blood the movie was great - until Sly threw in that stupid crying scene with that bullshit about Rambo being called baby killer and being spit on coming back from Nam. (It's fuckin' AMAZING how many OTHER guys were "spit on" after the movie came out...) How many people remember that it was one of David Caruso's - of NYPD Blue and CSI Miami - first acting jobs. It's good to go back and see him BEFORE he got "too cool for school."

Two was pretty good action, three was pretty crappy. Too much flag waving and WAY stupid Russians.

This one...Not too bad, once they get upriver and the blood starts flowing. Lotsa good violence and exploding stuff. Anyone going to see anything more than a good action movie will be disappointed, but if you're seeing a Rambo movie with any expectations other than a good action movie, you're high and you shouldn't be driving anywhere.

Is Sly getting too long in the tooth for action? Despite the puffy jowls, he pulls it off pretty well. A lot better than Charlie Bronson did at the same age.

I wish directors would get over the "shaky cam for TENSION!!" kick. Goddamn Steven Spielberg, anyhow. If they can't deliver the tension and drama without camera tricks, they should stick to baking cookies. Keep the camera steady so we can see what's going on.

(Quick cuts have been annoying as hell lately too. I was watching some movie the other day - had to stop because the fucking director was making jump cuts every other second. Just made me dizzy.)

by MedfordTim on 01/26/2008 11:42:20 PM EST


The Brotherhood of the Rose, not "The name of"

"ecer" is "ever," "ERY" is "VERY"

I gotts start typing with the light on...

by MedfordTim on 01/26/2008 11:53:59 PM EST

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