Confirmed! Ron Paul is NOT a Racist.

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Ron Paul is a racist...NO...

 

This whole thing is just rehashed slander on the day of the New Hampshire vote...combined with a penchant by leftists for calling all republicans racist. Redstate and Bush administration allies love this stuff and so do leftists...so who is left to defend the guy...*tumble weed blows*

 

Gays r for paul 

 Ron Paul made two votes that can be considered and he considered "unconstitutional."

One involved funding NASA. The other one was when he broke against president Reagan by voting in favor a national holiday for MLK in 1983.

I went to the New Republic website to see when these supposed racist memos were published, and every racist memo that

James Kirchick cherry picked the following memos from the Ron Paul journals...and btw from what I've heard but can't confirm, this same guy has gone to Ron Paul events with prostitutes claiming to be a Ron Paul supporter to make him look bad...the goal being to make ihis rallies look something like the Star Wars Cantina to reporters.....anyway...from his article the "Angry White Man." There are only 3-4 racist things that I saw and Cenk sited also, and they all fell into the time period of 1990-1991, and Paul was, again, simply not monitoring the thing closely enough. 3-4 racist things came up in a relatively short time period when Paul wasn't even readin the damn thing. His journals were ongoing over a long period of time...why weren't their a butch of racist stuff in them in the 70's and early 80's? When you're associated with the extreme right, I consider that a reasonable track record. He can try to micromanage every little detail of his various presidential campaigns and work running the Libetarian party and these various three news letters, but he missed a few mistakes..

 So it doesn't make sense that Paul voted unconstitutionally for MLK day and kept a clean journal for decades followed by intentionally putting a butch of crap into your journal a decade later. He stated he didn't want or know that stuff was in there.

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 Here is a link to sections of Ron Paul's newletters from the article

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And here the specific excerpts are.............

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The November 1990 issue of the Political Report had kind words for David Duke.

This newsletter describes Martin Luther King Jr. as "a world-class adulterer" who "seduced underage girls and boys" and "replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration.""

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A February 1991 newsletter attacks "The X-Rated Martin Luther King."

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 An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," and "Lazyopolis" would be better alternatives--and says, "Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house."

 

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 That's everything I saw with regard to the racist stuff...

Then there is the issue of the homophobia stuff, which I haven't even had a chance to dig through yet or the years when those were written, but I just assumed that stuff was less important since every Republican and Democrat was homophobic in 1970....just look at the stuff Mike Huckabee has said. I seriously doubt Paul was homophobic anyway considering his Libertarian views on things, but why dig through that stuff when we can just take James Kirchick own opinion on that matter that he wrote about on gays-for-ron blogspot just yesterday that appeared just after he went on the Tucker Carlson show to blast Paul...

 

"Anyways, I don’t think Ron Paul is a homophobe; I’m just cynical and enjoy getting supporters of political candidates riled up. If you were a Giuliani guy I’d have called him a fascist. But I must say, the Ron Paul supporters are the most enthusiastic of the bunch!"

 -James Kirchick January 7th, 2008

 

 

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Lastly, Cenk did a spot a few weeks ago about Ron Paul being a racist where he cited a since rescinded NYTimes article. there is the issue of the hit piece that the NYTimes put out on Ron Paul, which they apologized for and said should not have been printed. Here is there statement..

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The NYTimes said the blog "Should not have been published

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"A post in The Medium blog that appeared on Monday about the Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul and his purported adoption by white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups contained several errors. Stormfront, which describes itself as a "white nationalist" Internet community, did not give money to Ron Paul's presidential campaign; according to Jesse Benton, a spokesman for Paul's campaign, it was Don Black, the founder of Stormfront, who donated $500 to Paul. The original post also repeated a string of assertions by Bill White, the commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party, including the allegation that Paul meets regularly "with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review and others" at a restaurant in Arlington, Va. Paul never attended these dinners, according to Benton, who also says that Paul has never knowingly met Bill White." -NYTIMES

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 So what have the other "non-racist" candidates that www.redstate.com think are acceptable.

 
John McCain - quoted and taped saying in 2000 "I hate gooks and always will"

Mike Huckabee - in 1998 book compared Homosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia

Huckabee believed HIV patients should be quarantined in  1992 and wanted no federal funds to support AIDS research.

Mitt Romney - said that muslims do not warrant a place in his cabinet. Called all of them radical.

IDK...I'm sure there are some other things out there. My main point is these people ACTUALLY SAID THE STATEMENTS THEMSELVES. Ron Paul is guilty by association only. He didn't write the articles and he accepted "moral responsibility" that they appeared in the journal but he didn't want them there.

 

If the right wasn't so vehemently ready to tear this guy down at the first chance (see Redstate today...), the left's attacks wouldn't be so overpowering....Cenk should resconsider his Ron Paul tirades...

 

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 Meanwhile Fox News is now calling Ron Paul a "Nazi"...really..click here to see the video (I bet that guy will be "invited back."

 

Remember their focus groups "dislike Ron Paul when debates.

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Well, if the zapato fits...

by MedfordTim on 01/09/2008 11:01:19 PM EST


Hey, take that foreign crap outta here! English is the official language at TYT.com.

F*ng socialist.

by ihavenobias on 01/09/2008 11:09:19 PM EST

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Acroso, the very anatomy of proof makes it impossible to prove that something ISN'T true.  That means it can never be confirmed that Ron Paul isn't racist.  Give up this fight before the burden of proof telescopes your spine.

by OneHitKill on 01/10/2008 07:11:30 AM EST


From a logical perspective, you can absolutely prove something "isn't true."  What you CANNOT prove is that something "doesn't exist."  That is why in arguments of existence (God, the Tooth Fairy, Mitt Romney's Soul, etc) the burden of proof is always upon he who is -contending- existence, not he who is not.

It's true that it's impossible to prove Paul has never had a racist thought, or harbors no racist feelings, because we cannot read people's thoughts or feelings.  As I say in my response below.  This whole "Ron Paul Survival Report" fracas proves he's definitely -either- a racist or an idiot, and I wouldn't vote for either one.

by TooFolkGR on 01/10/2008 08:26:06 AM EST

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In the English alphabet, the letter "triple-U" doesn't exist. 

Proof:  Look for it on your computer keyboard.

by OneHitKill on 01/10/2008 08:00:14 PM EST

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..about "The Ron Paul Survival Report," and for some reason I'm not quite convinced.  When his spokesman was asked if he approved the content, he replied, "Most of the incendiary stuff?  No."

So he approved SOME fo the incendiary stuff?  Which part?  And does that mean he approved ALL the "non-incendiary" stuff which just makes him look like a liar because there's no way he read everything except the racist bits?

The only intelligent thing Ron Paul could have done is said, "Absolutely not.  You may not use my name on a publication that contains zero bylines, and will appear to any casual observer to be my words.  If you do so, you have to send me every issue in advance and allow me to veto whatever content I don't want attributed to me."

If he didn't do that, he's a dope.  If he did do that, he's a racist.  Either way, no vote for him.

by TooFolkGR on 01/10/2008 08:22:40 AM EST


"Although Paul is fervently laissez-faire and would be delighted to do away with the vast majority of government departments and programs, the issue of gay rights is where he parts company with most of his Libertarian brethren. "

"he has praised the federal Defense of Marriage Act, voted against funds to assist gay couples in adopting children in the District of Columbia, and defended "don't ask, don't tell." To many observers, the latter positions are the definition of anti-Libertarianism. (He could not vote for DOMA because he was not in Congress at the time, but he has said he would have voted for it.) "

Paul has also come under recent scrutiny for receiving endorsements and donations from bigots such as Don Black, proprietor of the white supremacist online forum Stormfront.

Excerpts from article by By John Barclay

--- Truth To Power

by Leeberal on 01/10/2008 10:24:30 AM EST


that pretty much means he gets foreign policy mostly right and maybe part of one domestic issue (The End).

The only benefit of libertarians are some the individual freedoms they espouse and Paul seems to be against some of the critical ones.

It's the worst of both worlds.

by ihavenobias on 01/10/2008 05:36:35 PM EST

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Totally false. He was trying to compare his little 'change the image on Google Earth" campaign to the Ron Paul campaign in terms of grassroots support.

Cynicism is poison to reform and pumps life into the status quo.

by prezalex on 01/10/2008 11:59:05 AM EST


All of the racist stuff in the letters were done between 1990-1991 only not over decades like Cenk says, and there were only 4 things I saw that New Republic pointed out mostly involving attacking MLK.

Ron Paul voted against president Reagan to have a national MLK day.

by acroso on 01/10/2008 01:23:56 PM EST


And he voted for MLK day almost a decade before the comments in his newsletters calling MLK a gay pedofile...which shows he didn't want the comments there in the first place.

by acroso on 01/10/2008 01:24:48 PM EST

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You will have to extend your 1990-1991 period to include 1992.

Here's a link to a pdf file of the Ron Paul Political Report of June 15, 1992, Volume VI, Number 6, titled "A Special Issue on Racial Terrorism." http://www.tnr.com/download s/sponraceterrorism.pdf


Some of the nasty quotes from this offensive writing include:

Of Washington D. C. he says,

"I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal. If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced?"
And this gem:
"Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began."
Here's a link to a Daily Kos blog about this. http://www.dailykos.com/sto ry/2008/1/8/185438/7845/186 /433066

Paul assers that he let the newsletters be published under his name but that they were written by someone else. Paul claims he has taken "moral responsibility" for what went out under his name, but it is unclear what that means.  
Please note, the newsletters are written in the first person, and in the name of Ron Paul. There is no indication on the newsletter that it is written by someone else and merely approved by Ron Paul.  The newsletter purports to be from Ron Paul himself and it is disingenuous for him to say years later that he didn't supervise the newletter, read it, or know what its contents were. He obviously knew at the time it was published as his own newsleter and not someone else's writing.

by Gregory Wonderwheel on 01/10/2008 05:03:39 PM EST


Ok...1990-1992.

 

That's the total list the New Republic had.

 

Why would he break with his party to vote for MLK day in 1983...and then 10 years later go out of his way to bash MLK??

 

It doesn't make sense.

by acroso on 01/10/2008 05:23:53 PM EST

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favorite racist  Tom " Shoot A Mexican " Tancredo dropped out. More Here  and here

I might as well be the one to tell you. Your political heroes: Pat Buchanon, Ross Perot, Tom Tancredo. They're all nuts. Just like you. KenTx

Selected Racist and off kilter rants by Liacroso..there's plenty more!

 

Tancredo had the support that we should suspend all immigration until we no longer have to "press one for English."I think this is an excellent idea.

 

 

We should give incentives to low-income people who agree to sterilization. We should make available free abortion to low-income people on demand. And companies should cut back or deny maternity leave to women who have more than two children.

 

I certainly don't care that a racist group donated money ... ( to Tancredo)I oppose a Mexican majority in this country so I suppose that could be considered racist.

 

 

I certainly don't care that a racist group donated money to a pro-legal immigration group that gives money to a politician.

 

 

If this so called pioneer group wants to send me money- by all means start sending because I will not be complaining.

by MRFred on 01/10/2008 05:10:47 PM EST


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We should give incentives to low-income people who agree to sterilization. We should make available free abortion to low-income people on demand. And companies should cut back or deny maternity leave to women who have more than two children."

 

 

Where did you get that from?

I never said that.

 

That other stuff is all about who donates money to who, which I think is dumb to argue about. 

by acroso on 01/10/2008 05:26:49 PM EST

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Acroso:"Idk about all these quack theories regarding FAIR and numbers and their random funders, but I support the goals of both organizations, which is supporting legal immigration.:

 Which means he supports the statement

MRFred Oh I see....so you would have supported the Nazis if you lived in Germany in 1933 because the trains ran on time.

Acroso: Why is supporting legal immigration the same thing as supporting gasing the Jews??What a foolish comment.

MRFred: Would someone please explain an analogy , metaphor or simile to poor acroso.....

by MRFred on 01/10/2008 06:04:13 PM EST

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You made this up

 

We should give incentives to low-income people who agree to sterilization. We should make available free abortion to low-income people on demand. And companies should cut back or deny maternity leave to women who have more than two children.

 

 

Again...where did you get that...not something else...but that. 

 

by acroso on 01/10/2008 06:20:19 PM EST

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FAIR and Negative Population Growth

Negative Population Growth, an organization once headquartered in the anti-immigration group FAIR's Washington, DC office, was founded by Donald Mann who stated:

"We should give incentives to low-income people who agree to sterilization. We should make available free abortion to low-income people on demand. And companies should cut back or deny maternity leave to women who have more than two children." (The Record, Teaneck Group Would Limit Babies, Immigrants, August 15, 1996, pg A01)




Fred, that was from your post, not his. It's from the sub post Tancredo and( Acrosos Favorite Group )FAIR Exposed under the general Profile Of RepTom Tancredo, A Reactionaries Favorite Politician


Close as I can tell, acrosa has only publicly accepted Trancredo's creed when it doesn't make him uncomfortable to agree. He's all for the end result of Legal Immigration bit is completely oblivious to the methodology of how the bastards want to accomplish it.

This same sort of selective blindness is practiced by - well, let's face it - every religious and/or spiritual type walking the planet. The ability to ignore and to pick and choose what to agree with is what led us to an asshole like Bush and a disgraceful bunch of pussies in Congress (Yes, Republicans, I'm talking about YOU too!) making bad to worse decision after decision.

I don't mind anyone being held accountable for their own words, but it's a bit much to be held accountable for someone else's. Hell, even if he had quoted it as a first source, I could see it - but he didn't.


Good grief...I must still be full of Holiday Joy...or somethin'...

Just tryin' to referee...

by MedfordTim on 01/11/2008 12:02:57 AM EST

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while KENTX supports Negative Population Growth.

by KenTX on 01/11/2008 03:44:28 AM EST

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Seems like Texas Hold 'em is very popular these days. When I was growing up I preferred five or seven card stud, one or two draw, small ante. Even James Bond, traditionally a black jack player, now apparently plays the river. But hey, Felix Lighter is now black, too, times have changed. So are Norton and Ralph, the Omega Man, Babe Ruth and Michael Jackson. OK, let's not get carried away. Of course Ron Paul is a racist. They where sheets for a reason, duh! You're not supposed to know who they are. Strange fruit. Isn't that obvious?!?

Back to Texas Hold 'em though. You know you've got that case in DC with the firearms and the Bradley folks fighting it tooth and nail. And in places in Texas it is legal to carry a weapon as long as it ain't concealed. Like a six shooter slinging at my side, p'tner. Just as Andy Warhol helped make Marilyn Monroe the postmodern Madonna icon, the T-Shirt producers of America did the same for Che Guevera, turning him overnight into a coffee shop celeb. At the very same time, the voice of John Wayne seemed to echo from far off and fill the airwaves, sublimely sneaking into everyday speech. His twang, his tough talk informed the president's speeches certainly as much as any of the Metternich or Bismarck the speechwriters absorbed by osmosis while falling asleep in western civ and politics 101. Howdy p'tner.

What this town needs is another tough talking sheriff, long on justice and short on patience with an itchy trigger finger just hopin you'll make your first mistake. And your last, p'tner.

The elements in the republican party that want small gov't want state's rights, want to do away with the fed, return to the gold standard, and in general would like to get rid of all federal regulation, if they could. Basically they want the wild west. They want hanging judges. The only problem is that while this 1850's fantasy could be, in theory, mandated, regulated, forced if it had to, through while it could be enacted into law (mostly by rolling back laws) you can't turn back social trends, change people's minds, force people back to social mores of another day and age.

At least not as easily. And for that they need the federal gov't, for bans on gay marriage, for the bomb, for censorship, for the V-Chip and HDTV, for wrapping themselves up in the flag and banning California from enacting stricter CAFE standards than the rest of the country. God bless America, p'tner. Just don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out (it swings both ways, like some pedophile republican senators with wide stances, not to be mentioned here).

by tiggerporn on 01/10/2008 06:05:13 PM EST


I thought Texas Hold 'Em was the name for Ken's method of protecting his genitals from the harmful rays issued forth by his household microwave oven.

by OneHitKill on 01/10/2008 08:05:38 PM EST

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James Bond's preferred game is Bacarrat.

...just sayin'...

by MedfordTim on 01/11/2008 12:11:52 AM EST

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In Casino Royale they played a real friggin'game of poker instead of that Baccarat nonsense and I loved it.

Couldn't tell the difference between shorting a stock and buying put options, though. Oh well.

by MayorHardin on 01/16/2008 11:38:05 AM EST

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