What made you a liberal or a conservative?

What's your reason for being a liberal or a conservative?

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Education did it for me.

I grew up in a politically mixed family. My father was a Republican, and my mother voted Democratic in every election since 1942. She was in the Navy. Her CO authorized time off for them to vote, and the next day, anyone who didn't vote found themselves restricted to post. At 88 years old, she just cast her mail-in ballot for Obama.

My first presidential election was 1972, I voted for Nixon. I voted Ford in '76, because he pardoned Nixon, effectively ending the Watergate mess; allowing the country to move on. And also because of the Mayaguez incident.

1980 was my year for youthful idealism, when I voted the Anderson Coalition. Remember John Anderson? One of his platform planks was to place a fifty-cents a gallon tax on gasoline. The tax would artificially inflate the cost of gas, and stimulate a demand for alternatives. Revenues from the tax were to be plowed into basic research on alternative fuels, public transportation improvements, etc. Where would we be if these programs were instituted in 1980?

But it was morning in America, and no politician has successfully run on a platform to raise taxes, no matter how noble the purpose. Anderson turned out to be the Ralph Nader of 1980. He received about 7% of the popular vote, Carter received 41%, and Ronald Reagan took office with 51%. My youthful enthusiasm helped pave the way for the Reagan era.

Because of some other bad decisions, I ended up in a nowhere, dollar above minimum wage job after getting out of the service. My income was low enough I qualified for government tuition assistance. If I skimped and saved, I could live on part time work and my GI Bill while I attended school.

Reagan went on a binge of cutting government spending, and PELL grants were among the first to go. I had to drop out of school. Luckily, I had finished my AA which got me a slightly better job, and kept going to school part time. It took me 10 years to get through college.

To me, it was extremely shortsighted to cut education funds. Because of my education, I have a better job. I am less likely to be out of work, and when I am, I am able to find work sooner. The government will not have to take care of me as much as it does an unskilled man. In my lifetime, I will pay several times the amount in taxes that it would have cost the government in tuition aid. Taxes they wouldn't have gotten from my bottom of the food chain job which was outsourced to the Third World.

I began to realize these same principles applied to a lot of social problems. Help people get on their feet, spend a little on education, health care, etc. Enable people to improve their lot, and it pays off in the long run. I have been a Democrat ever since.
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I suppose my environment played a large roll on the Democrat side of my politics. The progressive side came from education and a refusal to be ignorant when voting.
My mom is a Democrat and so is my dad. I remember being taken to my first rally when Walter Mondale was running against Reagan. I Remember the laughing and cheering during the debate. I also remember going home and seeing the debate on TV and realizing nobody was laughing or smiling at the same things the people at the rally were. I had no particular viewpoint at this time nor did my parents attempt to push anything on me. However, I did know what side they were on...the losing one...twice.

I voted for Ross Perot in my first election in 1992, the year I graduated High School. I liked his no nonsense attitude, his funny quips and even the way he talked. I agreed, at the time, that our country needed to be run like a business. It made sense to me.

After the first loss in my voting career I decided to pay a bit more attention. However, women, beer, bars, football, and many other partying techniques ultimately kept my attention away from politics for 4 years. Come time for re-election of Bill Clinton I chose him because I had been a beneficiary of the .com boom and was smack in the middle of switching jobs and making several grand more a year. This pleased me, thus Clinton got my vote in 1996. That and the Electronic Freedom of Information Act ammendments. I was pleased that Clinton actually had the vision to see the future of the PC industry. Not to mention my salary had increased 50% under his presidency in 4 years.

It was early 1998 when I really started to pay attention to politics. Monica Lewinsky got my attention as she did the rest of the country, and even the world. Who can say why I actually began defending Clinton during the scandal. I had listened to him speak, work with Republicans and keep a spirit of bipartisanship that was beginning to lose ground thanks to the "Contract with America" that Newt & Company began touting. PNAC (project for a new american century) didn't help either. I have been anti-war my entire life and I certainly didn't want a government that had a thirst for blood.

I was pretty pissed at Clinton for not allowing Gore to win a landslide into the Presidency. In 2000 he should have won handily, but the Republicans decided to claim they had the moral high ground in "family values" and since things were going well, the american people decided to give the other guy a chance. I really wonder how many of them regret that now?

September 11th, 2001 is the defining moment of my politics. When that happened I was hurt, angry and wanted to do something. I had feelings of hatred towards the Muslim world. I wanted to wipe them off the planet if I could. After realizing that Saudi Arabia seemed mostly responsible for the attacks, yet went unpunished, I realized that the Republicans really didn't care about the American people. They only cared about the Military Industrial Complex that could be setup through war. I also realized that my fault lied in my ill feelings towards the Muslim world. I will never have thoughts of eliminating an entire sect of the planet due to an attack from only 19 people. I just wish everyone would realize that violence is not the answer, and never will be.

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by redwingsm on 10/26/2008 05:24:12 PM EST

I am 22... needless to say I am the paradigm of youthful, liberal voters. It is nice to see some my ideals are shared by someone who is experienced in the world, certainly more than I am.

by touched on 10/26/2008 05:28:05 PM EST

But i just happen to vote that way most of the time.  Personally, I think democrats are bitches most of the time, but that's much more than I think of those thugs that call themselves the "moral majority".  Personally, I was raised as a southern baptist, and then once I learned about evolution, I pretty much started to hate organized religion, although I loved philosophy, and since a lot of religions are really philosophies that are wrapped around in mind numbing fairy tales, I liked to study science AND learn about the fairy tales. 

I remember learning about child sweat shops when I was younger it had to have been before 6th grade, and upon first hearing about them my first reaction was:at least they were able to get jobs to support their families..."  This was the young stupid chris...Then I saw a demonstration about the reason why those sweat shops existed in 8th grade, and it was largely because of corporations like Nike that were moving their factories to third world countries that didn't have regulations in the 1990's and still let children under 14 work for 12 hours at a time in lead laden factories that still had asbestos in the ceilings from the 60's...that's when i was like, Oh, I get it...sweatshops are bad...you have to forgive my ignorance, because remember, I came to this realization when I was in the 8th grade.  I have been a liberal ever since, and almost didn't vote in the 2004 election because the 2000 election was stolen.  Personally, I won't waste my vote on an independent party vote because often that just hurts the country, even though the indpendent candidate might actually be better than the democratic candidate(not ross perot).  Often times, I am pissed that the party system still exists, because that is what is keeping our electorate ignorant of the issues...we're too busy defining the "left" and the "right", when really the issues are grey, and the absolute ideals don't exist in real life.  Humans are hypocrites all around, so don't try feed me some hippie "every body love everybody bullshit" because that doesn't work in the real world either.  I'm a true liberal, because I don't think upon party lines, I make my OWN lines.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 10/26/2008 06:03:22 PM EST


I have very few relatives.  My father, who was Jewish, escaped Germany in 1939.  He always voted conservative, either Republican for national elections or Democratic for local and state elections.

The 60's was the hey-day of the civil rights movement.  Looking at what was hapenning on TV with Wallace and the State Militia blocking blacks from entering the University of Alabama, and images of the KKK burning crosses in the yards of black families, I remember my father pointing at the TV and yelling (that is the only time I ever remember my father yelling), "no Jew can possibly vote for these people who would do these things!"

From then on, he was decidedly progressive.

Politically, I have always been independent.  But I have such a strong sense of fairness and equality and respect for the middle class that came from my parents - that I suppose I am a progressive independent.  At least, I was a strong supporter of Al Gore's bid for the White House and am an equally strong supporter of Barack Obama.

Besides, I always vote for the Harvard man. (My alma matter and where my son goes to school now.)

by rbruck on 10/26/2008 06:10:26 PM EST

Good stuff rbruck.  It's good to see some Harvard graduates here defending Obama.  I'm positive you gotta be pretty darn smart to become president of the law review. 

McCain was in the bottom percentile of his graduating class.  Not to mention a 3 time crash test dummy pilot.  :)

Obama/Biden '08!

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by redwingsm on 10/26/2008 06:54:46 PM EST

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But forced to vote Democrat.

The choice is simple for me:

I grew up loving animals and nature:  Republicans and right-wing Christians see nature as something to use and abuse and profit from for people's sake.  There is no recognition that humans are not separate from their environment.

I grew up caring about less fortunate people:  I had a Catholic mother.  She subscribed to a small Catholic missionary magazine that told stories of horribly poor people in other countries and how these missionaries were helping them.  Recently she told me that I used to send them part of my allowance when I was really young.  I didn't even remember that, but I think these stories must have touched me deeply.  Republicans do not seem to care about those that are less fortunate than themselves.  Seems they simplify everything down to:  "if those people really wanted to help themselves, they would be successful too."  ridiculous.  We would be a much greater country if others could participate and not be worried where their next meal comes from or where they will spend the night.

I grew up loving arts and crafts and creativity and invention.  There is no room for average people to engage in such pursuits when people are forced to work so hard just for the basics.  Their ability to invent and create is stifled.  Democrats are much more supportive of the arts, as well as of the creative ingenuity we need to transform our society into a sustainable one.  Republicans uglify our world by letting corporations and special interests decide what our communities and cities look like.

by desertpear on 10/26/2008 06:46:59 PM EST

The American Neocons might be the most imbalanced culture on earth today.

Life in balance with the earth and nature is the greatest wealth.  Hunter-gatherers only worked 20 hours per week, and were able to create the beginnings of all arts and crafts mankind now knows.

In Bali, the people are dirt-poor by our standards, but they are well educated and live in harmony with their surroundings.  As a result, they have some of the richest cultural arts in the world, from gamilan music to sculpture to fine paintings to jewelry to dance and theater.

And many of them have no electricity.  But they consider themselves wealthy and they are happy.

The Neocons have much, but they always want more, and they are mostly miserable.  I actually think they tend to cling more to their religion than most of us because their lives are so unfulfilling.

It is sad that the Neocons trap the middle class with the shackles of credit so that the middle class ends up having to work night and day just to maintain this crazy life out of balance.

by rbruck on 10/26/2008 10:01:07 PM EST

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i am not a liberal because of kerry/edwards.

i am not a conservative because of bush/cheney.

 

this naive dichotomy (anyone that is anti-borat and counter-bidet has got to be pro-rethuglican) is one more reason why this country is fucked. 

by neo on 10/26/2008 09:49:35 PM EST

You really should have asked about the American Nazi Party and the Whigs, in order to be all-inclusive.

Neo, Lord of the Fake Outrage

by richardshort2001 on 10/26/2008 10:17:53 PM EST

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If you feel you are in another category, by all means spill it.  I mentioned those 2 as they are the polar opposites in terms of politics.

Think up a name for what you are and let's have it.

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by redwingsm on 10/27/2008 09:51:43 AM EST

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because of people like neo


by Chinese Democracy on 10/27/2008 11:02:42 AM EST

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