10/09/2008 09:42:45 PM EST

Why this Guilt By Association Stuff is Bogus

posted by Perry

Apparently Obama has met a former domestic terrorist a couple of times and that disqualifies him to be president...this is why that is in fact not true

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Barack Obama is a SENATOR. John McCain is a SENATOR.

 

To be a Senator, you need to go all across the state and meet a lot of people. You need to sit with many people you don't know, shake hands with total strangers, and kiss babies. Do you know how easy it would be to get a Rumsfeld/Saddam style handshake pic of a Senator with a random douche of your choosing at a campaign rally? To be a Senator is to cover A LOT of ground, and to associate with a ton of people.

 

Barack Obama and John McCain both have webs of connections all over their states, touching along uncountable numbers of douche bags, assholes, and yes, even domestic terrorists.

 

To be a Senator who hasn't met at least one asshole in their career that could be brought up in a Presidential election is to be a Senator who lives in a bubble

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Too many to count 12%
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Why this Guilt By Association Stuff is Bogus | 10 comments (10 topical, 0 hidden)
Guilt by association (none / 0)
I have a very good friend  who spent 30 years consorting with known criminals daily. I guess this would disqualify me from public office. Maybe they should arrest me.



PS. Buddy is a parole officer.   & nbsp;

by stanski on 10/10/2008 12:04:28 AM EST

Association is important (none / 0)
If you associate with characters with radical positions consistantly, you have to concerned with their disposition.  Look at any individual and you can judge their general attitude by their reactions with these associations.  Rev. Wright?  Bill Ayers?  Obama stating he never heard anything negative in 20 years inside this guys church?  Are you going to give him a pass?  Ayers extreme views in the Annenberg Challenge of what to educate the US youth with?  Giving Obama control of where to spend his money, but Obama claims to only live in his neighborhood?  He launches his campaign for the Senate in Illinois from Ayers' living room?  But he had no idea about his past?  Stopped having contact with him since 2005; 4 years after his comments about not doing enough in his bombing campaign back in the 70's.  Please...   Just give him a pass like the rest of the Main Stream Media.  Winning is the most important thing, who cares what he actually stands for (without a teleprompter).  Oh, forgot, he stands for letting babies born alive through botched abortions die in a room without medical care, pardon, any care at all; let them simply die from neglect... wow.  At least Palin agrees women that get abortions shouldn't go to jail, as she stated in her TV interviews, but she would at least counsel them to go a different course; how horrible!  You want to look the other way?  Wow, talk about vetting....

by Relvig on 10/10/2008 01:13:53 AM EST

Nice Hannity cut and paste (none / 0)

Did you hear Sean is anti-semitic?

If you believe association matters so much, how about McCain association with four members of the Keating Five?

What about the fifth, well that was McCain.

So McCain takes bribes to illegally influence regulation in a giant financial scandal and we should vote for him?

Or his attending a rally for a virulent anti-gay group?

Or him standing by and watching a woman who shot and killed an abortion doctor called a hero (the judge called her a terrorist)?

Or the second time he had to issue an official apology for appearing to take bribes?

Or the third?

Or his association with a reverend who called Hitler an agent of God for killing the jews and the Catholic church the mother whore?

Or another minister who said God wants poor people to starve and New Orleans deserved Katrina for all the gay?

Or how about him being associated with supporters who are calling for Obama to be murdered and McCain's refusal to disassociate himself with those supporters?

Or how about him crowing about the endorsement of Ambassador Annenberg who established a charity board which featured a radical domestic terrorist and former member of the Weather Underground?

Or his close association with a woman who not only broke up a marriage but stole money to buy drugs from a charity she was running!

Or McCain's association with a lobbyist who has been on retainer for Freddie Mac until last month.  What was Freddie Mac paying for?  Access to John McCain.

Or Palin's association with an America-Hating secessionist group?

Or her association with a reverend who began his career by trying to get a woman lynched for being a witch?

Or her association with a Senator under indictments on seven counts of corruption related offenses?

Glad you came over here to the Young Turks to get your education on.  Guess that kind of leaves you without a candidate.  Oh well, you might as well stay home November 4th.

by ProfRich on 10/10/2008 01:29:35 AM EST

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sorry, try this (none / 0)
If you associate with characters with radical positions consistantly, you have to concerned with their disposition. 
Look at any individual and you can judge their general attitude by their reactions with these associations. 
Rev. Wright?  Bill Ayers?  Obama stating he never heard anything negative in 20 years inside this guys church? 
Are you going to give him a pass?  Ayers extreme views in the Annenberg Challenge of what to educate the US youth with? 
Giving Obama control of where to spend his money, but Obama claims to only live in his neighborhood? 
He launches his campaign for the Senate in Illinois from Ayers' living room?  But he had no idea about his past? 
Stopped having contact with him since 2005; 4 years after his comments about not doing enough in his bombing campaign back in the 70's.  Please...   Just give him a pass like the rest of the Main Stream Media. 
Winning is the most important thing, who cares what he actually stands for (without a teleprompter). 
Oh, forgot, he stands for letting babies born alive through botched abortions die in a room without medical care,
pardon, any care at all; let them simply die from neglect... wow.  At least Palin agrees women that get abortions
shouldn't go to jail, as she stated in her TV interviews, but she would at least counsel them to go a different course; how horrible!  You want to look the other way?  Wow, talk about vetting....

Ok, almost all the Ayers stuff can be found on CNN.  (a repeatedly left leaning broadcast)


Rev. Wright?  Watch any videos of his sermon...  who are you trying to fool?

There, sorry Prof.  I should have sited my sources.  Please site yours, and see if you can avoid Left wing liberal sites as
I avoided right leaning ones...

by Relvig on 10/10/2008 02:22:17 AM EST

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Wright (none / 0)

I was raised a Catholic, which I had no choice about.  I attended church with my mother faithfully for 17 years and I disagreed with many things I heard there.  People don't just stand up and walk out of a church just because they disagree with something in a sermon.  You listen, go home, and think about it, and decide for yourself, perhaps after some prayer.  Where do people get this silly idea that you jump up and run out?  That's ridiculous.

The Obama family is a paragon of family values in my opinion.  They are a fine example of moral living.  Judge not, lest ye be judged. 

The Ayers thing is simply too stupid to argue with.  Obama has been vetted for two years now.  It's a non-issue.

 

 

by desertpear on 10/10/2008 03:45:18 AM EST

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actually (none / 0)
Me and my mother left a Methodist Church we belonged to because of the interpretations of the minister.  This does happen.  I voted by taking away my donations to his beliefs and used my constitutional rights to leave.

by Relvig on 10/10/2008 03:51:26 AM EST

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gold star for you (none / 0)

by desertpear on 10/10/2008 04:40:03 AM EST

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So you concede, Relvig? (none / 0)

You have no defense of McCain and his decades of questionable associations with crooks and terrorists?

Or Palin the religious cook, crook and secessionist?

All you can do is retype your earlier points?

Yeah, you're done.

Oh, and Silly Sarah's conversion to pro-choice, while strange and suggesting a severe lack of principles, does make me like her a bit more.  Has McCain gone pro-choice too?

So my choices now look like this:

Weather Underground- linked to both candidates

Pro-black minister- Obama

Anti-semitic, anti-gay, anti-poor, pro-Hitler ministers- McCain

Connection to one crooked fundraiser in Chicago- Obama

Being an actual crooked politician (three times)- McCain

Connection to major crook in S&L scandal- McCain

Connection to pro-life murdering terrorists- McCain

Connection to anti-gay hate group- McCain

Connection to seccessionists- Palin

Connection to witch hunter- Palin

Yeah, the choice seems pretty clear.

You may now ignore all that and retype your original post.

 

 

 

by ProfRich on 10/10/2008 07:06:14 AM EST

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Lest we forget (none / 0)

Connection to a banana company that funds terrorists on both sides of a Colombian guerrilla war:  McCain

Relvig is broked.

by OneHitKill on 10/10/2008 10:20:13 AM EST

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wrong (none / 0)

Read your own link from factcheck.org:

In discussions of abortion rights, definitions are critically important. The main bills under discussion, SB 1082 and the federal BAIPA, are both definition bills. They are not about what can and should be done to babies; they are about how one defines "baby" in the first place. Those who believe that human life begins at conception or soon after can argue that even a fetus with no chance of surviving outside the womb is an "infant." We won't try to settle that one.

What we can say is that many other people – perhaps most – think of "infanticide" as the killing of an infant that would otherwise live. And there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus' life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion." Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony. NRLC calls this law "loophole-ridden." ;

by desertpear on 10/10/2008 03:40:28 AM EST

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