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The numbers speak for themselves, yet we still have these supply side idiots with major news platforms, like Larry Kudlow telling us all is well. The market is not the all knowing omnipotent being that we should all pray to. It is merely legalized house of ill repute where suckers send their hard earned money in the form of Roth Ira’s and 401k’s for the promise of a tax sheltered retirement account only to have the principal and gains wiped out by unbridled short sellers and hedge fund managers.

No amount of money or capitol is going to save the banks that are overleveraged on credit default swaps and mortgage backed securities. The wave of foreclosures has not slowed, and may be accelerating. The bail out has been nothing more than a short covering for the banks.

The difference between banks and the auto industry is that the government is already in the business of lending and borrowing money. We don’t need the banks. On the other hand, the government is not in the business of building cars and manufacturing. We need to restore the manufacturing base in this country, across the board.
If a bank goes under, another bank will just buy them out on a sweet heart deal. If the Big 3 go under, we all go under. Add another 3 million foreclosures and bankruptcies to the list, game over. For less than 10% of what we Fed and Treasury have handed out in stop gap measures we could revolutionize the US auto industry.

The 2 trillion pumped into the banks, on and off the books, by the fed and treasury over the last 2 months has amounted to just adding water to the lake without fixing the hole in the dam. The entire supply side economic model is a farce. Demand for goods and services are what drive profits, not excess money supply. Excess money supply drives inflation and debt.

The numbers speak for themselves, yet we still have these supply side idiots with major news platforms, like Larry Kudlow telling us all is well. The market is not the all knowing omnipotent being that we should all pray to. It is merely legalized house of ill repute where suckers send their hard earned money in the form of Roth Ira’s and 401k’s for the promise of a tax sheltered retirement account only to have the principal and gains wiped out by unbridled short sellers and hedge fund managers.

There was a reason why we had a 70% tax bracket, higher capitol gains taxes and regulation over the sales and issuances of securities related insurances, it was called the Great Depression. We have systematically removed all the safe guards that were put in place to prevent this from happening again. Needless to say the reason theses companies and pension plans are broke is they have all been looted under the free for all created by 40 to 1 leveraging, the absence of oversight and regulation as well as the ridiculously low short term capitol gains rate.

What else do you need to know?

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Printing too much money, blaming our ills on an ethnic group, invading countries and claiming the right of natural resources, so-called nation building. Replace Iraq with Poland, Mexicans with the Jews, we're turning into Nazi Germany. Herr Bush even gets to exit stage left and blame it on someone else when the shit finally does hit the fan.

I do not believe Wagoner is a Porsche.

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by tiggerporn on 11/19/2008 02:02:41 AM EST

The CDS market is still going forward, albeit admittedly much smaller than originally planned, under the guise of regulation. The CDS market is a 55 trillion a year market, though that is a bit disingenuous because that would be the value if every mortgage they were tied to defaulted, which means they probably average about a two to one pay off.

In order to set so-called fair market value, they are going to create a marketplace to sell the bad CDS's we've purchased off the banks balance sheets (something like 85 billion worth instead of the original 350 to 700 billion estimate). We will be paying former managers at AIG, Lehman, Bear Sterns and (mostly) Goldman Sachs to create these markets. We don't actually expect the markets to work, who would buy bad assets, that is the reason they were toxic to the banks in the first place. So we're going to be creating the markets and buying the newly created instruments, probably some form of gov't backed junk bond relating to CDS, perhaps bundling them, and trying to create a price value of say 40 cents on the dollar. Apparently, since no one trusts Paulson, Bernanke, Bush and more and more the entire US gov't, the true value might actually be closer to 2 or 3 cents on the dollar.

We do need to regulate this industry but perhaps there are other better ways? Do we need to enrich Goldman Sachs with lucrative contracts to do it?

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by tiggerporn on 11/19/2008 02:20:55 AM EST

As the bankruptcies and loss of jobs spread through the country more and more of these asset back securities are going to become toxic, including larger numbers of conventional loans. PMI insurance and the unwillingness of the asset holders to refinance has become self fulfilling.  Why would you allow your borrower to refi, particularly at a loss of principal, if the CDS pay off is greater?

 

There is no end insight to these failures. We are just throwing good money after bad, and will continue to do so as long as we have top down/supply side approach. The economist and market advocates like to use the technical terms and wishful spin to make it sound like given them more money, less regulation and lower taxes will somehow create jobs, make the individual money or save their home. It clearly has not been the case.

 

To make it worse, we have these idiot pundits and “journalist” providing a sounding board and echo chamber for these “voodoo economic” policies to the point where they convince each other and 50% of the sheep to believe it.

 

The government should refi these homes directly, rather than given money to the banks. At least offer that option, then there would at least be some motivation on the lenders to get more involved.


by sisco66 on 11/19/2008 07:25:43 AM EST

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who thought this referred to "University of South Florida" and was confused when I started reading the body of the post?

by jarett on 11/19/2008 10:29:25 AM EST

sorry, it is my opinion of 50% of the population, including myself at least half the time. As in WTF, or as we say in the words of former Eagles coah Ray Rhoads, what da fullback.

by sisco66 on 11/19/2008 11:40:34 AM EST

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I clicked and thought, "This isn't about my school at all!"  

USF football apologizes for the less than exiting season this year.

by jazzchic on 11/19/2008 12:24:35 PM EST

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