12/12/2008 10:52:52 AM EST

C'mon, Twba, step up to the plate

posted by MedfordTim

Deep in another thread, the following exchange took place and I thought it worth it's own thread...since Twba didn't reply there...

Tim: Kills you to know I'm right, doesn't it?

Twba: It saddens me to see that you don't have a fucking clue.

Tim: Well, then, clue me in - Write a nice long post detailing how America is a better place now economically than we were in 1980. Focus on the middle class, full time job stats, ratio of pay for executives to workers, real growth in wages, free trade benefitting the working class, how we got to 10 Trillion dollars in National Debt when the tax revenues were so vastly increased through lower tax rates, the effect on our infrastructure, union-busting, etc.

Any farmer will tell you. You can't skim cream from the bottom.

Give us the Twba vision of how Reaganomics was a good thing for anyone but already wealthy people.

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C'mon, Twba, step up to the plate | 29 comments (29 topical, 0 hidden)
The plate, as it were (5.00 / 1)
Any farmer will tell you. You can't skim cream from the bottom.

There is also a saying that "You can lead Twba to the plate, but he's a picky eater."

He won't answer this challenge until he's reasonably sure no one is paying attention any more.  It lessens his investment.

I'm also looking forward to his explanation of how the policies responsible for the US's transformation from the biggest lender into biggest borrower on the planet could be anything close to even the most creative definition of the word "good."

by OneHitKill on 12/13/2008 10:32:03 AM EST

Thank You (none / 0)
You nailed it when you wrote "He won't answer this challenge until he's reasonably sure no one is paying attention any more."

Although you were being FAR too generous with regard to his motives when you followed that up with "It lessens his investment."

by ihavenobias on 12/13/2008 01:18:14 PM EST

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No thanks (none / 0)
Do we really need color commentary from a dork who lost a fight with an angry mouse?

by Twba on 01/24/2009 01:46:25 PM EST

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You do realize (none / 0)
that you're proving everyone's point by hiding like a coward and waiting to respond right?

PS---I'd rather be a winner that loses a fight here and there than be a loser.

:)

by ihavenobias on 01/24/2009 05:05:53 PM EST

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Extra Credit reading (none / 0)

On this same subject, Vanity Fair's Joseph E. Stiglitz has written a very good piece on the top five mistakes made economy-wise since the Reagan administration.

Capitalist Fools

There will come a moment when the most urgent threats posed by the credit crisis have eased and the larger task before us will be to chart a direction for the economic steps ahead. This will be a dangerous moment. Behind the debates over future policy is a debate over history—a debate over the causes of our current situation. The battle for the past will determine the battle for the present. So it’s crucial to get the history straight.

What were the critical decisions that led to the crisis? Mistakes were made at every fork in the road—we had what engineers call a “system failure,” when not a single decision but a cascade of decisions produce a tragic result. Let’s look at five key moments.

by MedfordTim on 12/12/2008 11:56:47 AM EST

Nobel (none / 0)

It's time for a pop quiz.

by Twba on 01/24/2009 01:45:02 PM EST

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I just noticed something. (none / 0)
It occurred to me that Twba is roughly ten million times more educated than Cenk on the subject of economics, even though Cenk has an economics undergrad from Wharton. This makes me wonder about Twba's educational background.

by KenTX on 01/24/2009 02:43:51 PM EST

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yea I wonder (none / 0)
about TWBATX education level as well.

Republicans portray the government as the enemy. Then when they take over, they prove it.

by Chinese Democracy on 01/24/2009 06:15:25 PM EST

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Very interesting topic (none / 0)
Thanks for the heads up on the VF article.

by ihavenobias on 12/12/2008 12:09:00 PM EST

Question Tim (none / 0)
Since 1980, ex-communist countries (and I'm sort of counting China) have experienced enormous economic growth and improvement through free market economics. Outside of these countries, can you name a developed nation that has outperformed the U.S. in the metrics you outlined?

by KenTX on 12/13/2008 05:52:46 AM EST

Step away , son, now is not the time (none / 0)

This is Twba's thread and it's about America, Americans,  and Reaganomics. The train shall not be shoved off the track.

by MedfordTim on 12/13/2008 10:33:54 AM EST

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if you dont want other people to post (none / 0)
then fucking email TWBA

Republicans portray the government as the enemy. Then when they take over, they prove it.

by Chinese Democracy on 12/13/2008 12:00:18 PM EST

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Afraid of public discourse? (none / 0)
Ken can post all he wants, and you can bite his heels all YOU want. It would be expecially nice if it was concentrated in the area of

"Give us the KenTX vision of how Reaganomics was a good thing for anyone but already wealthy people."

and

"Give us the Chinese Democracy vision of how Reaganomics was a good thing for anyone but already wealthy people."

rather than side issues and little insult posts.

by MedfordTim on 12/13/2008 03:37:20 PM EST

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Tiny does bite. (none / 0)
And he doesn't stop with just the heels.

And he has rabies.

And other pathogens.

by KenTX on 12/13/2008 04:32:15 PM EST

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Poor tiny (none / 0)
The one thing tiny as  is you by the tiny balls. You just cant seem to let them go.

Republicans portray the government as the enemy. Then when they take over, they prove it.

by Chinese Democracy on 01/24/2009 06:18:50 PM EST

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its true (none / 0)
I've been teabagging Tiny.

by KenTX on 01/24/2009 06:49:05 PM EST

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NO (none / 0)
Im not going to play with the right wing nutbags according to your rules

sue me

Republicans portray the government as the enemy. Then when they take over, they prove it.

by Chinese Democracy on 01/24/2009 06:16:56 PM EST

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Ken can post... thats thrilling... whats (none / 0)
that got to my reply?

YOU POSTED

 Step away , son, now is not the time (none / 0)

This is Twba's thread and it's about America, Americans,  and Reaganomics. The train shall not be shoved off the track.

by MedfordTim on 12/13/2008 10:33:54 AM EST

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I REPLIED TO YOU

    if you dont want other people to post (none / 0)
    then fucking email TWBA

    by Chinese Democracy on 12/13/2008 12:00:18 PM EST

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I MADE IT IS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE FOR YOU  in case the post was really good

Republicans portray the government as the enemy. Then when they take over, they prove it.

by Chinese Democracy on 01/24/2009 06:25:28 PM EST

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You answer a question first (none / 0)
What are the import tariffs in these countries? And what is average tariff in the US?

Hint: It's much, much (much) lower in the U.S. One might even say these developing economies have "protected" their economic growth, a concept that's reviled by The Church Of Free Trade.

by ihavenobias on 12/13/2008 01:21:19 PM EST

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That's an interesting question. (none / 0)
You say that Free Trade and Globalization are the basic problems with our economy. This is subject deserv es its own thread, because I don't want to create a sideshow in the Tim-Twba showdown at High Noon.

by KenTX on 12/13/2008 04:22:36 PM EST

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No (none / 0)
I'm saying that (essentially) unrestricted free trade and globalization are clearly *part* of the problem with our economy.

Which reminds me, go watch that great (short) Hartmann video from MSNBC I just posted.

And Tim, I don't want to derail this thread so I'll stop now.

by ihavenobias on 12/13/2008 04:25:27 PM EST

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fair enough (none / 0)
We will stop for now. But I will start a new thread on this subject in the near future. We need free trade and open dialogue markets on this subject.

by KenTX on 12/13/2008 04:29:37 PM EST

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Man... (none / 0)
I wait all weekend for Twba's response, and what do I find?  I guess I'll have to wait for this post to be further down the list.

by Spencer on 12/15/2008 06:43:29 PM EST

Still nothing? (none / 0)
This is even late by Twba standards.

by Spencer on 12/17/2008 07:10:12 PM EST

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He's taken cowardice to a new level (none / 0)
I'd send him a ribbon in the mail but he wouldn't open it until next year, so what's the point?

by ihavenobias on 01/24/2009 05:07:08 PM EST

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"cowardice" (none / 0)
I would pay a large sum to witness Twba sodomize Thommmm Hartmannnn in a debate.

by KenTX on 01/24/2009 06:45:07 PM EST

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Are you sure? (none / 1)
Thom would show up on time and TWBA would show up 2 months later.

That's a LONG time for someone to pitch a tent, even for a Texan!

by ihavenobias on 01/24/2009 07:05:06 PM EST

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You know what they say (none / 0)

The waiting is the hardest part.

by Twba on 01/24/2009 01:42:15 PM EST

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take all the time you want TWATX (none / 0)
It makes you look even more the fool

Republicans portray the government as the enemy. Then when they take over, they prove it.

by Chinese Democracy on 01/24/2009 06:21:14 PM EST

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