02/10/2008 01:58:02 AM EST

Uncommitted

posted by mathcore

For anyone following this weekend's caucuses/primaries did any of you notice what happened in my backyard of the evergreen state?

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In Washington state, Obama trounced on Clinton.  Quite brutally.  It wasn't all too surprising, but what was surprising is what happened on the GOP's side.  16% of Republicans voted for Romney.  This is a caucus, not a primary.  How someone can pull such a feat  of retardation is mindboggling...but moving on.  Even more surprising is that 13% of GOP caucus attendees here chose uncommitted.

As if the Iraq war, housing crisis, and failing economy weren't bad enough, they're suffering some severe internal rifts.  Oh, this is a good time to be a lefty in America.
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Stick a fork in 'em?
Absolutely, the GOP is struggling just to keep it together. 25%
Ehhh, maybe. I'll wait and see. 18%
Don't be silly. You can't kill the undead. 56%

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A word of warning... (none / 0)
I think the bigger potential rift is among our friends in the left. Its like they just hit the lottery (when it comes to the actions of the last 8 years of Bush) but they dont know how to invest it wisely. They are like my teenagers with a giftcard at the mall - all they'll end up buying is shit that will clutter my house and ultimately piss me off when i have to clean it up later.

I see that Obama is picking up steam, and that Clinton seems to be faltering a bit. Ahh, but remember the superdelegates...they could throw a large wrench into the works, thwarting the will of the Liberals and turning this into "Who can be in the middle more" all that opportunity the left had ...POOF...gone...

by bobo1 on 02/10/2008 02:27:21 AM EST

That's hitting the nail on the head. (none / 0)
The Republicans seem destined to commit suicide (if they aren't "undead" already).  Every couple of centuries or so our friends on the right must utterly destroy themselves so that they can rise from the ashes to destroy themselves yet again.

It is not to be admired.  They have a habit of bringing the rest of us down with them.

But the Congressional Democrats' apparent unwillingness and/or inablility to use the opportunity given to them by the Republican s' utter failures, and the rift between Hillary and Barack supporters, does clearly show that we don't have our shit together yet.

And I'd tell your teenagers to clean up after themselves or move the hell out -- you are not their janitor.  (The Fear of "God" -- you -- can help them to grow up).

by Juarez Traveller on 02/10/2008 09:08:30 AM EST

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Principles...they will say (none / 0)

Im sure that the people who call themselves true "conservatives" are voting out of principle or some other nonsense like that. For that matter, the evangelical types would be starting a third party now if it wasnt for Huckabee.

But you right...the pendulum is swinging back again..we've had 25 years of conservatives in some form or another in charge in DC. When Reagan came in and you were on the receiving end of his largess on taxes you did well...and when the other guy lost his job..you would think.."gee thats too bad " get in your BMW and go home.

The Reagan revolution as its called was rapidly overtaken by excessive greed. Now that other guy is you..and you take stock...after 25 years of crumbling public infrastructure, schools, medical care industrial infrastructure..you name it and still the "new idea" is to continue to make the government local state and federal so ineffective as to become a campaign issue. They are simply grabbing whats left and riding the train until it stops. So much for patriotism.

by MRFred on 02/10/2008 09:46:34 AM EST

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I agree (none / 0)
I think the bigger potential rift is among our friends in the left. Its like they just hit the lottery (when it comes to the actions of the last 8 years of Bush) but they dont know how to invest it wisely. They are like my teenagers with a giftcard at the mall - all they'll end up buying is shit that will clutter my house and ultimately piss me off when i have to clean it up later.

I think this is extremely likely, but I wouldn't call it a rift.  I'd call it a wasted opportunity.  The Democrats will have control of congress and the white house, but will they actually do anything with it that has lasting effect?  My bet is no.  I certainly haven't heard much exciting talk about progre ssive projects. 

by adamandruth on 02/10/2008 06:31:39 PM EST

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I highly doubt it (none / 0)

The super delegates aren't like regular voters, they're all elected Democrats and almost exclusively folks dedicated to the party.  Whether Hillary or Barack takes home the victory in pledged delegates I'd be shocked if the super delegates did anything to swing it in the other direction.

Howard Dean, and many others I'm sure, are working very hard behind the scenes to make sure we don't end up with a brokered convention or worse.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the majority of super delegates go with the popular vote to show a united front from the party.  We saw tons of them going to Kerry even though he had the nomination locked up and as much as that election mattered it wasn't nearly as important as this one.  And I don't think anyone liked Kerry as a presidential candidate nearly as much as they like either Obama or Clinton.

The Democrats are about to clobber the republicans in November.  And unlike the republicans who sold off everything in our house, they're going to do something about fixing that leaky roof and the broken down car in the lawn.  So what if we end up with an extra kitchen sink or two?

INDEPENDANCE DAY: January 20, 2009!  I can't fucking wait! 

by ynp7 on 02/10/2008 05:57:41 AM EST

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