Is It Okay to Hate a Politician?

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I know we're not supposed to use the word "hate" when talking about politicians. We're supposed to say we "dislike" their policies or even their tactics. We "disagree" with their positions and find their strategy "troublesome" and a "cause for concern."

The problem is I hate Mitt Romney. I don't just dislike him as a politician. I dislike him as a person.

Now you see, I'm not supposed to say that. That makes me sound angry and it's not allowed in the mainstream. On the other hand, of course, Mitt Romney can say anything he likes about us.

For example, today at CPAC, Romney said that if the Democrats won the election we would "surrender" to the terrorists. That's apparently perfectly acceptable thing to say. But I can't tell you what I really think of Mitt Romney.

First of all, I'd like to point out that his revered president never caught Osama bin Laden and said he was "not that concerned about him" (an idea Romney echoed at one point in the campaign). Can we call that surrendering? If Bush has given up trying, is there another word for it?

Of course, President Bush on Friday will say nearly the same thing at CPAC. He will say that our "prosperity and peace" will be jeopardized if we elect a Democrat. But we're supposed to respect this guy?

Remember this is a guy who got hundreds of thousands of people killed because he thought he was a messianic cowboy. His craven indifference to the lives of others cannot be mentioned in polite company. The fact that he is clearly a very, very stupid man is not a nice thing to say (watch Fred Kaplan of Slate and I debate this point here). And we are certainly not allowed to say that we hate him for getting all these people killed, for muddying the name of America, for authorizing torture and taking away our fundamental freedoms. No, that would be impolite and we can't have it.

Is what he did polite? Is his implication that Democrats are weak and would give in to the terrorists polite? Why are they allowed to be complete and utter assholes, but we're not allowed to call them out on it?

In the same CPAC speech, Romney implied that he was only in the race because America needed him. Please!!! Who doesn't hate this guy?

Remember this golden oldie below? Watch Mitt Romney pandering to the voters of Massachusetts when he was trying to prove he was more liberal than Ted Kennedy. As you watch him talk about abortion, remember that he switched positions and is now for imposing his personal beliefs on others.

And think about the relative he refers to here and how he used her death from an illegal abortion as a cheap political trick and then dumped her memory the minute he wanted to pander to pro-life conservatives and she was no longer useful:

This is a bad guy. A guy who would say anything to get elected because he has no inner core. No morality and apparently no conscience whatsoever. But we're the bad guys if we point out how absolutely craven he is?

These are the type of people who rip the country apart for their own personal gain. Thank God Romney is out of this race. But the robo-candidate will be back. He is promising to run again in 2012, no matter who the president is, who the other candidates are, what the issues are and what the state of the country is. Because he doesn't give a shit about the state of the country. He just wants to be president sooooo bad.

Remember, America needs him. What would we do without him?

What an asshole.

TYT

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It's okay, man. (none / 0)
Mitt Romney is finished.  He's done.  Fork, etc.  It's over.  He's never going to recover from this loss.  4 years from now we will not be hearing Romney declare for the presidency.  He will be working for some cushy lobbying company like all the rest of these slimy sons of bitches.

I know he's a terrible person.  I hear you.  He's a slimy chameleon of a waste of DNA.  But he isn't going ANYWHERE and isn't going to hurt ANYBODY, much less on the scale of the nation.

Trust me.  He IS gone for good, I don't care how much money he raises.  No way will he get any traction after failing the Republican base the way he has.

As a friend of mine would say, just caaaaaaaaallllllllllm down.

by jarett on 02/08/2008 04:53:50 AM EST

Why Not? (none / 0)
If you can hate a creep like Romney and still make rational arguments like that without getting an ulcer, why not?

I have to try to avoid it, though.  It tends to eat at my insides, eventually turning me into a jerk.  Bush, for instance.  This idiot has done more damage to our country than any other person in our history.  He has no regard for the law whatsoever, unless he can use it against others.  I'm not even sure that he'll voluntarily leave office next January.

I hate him I hate him I hate him.  I want him behind bars more than I want Osama bin Laden in prison -- and contrary to my belief that capital punishment is immoral, I want to be bin Laden's executioner so that I can make sure that he suffers agonizing pain on his way out.

But they're both still here and there's nothing I can do about it.

I've said that I'd like to see Joe Lieberman's bloody head on a pole outside the Capital building.  That almost sums up the respect that I have for that insane traitor.  But Lieberman is going to be around for a while -- he'll probably be useful for a few more months -- and I've got to tolerate his existence.

And then what?  He'll still be here for four more years.

I don't want that sour taste in my mouth for that long, so I'll have to find something better to which I can devote my energy, like kicking President Obama's ass until he actually gets public campaign financing through Congress.  Or promoting decent economy-stimulating and America-strengthening legislation (didn't FDR already show us how to do that?).  Or making sure that we start educating our citizens for the tough road ahead. Or...

Mitt's gone for now (praise-the-lord-I'm-not-re ligious-or-I'd-be-praising- the-lord).  You may have helped get rid of him.  Savor that victory for the next few minutes.  Then find somebody else worthy of all that crushing energy, and slice him/her down the middle with that razor-sharp mind of yours as if s/he was so much canned spam.  There are a lot of Republican creeps like Romney whose only concern for our country is what it can do for them and to hell with everyone else.

One down, a zillion to go.

Oh, by the way: Love your show.

by Juarez Traveller on 02/08/2008 05:14:20 AM EST

does venting get er done? (none / 0)

Hating an individual feels good and is cathartic but doesn't do much good beyond that.

Venting hatred changes the subject from rejection of someone's actions and focuses on the one-man spectacle. Everyone forgets the reason for the anger and instead looks at the guy losing it.

I've always found the best way to win an argument is to remain calm. Then without emotion, explain myself as clearly as possible showing the logic of my side and the fatal depravity of the other side.

by toosinbeymen on 02/08/2008 06:01:30 AM EST

Good to vent! (none / 0)
I don't know whether it's 'okay to hate a politician', if you're looking for some sort of moral guidance, but I've got to tell you how much I enjoyed your rant against Romney on yesterday's show.  Nothing you said was pulled out of...the air...your arguments were completely reasonable.  Cleary Romney has a much higher opinion of himself than do the voters.  What does it say about a guy who sinks so much of his own money into a campaign? He's got more ego than brains!

by Kenn1959Toronto on 02/08/2008 11:28:53 AM EST

It's okay if you take your ulcer pills (none / 0)

Let me chime in on this from Michigan, one of the "early" primaries that perhaps helped him hobble along early in the race. While I voted on the castrated democratic ticket, you all know that Romney beat out McCain here on the republican ticket. Are we really that stupid and evil in Michigan? No.

My young middle-class family is living in Michigan's worst economic condition, like, ever. We literally have the highest unemployment rate in the country and our foreclosure rates are reaching the highest the US. Our Michigan government shut down a couple of months ago  because our democratic and republican lawmakers cannot f'ing get their priorities straight. It is winter now so every day is gray, gloomy, and icy.

We are all trying our best to pull through.

So, in waltzed McCain and Romney. McCain, ever so poignantly, called Michigan "the canary in the mindshaft" for the rest of the country. That we in Michigan are doing so poorly, that we have lost jobs that will never return, and that we have already essentially died in an economic warning to the rest of the US.

News flash. We know. We actually live here and breath and eat it everyday.

So Romney took the smart road and made a bunch of promises that we all know he couldn't keep. At least the democrats knew that... I really hope that my republican counterparts are not so blind as to recognize that he wasn't going to make good on any of them. But it was all very appealing. Someone was finally wishing us well.

I'm not saying it justifies his win here. In fact, it backs up your point that he will say anything to anyone to get elected. In Michigan, he courted the broke and desperate. Does this just make you hate him more?

 

AIO, QUANTITAS MAGNA FRUMENTORUM EST

by DJ Snowflake on 02/08/2008 11:47:15 AM EST

Why is bothering you now Cenk, its been going on (none / 0)

on your Forum and others ,along with a few other falsehoods, for years.

Its all from the same playbook. Mitts just trying to say "See...aren't you sorry you didnt support me. Im just as fucked up as you are. I belong!"

 

 Is his implication that Democrats are weak and would give in to the terrorists polite? Why are they allowed to be complete and utter assholes, but we're not allowed to call them out on it?


  • Dems think our troops are "Nazis" http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/25/21313 4/43/102#102
  • Dems are starting their vicious attack on American identity, national religion, taxpayers etc, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/22/11525 /191/10#10
  • Voting for Democrats are at best like voting for street bums and at worst a lot like voting for terrorists.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 10/14/155517/23/33#33
  • Dems do want to take away our guns and they do want to limit our freedom of speech http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/20/13312/ 0705/3#3
  • La Raza is running and directing what the dems do http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/14/16394/ 1135/15#15
  • The dems desire to defeat the troops in Iraq and Afganistan. They want to impeach Bush because that is another way to victory in the war against the war (or another way to defeat the U.S., whichever way you look at it.) http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/9#9
  • Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/2#2
  • the Terrorists and the Democrats have had a lot of success in their attempts to break the will to fight of the American people. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • Many Americans have lsot the will to fight the terrorists after the non-stop rhetoric coming from the left and the L&S divisions of our campuses http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • The Dems mato is defeat. Common sense tells us they were going to surrender to the terrorists if they took power incongress.This defeatism means implementing dates for withdrawal and defunding the our troops. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/28/102731 /281/11#11
  • Nancy hangs the troops out to dry to let the Americans know who the dems really are and to lets the Islamos know that your party supports them http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/23/14658/ 5848/1#1
  • Go complain to Harry Reid who is heading up the defeat our troopsbillhttp://www.theyou ngturks.com/comments/2007/3 /2/941/60818/2#2
  • the Dems support the troops by supporting their defeat. The dems can't be trusted on any matters of national security.http://www.theyoun gturks.com/comments/2007/2/ 25/61739/1922/63#63
  • I posted his closing speech in the effort to stop the Dems pro-Al Qaeda resolution.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 2/25/61739/1922/54#54
  • Dems ARE unpatriotic bafoons, and the republicans aren't. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/16/13593/ 4879/2#2
  • Well if there is one thing the Dems don't do is " Caring about our country." They've been working on tearing apart the ideaof what it means to be American since way before the farewell speech of Reagan where he talked about the elimination of nationalpride and collective memory.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/17 /22318/8973/22#22
  • the Dem supported the troops by supporting their defeat in the 60s. Now they "support" the troops by supporting their defeatin the war on terror. It comes to reason that the Democrats DO NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/15 /175041/565/41#41
  • How did they manage to trick the voters into this new hope ( Obama ed.) filled bipartisan agenda when the cooks are running their party?http://www.theyoungtu rks.com/comments/2007/2/6/1 1367/49130/2#2
  • Like I said, if it wasn't for the Democrats hindering the war effort, funding, and the troops we'd have won these years ago. What we need is a much larger standing army, more media control, and fewer rules. Unfortunately Al Qaeda has learned to game our media in order to dispirit the American people and the dems just act an amplifier for their message. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/2/18320/2 3155/9#9
  • CNN can play the terrorists propaganda vids along side of the dem resolution supporting the terrorists.
  • Well I do know why the dems voted for General Patraeus and his plan for a surge along with giving funding to president Bush for the troops surge yet pass resolutions opposing what they just did\approved. It's all politics. Their rabid anti-American base demands that the dems politicize the war and pretend to not support the troop http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/5/3/12955/5 1892/8#8
  • the CNN sniper video of troops getting shot that was filmed by the terrorists in Iraq for propaganda. They want to break the American will so they give the tapes to the libs in our lib media who have like minded goals.  http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/1/5/19828/5 3784/2#2
  • The dems are invested in defeat, and cheer it on http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/12/3/151518 /361/4#4

See thats just the tip of the iceberg....
 

by MRFred on 02/08/2008 12:36:20 PM EST

YES its ok it shows passion (none / 0)
 

by Chinese Democracy on 02/08/2008 12:54:40 PM EST

Which one was Romney? (none / 0)

The giant douche or the turd sandwich?

by Dogger on 02/08/2008 01:58:34 PM EST

Hae. Hate. (none / 0)
"Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of wafer thin printed circuits that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. Hate. Hate." -- Harlan Ellison, "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream"

SAM: What's new, Normie?
NORM: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach and they're demanding beer.

by Spinny on 02/08/2008 02:42:39 PM EST

don't be a hater (none / 0)
Let it go and give the old yogi bear a hug.  Now if by chance McCain gets elected and goes ape shit, I won't be a happy camper.  Even though I despise Romney's politics, I would of trusted him over McCain anyday of the week..... old John is a ticking time bomb and your worse case scenario blows!



by rev24 on 02/08/2008 02:49:45 PM EST

Let it go ? (none / 0)

Let it go !!  Hell No, Don't Let It Go!

We let it go in 1993 and what did we get in return?  $50 million in investigations and impeachment. When the GOPigs had all three branches in 2001, what did those thugs do? Squashed us like bugs. Amended legislation in secret. Called us traitors if we asked simple questions, or suggested that they think before acting. When House Dems wanted a few hours to read hundred of pages of last-minute amendments to legislation, they called the capitol police and tried to have them arrested.

Let it go? Only when they are in jail, stripped of everything they cherish, beaten, stoned, reviled and dead, Dead, DEAD!!

PS: it's perfectly okay to hate people who do loathsome things.  We still hate Nazis, and for good reason. Should the GOP be exempt just because they fall short of the Nazis?

by Dogger on 02/08/2008 03:41:24 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Testify! (none / 0)

SAM: What's new, Normie?
NORM: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach and they're demanding beer.

by Spinny on 02/08/2008 03:51:09 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Whew! (none / 0)

Felt good to get that off my chest.

by Dogger on 02/08/2008 03:55:26 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Whew! (none / 0)

Felt good to get that off my chest.

by Dogger on 02/08/2008 03:55:27 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Bigger Fish to Fry (none / 0)
I respect the passion, but it's time for a number of progressives/liberals/Cenk to refocus.  If only Cenk would spend an ounce of passion towards pointing out the insanity/flip-flops of John McCain!  I do commend Brave New Films for doing their homework on the REAL John McCain...

by rev24 on 02/08/2008 04:00:38 PM EST

[ Parent ]
insanity (none / 0)
Just for the record, I'm referring to McCain's "insane" views on foreign policy, in specific Iraq and "Islamo-Fascism" as he puts it.  In Cenk's words today, he even admitted that "McCain is the worst on Iraq."  Again, I say get over your personal hang-ups and think of the future filled war with McCain as a president...

John Bolton as VP - I rest my case....

by rev24 on 02/08/2008 04:37:33 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Plenty of Hate to go around, methinks (none / 0)
We're not going to use it up on ol' Mitt, never fear.  Folks are just saying their fond farewells; John "100 years!" McCain will be on the menu soon enough.

SAM: What's new, Normie?
NORM: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach and they're demanding beer.

by Spinny on 02/08/2008 04:43:05 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Whew! (none / 0)

I wish I'd said it that way!

But exactly how short does the GOP fall from the Nazis?  Not very far from what I can see.  They've restricted our freedom, supplanted the rule of law with the rule of a man, invaded Iraq, killed hundreds of thousands of people, and set up America for defeat, and in general they are as fascist as fascist can be.

Okay, so the GOP hasn't killed quite as many people.  But still...

by Juarez Traveller on 02/08/2008 07:22:03 PM EST

[ Parent ]
How 'bout them Vols! (none / 0)
"Let it go? Only when they are in jail, stripped of everything they cherish, beaten, stoned, reviled and dead, Dead, DEAD!!"

Dogger, you need to calm down. You live in a state that gave the presidency to George W Bush, over native son, Al Gore. You are surrounded by Republicans. Your hatred of all things GOP is making you unhappy.

There are a few other Tennesseeans who participate in this forum.

This guy is from Kingsport.

I live in Texas, but I grew up in the Tri-Cities, and I hold a couple of degrees from UTK.

Try to be more tolerant of the other side. It will make you happier.

by KenTX on 02/09/2008 05:06:54 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Ahahaha (none / 0)

The irony...

"Try to be more tolerant of the other side. It will make you happier."

That'd only be funnier if Bush said it! 

Cynicism is poison to reform and pumps life into the status quo.

by prezalex on 02/11/2008 11:35:49 PM EST

[ Parent ]
WTF? (none / 0)
I tried that.  Especially after 9/11. It did no good.

The GOPigs acted like animals. So I say, hunt 'em for sport.

by Dogger on 02/26/2008 05:27:25 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Rocky Flop (none / 0)
Sorry about the Harold Ford Jr. campaign. He was running well until he went to Neyland Stadium. It only served to reinforce what a phony he was.
rocky flop

by KenTX on 02/26/2008 06:07:00 AM EST

[ Parent ]
A rationalization (none / 0)
Yeah I heard that rationalization. Cause Corker was a real man of the people.

People won't own up to racism, so they need something trivial to hang their orange caps on. Did folks object to him wearing orange, or smiling at the white blond?

I worked in the campaign, doing face to face, so unlike the phone bank people, I never heard the word "nigger" used against Ford.  My friends who made calls heard the real, ugly undercurrent of this GOP stronghold.

by Dogger on 02/26/2008 08:31:13 AM EST

[ Parent ]
he'll be back (none / 0)
according to Glenn Beck appearing on CNN yesterday -- Romney is a 1976 Ronald Reagan -- it wasn't his time this year, but he'll take it all in 2012.  not that anyone should ever listen to what Glenn Beck has to say, but -- i think he's right on this one -- Romney stayed in for super tuesday, it didn't work, so now he's just trying so save face for his next run at the white house.

by kishany444 on 02/08/2008 03:31:35 PM EST

uh (none / 0)
Uhh...do you hate the power craven Clintons too?

by acroso on 02/08/2008 05:50:05 PM EST

WTF? (none / 0)
Health care for children, Family medical leave, a war without a single US fatality.

No wonder you hate him.  He proved governemnt can work, which means all Republicans are liars when they deny that.

by Dogger on 02/08/2008 06:00:18 PM EST

[ Parent ]
subject (none / 0)
I was only talking about how they are power craven and have plotted since 2000 as to how they can get back to the WH again. That's what the criticism of Romney was aimed towards- power craveness and hunger to be back in 2012.

by acroso on 02/08/2008 06:11:25 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Craven (none / 0)
From M-W online:

1 (archaic) : defeated, vanquished

2: lacking the least bit of courage : contemptibly fainthearted

synonyms see cowardly

How is someone "power craven?"

SAM: What's new, Normie?
NORM: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach and they're demanding beer.

by Spinny on 02/08/2008 06:18:57 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Liarcros is rarely right about anything.... (none / 0)

These are just a selection of your lies and prevarications...prove just one...liar

Is his implication that Democrats are weak and would give in to the terrorists polite? Why are they allowed to be complete and utter assholes, but we're not allowed to call them out on it?


  • Dems think our troops are "Nazis" http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/25/21313 4/43/102#102
  • Dems are starting their vicious attack on American identity, national religion, taxpayers etc, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/22/11525 /191/10#10
  • Voting for Democrats are at best like voting for street bums and at worst a lot like voting for terrorists.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 10/14/155517/23/33#33
  • Dems do want to take away our guns and they do want to limit our freedom of speech http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/20/13312/ 0705/3#3
  • La Raza is running and directing what the dems do http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/14/16394/ 1135/15#15
  • The dems desire to defeat the troops in Iraq and Afganistan. They want to impeach Bush because that is another way to victory in the war against the war (or another way to defeat the U.S., whichever way you look at it.) http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/9#9
  • Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/2#2
  • the Terrorists and the Democrats have had a lot of success in their attempts to break the will to fight of the American people. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • Many Americans have lsot the will to fight the terrorists after the non-stop rhetoric coming from the left and the L&S divisions of our campuses http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • The Dems mato is defeat. Common sense tells us they were going to surrender to the terrorists if they took power incongress.This defeatism means implementing dates for withdrawal and defunding the our troops. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/28/102731 /281/11#11
  • Nancy hangs the troops out to dry to let the Americans know who the dems really are and to lets the Islamos know that your party supports them http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/23/14658/ 5848/1#1
  • Go complain to Harry Reid who is heading up the defeat our troopsbillhttp://www.theyou ngturks.com/comments/2007/3 /2/941/60818/2#2
  • the Dems support the troops by supporting their defeat. The dems can't be trusted on any matters of national security.http://www.theyoun gturks.com/comments/2007/2/ 25/61739/1922/63#63
  • I posted his closing speech in the effort to stop the Dems pro-Al Qaeda resolution.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 2/25/61739/1922/54#54
  • Dems ARE unpatriotic bafoons, and the republicans aren't. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/16/13593/ 4879/2#2
  • Well if there is one thing the Dems don't do is " Caring about our country." They've been working on tearing apart the ideaof what it means to be American since way before the farewell speech of Reagan where he talked about the elimination of nationalpride and collective memory.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/17 /22318/8973/22#22
  • the Dem supported the troops by supporting their defeat in the 60s. Now they "support" the troops by supporting their defeatin the war on terror. It comes to reason that the Democrats DO NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/15 /175041/565/41#41
  • How did they manage to trick the voters into this new hope ( Obama ed.) filled bipartisan agenda when the cooks are running their party?http://www.theyoungtu rks.com/comments/2007/2/6/1 1367/49130/2#2
  • Like I said, if it wasn't for the Democrats hindering the war effort, funding, and the troops we'd have won these years ago. What we need is a much larger standing army, more media control, and fewer rules. Unfortunately Al Qaeda has learned to game our media in order to dispirit the American people and the dems just act an amplifier for their message. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/2/18320/2 3155/9#9
  • CNN can play the terrorists propaganda vids along side of the dem resolution supporting the terrorists.
  • Well I do know why the dems voted for General Patraeus and his plan for a surge along with giving funding to president Bush for the troops surge yet pass resolutions opposing what they just did\approved. It's all politics. Their rabid anti-American base demands that the dems politicize the war and pretend to not support the troop http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/5/3/12955/5 1892/8#8
  • the CNN sniper video of troops getting shot that was filmed by the terrorists in Iraq for propaganda. They want to break the American will so they give the tapes to the libs in our lib media who have like minded goals.  http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/1/5/19828/5 3784/2#2
  • The dems are invested in defeat, and cheer it on http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/12/3/151518 /361/4#4

by MRFred on 02/08/2008 09:38:14 PM EST

[ Parent ]
no (none / 0)
heck, I don't even dislike them that much!  I'll reserve the hate for the real winners.  but that is just me.

by desertpear on 02/08/2008 06:22:58 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Explain your comments... (none / 0)

These are just a selection of your lies and prevarications...prove just one...liar

Is his implication that Democrats are weak and would give in to the terrorists polite? Why are they allowed to be complete and utter assholes, but we're not allowed to call them out on it?


  • Dems think our troops are "Nazis" http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/25/21313 4/43/102#102
  • Dems are starting their vicious attack on American identity, national religion, taxpayers etc, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/22/11525 /191/10#10
  • Voting for Democrats are at best like voting for street bums and at worst a lot like voting for terrorists.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 10/14/155517/23/33#33
  • Dems do want to take away our guns and they do want to limit our freedom of speech http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/20/13312/ 0705/3#3
  • La Raza is running and directing what the dems do http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/14/16394/ 1135/15#15
  • The dems desire to defeat the troops in Iraq and Afganistan. They want to impeach Bush because that is another way to victory in the war against the war (or another way to defeat the U.S., whichever way you look at it.) http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/9#9
  • Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/2#2
  • the Terrorists and the Democrats have had a lot of success in their attempts to break the will to fight of the American people. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • Many Americans have lsot the will to fight the terrorists after the non-stop rhetoric coming from the left and the L&S divisions of our campuses http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • The Dems mato is defeat. Common sense tells us they were going to surrender to the terrorists if they took power incongress.This defeatism means implementing dates for withdrawal and defunding the our troops. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/28/102731 /281/11#11
  • Nancy hangs the troops out to dry to let the Americans know who the dems really are and to lets the Islamos know that your party supports them http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/23/14658/ 5848/1#1
  • Go complain to Harry Reid who is heading up the defeat our troopsbillhttp://www.theyou ngturks.com/comments/2007/3 /2/941/60818/2#2
  • the Dems support the troops by supporting their defeat. The dems can't be trusted on any matters of national security.http://www.theyoun gturks.com/comments/2007/2/ 25/61739/1922/63#63
  • I posted his closing speech in the effort to stop the Dems pro-Al Qaeda resolution.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 2/25/61739/1922/54#54
  • Dems ARE unpatriotic bafoons, and the republicans aren't. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/16/13593/ 4879/2#2
  • Well if there is one thing the Dems don't do is " Caring about our country." They've been working on tearing apart the ideaof what it means to be American since way before the farewell speech of Reagan where he talked about the elimination of nationalpride and collective memory.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/17 /22318/8973/22#22
  • the Dem supported the troops by supporting their defeat in the 60s. Now they "support" the troops by supporting their defeatin the war on terror. It comes to reason that the Democrats DO NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/15 /175041/565/41#41
  • How did they manage to trick the voters into this new hope ( Obama ed.) filled bipartisan agenda when the cooks are running their party?http://www.theyoungtu rks.com/comments/2007/2/6/1 1367/49130/2#2
  • Like I said, if it wasn't for the Democrats hindering the war effort, funding, and the troops we'd have won these years ago. What we need is a much larger standing army, more media control, and fewer rules. Unfortunately Al Qaeda has learned to game our media in order to dispirit the American people and the dems just act an amplifier for their message. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/2/18320/2 3155/9#9
  • CNN can play the terrorists propaganda vids along side of the dem resolution supporting the terrorists.
  • Well I do know why the dems voted for General Patraeus and his plan for a surge along with giving funding to president Bush for the troops surge yet pass resolutions opposing what they just did\approved. It's all politics. Their rabid anti-American base demands that the dems politicize the war and pretend to not support the troop http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/5/3/12955/5 1892/8#8
  • the CNN sniper video of troops getting shot that was filmed by the terrorists in Iraq for propaganda. They want to break the American will so they give the tapes to the libs in our lib media who have like minded goals.  http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/1/5/19828/5 3784/2#2
  • The dems are invested in defeat, and cheer it on http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/12/3/151518 /361/4#4

by MRFred on 02/08/2008 09:37:44 PM EST

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hate (none / 0)

Cenk, you are in sort of a unique position because of your show.  You need to keep drawing new people in and not alienate too many, but what most of us love about you is your passion and ability to cut through the bullshit to the meat of the matter.  I really like it when you use your hate to fuel a tirade, such as your Dec. 27th religion rant.  I just showed that to an older friend last night and he was captivated by the first 5 minutes into your rant and now will be watching the show.  So, I guess I think some hating of politicians is okay, but mostly we need to channel that energy into solving problems and empowering the politicians that speak for us. 

 I so hate some of those guys too.  When I think of Romney, I have only one image--that of a guy hosing down a shivering, stressed out, shit-covered dog with a jet of cold water from a hose.  It just creeps me out that someone would do that to the family dog, but I'm a sensitive gal.  I hate his sons too. 

by desertpear on 02/08/2008 06:30:36 PM EST

It's VERY OKAY to HATE that bastard, Romney. (none / 0)
He came into my state, Massachusetts, for one reason:

to get his conservative bonafides by throwing gay people like myself under the bus.

He did everything he could to unravel our chance at having the same marriage rights as straight citizens.

And what did it ultimately get him? NOTHING.

I'm quite happy that he wasted so much of his millions on this failed effort.

I HATE THE SON OF A BITCH.

by centurion on 02/08/2008 07:10:30 PM EST

If only... (none / 0)

Actually, I wish that he had stayed in the race a little longer, forcing him to spend even more of his money.

But please know that a lot of us in the straight community view your plight as an important civil rights issue.  You are not alone.

by Juarez Traveller on 02/08/2008 07:41:05 PM EST

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And see (none / 0)
I thought Mittens would've been on the right side of civil rights...he "saw" his dad "march" "with" Dr. King in the "1963", right?

Cynicism is poison to reform and pumps life into the status quo.

by prezalex on 02/11/2008 11:38:42 PM EST

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Example of a "bad guy". (none / 0)
"This is a bad guy. A guy who would say anything to get elected because he has no inner core. No morality and apparently no conscience whatsoever."

Listen to a guy who fits this description nicely.

by KenTX on 02/08/2008 08:13:23 PM EST

I love youtube. (none / 0)
It allows the rebroadcast of clips from people who have no inner core, no morality and apparently no conscience whatsoever.




by KenTX on 02/08/2008 08:51:13 PM EST

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History's Greatest Moments (none / 0)
Here is an uncomfortable moment for a person with no inner core, no morality and apparently no conscience whatsoever.

by KenTX on 02/08/2008 09:07:49 PM EST

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he really blew it there (none / 0)

He should have done like shrub and told the guy, fuck you, I'm not answering your questions.  I don't have to, I'm the president.  I'm the decider.

The cons would respect that. 

by bfaul on 02/09/2008 02:14:15 PM EST

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More Examples of "Bad guys" (none / 0)

Here's a guy who got his mistess pregnant, allowed his wife to abuse his dauther and was accused of rape. He also looked the American people and Congress right square in the eye and lied  . Can you guess who else  has no inner core no morality and apparently no conscience whatsoever?

Heres a devout "Christian" who made up lies to decieve a nation obviously no morality and apparently no conscience whatsoever.

by MRFred on 02/08/2008 10:07:46 PM EST

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Tisk, Tisk (none / 0)

MRFred,

I'm sure you're being too harsh on Reagan here.  You see, although he had traded arms for hostages, he was in the early throws of altzheimer's dementia.  He just forgot that he had done it.

by bfaul on 02/09/2008 02:17:46 PM EST

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A;ll of that was well before (none / 0)

the AHLD set in. Kens whole reason for being is Clinton bashing. WJC raised his taxes and ever sense hes be on the warpath. Maybe Bill should have made some arms for hostages deal...everything would have been Ok.

I didn't like Reagan much...but it was a shame he died of AHLD. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.  I'm watching my ether do the same thing as we speak.


by MRFred on 02/09/2008 03:24:18 PM EST

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since (none / 0)
damn

by MRFred on 02/09/2008 07:21:54 PM EST

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