Different Standards for Black and White Preachers

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Rudy Giuliani's priest has been accused in grand jury proceedings of molesting several children and covering up the molestation of others. Giuliani would not disavow him on the campaign trail and still works with him.

Mitt Romney was part of a church that did not view black Americans as equals and actively discriminated against them. He stayed with that church all the way into his early thirties, until they were finally forced to change their policies to come into compliance with civil rights legislation. Romney never disavowed his church back then or now. He said he was proud of the faith of his fathers.

Jerry Falwell said America had 9/11 coming because we tolerated gays, feminists and liberals. It was our fault. Our chickens had come home to roost, if you will. John McCain proudly received his support and even spoke at his university's commencement.

Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great Whore." He has said that the Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of course, the Anti-Christ will also be Jewish). He has said all Muslims are trained to kill and will be part of the devil's army when Armageddon comes (which he hopes is soon). John McCain continues to say he is proud of Reverend Hagee's endorsement.

Reverend Rod Parsley believes America was founded to destroy Islam. Since this is such an outlandish claim, I have to add for the record, that he is not kidding. Reverend Parsley says Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" brought down from a "demon spirit." Of course, we are in a war against all Muslims, including presumably Muslim-Americans. Buts since Parsley believes this is a Christian nation and that it should be run as a theocracy, he is not very concerned what Muslim-Americans think.

John McCain says Reverend Rod Parsley is his "spiritual guide."

What separates all of these outrageous preachers from Barack Obama's? You guessed it. They're white and Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not. If it's not racism that's causing the disparity in media treatment of these preachers, then what is it?

I'm willing to listen to other possible explanations. And I am inclined to believe that the people these preachers go after are more important than the race of the preacher. It's one thing to go after gays, liberals and Muslims - that seems to be perfectly acceptable in America - it's another to accuse white folks of not living up to their ideals.

I think there is another factor at play as well. The media is deathly afraid of calling out preachers of any stripe for insane propaganda from the pulpits for fear that they will be labeled as anti-Christian. But criticism of Rev. Wright falls into their comfort zone. It's easy to blame him for being anti-American because he criticizes American foreign and domestic policy.

If Rev. Wright had preached about discriminating against gay Americans or Muslims, there probably would not have been any outcry at all. That falls into the category of "respect their hateful opinions because they cloak themselves in the church."

But one thing is indisputable - the enormous disparity in how the media has covered these white preachers as opposed to Rev. Wright. Have you ever even heard of Rod Parsley? As you can see from what I listed above, all of these white preachers have said and done the most outlandish and offensive things you can imagine - and hardly a peep.

If the disparity in coverage isn't racist, then what is it?

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(I'm deeply sorry.  I really do apologize for that title.)

The fact that there are different standards has nothing to do with race.  It does have to do with who supports you.  Republicans are hipocrits because they have to be in order to gain power.  If they were honest then they couldn't sell their policies, so they have to lie and take whatever allies they can get.  Those allies usually are also as hipocritically immoral as you can get without actually having a pointed tail and horns.

by EveningStarNM on 03/19/2008 12:53:20 PM EST


Cenk,

You of all people should understand that the "media" (your show included) is ultimatley first and foremost a business...

The idea of business is to make profit...

In order to make profit, you must sell or persuade people with money to buy things...

Racism sells in America because most people in America still have many racist tendencies and attitudes. To deny this is silly and unwise...

Its not like Americans have Klan suits hanging in their closets, or we still use seperate facilities - but as a whole, Americans are still not comfortable with other ethnicities and such. We can say we aren't, but saying its so doesn't make it so...

Ive addressed this issue earlier to the shegrin (sp) of many of the bloggers here, but Liberals (especially the Obamabots) have this idea that we can just "look past the American people and their flaws and raise the rhetoric level above such pettiness..."

The media cannot sell "being above the fray" to the common man. They cannot make profit with their advertisers by having intellectual debates on what is appropriate or not... They sell things by showing shiny flashy things and by fear...
The Bush people have made selling fear into an art-form...the Republicans are very good at this, and have gotten everything they want because of it...

Am I saying its right? Of course not, but until the media is not a business, we cannot stop it. This is Free Market Capatalism at its core...

Until that is stopped, until we stop supporting the machine that keeps putting all this stuff out, we will be powerless to stop it from continuing...

Hagee, Parsley and and the Priest/Molestor dont sell as well on the media because everyone knows they are just pigs and the story is old... No one buys time for them because they only represent a fringe of America, and most importantly...

They're not a black guy associated with the black presidential candidate that hates America and hates Whitey...

Even if it isnt true, this is the point that sells, and the media is gonna milk it for every dime (especially in this wonderful economy!)

Is it Racist? Yes. Will It Stop? No.

Whatcha gonna do about it?

Thanks...


by bobo1 on 03/19/2008 12:57:17 PM EST


can be heard every Sunday on a right wing so-called Christian cable network called Trinity Broadcasting. It's not only those two spewing this stuff, though they do seem to be the worst. I am a Christian myself and let me say I do not proscribe to any of the over the top voodoo comments coming from these guys. Christ is about love and foregiveness, not hate. Real Christians inspire others, not ram our religion down other people's throats.

by mijoh on 03/19/2008 03:04:42 PM EST


Don't get sucked into the "racism" trap. If those preachers were liberal they would be getting the same treatment.

The corporate media is not our friend

They turned Gore into a liar (based entirely on lies that they repeat to this day)

They turned Gore into the flip-flopper (despite the fact the Bush flip-flopped on the same issue)

They turned Hillary into a racist (despite her long record of support for Civil Rights)

The media was aware of this story a year ago but they didn't run with it until now. This was done strictly for the purpose of dividing the Dems.

Now, after his speech, the media is back to "loving" Mr. Obama. How much you want to bet that changes after the Dem convention?

by LORD FOUL on 03/19/2008 04:26:36 PM EST


I keep seeing this theme in your postings over and over: 

They're going to attack Obama!  You just wait!  It's going to be horrible!

Uh, don't you think they're going to lay into Hillary too?  You've said she wasn't your choice.  Is the net sum total of your support for her that you percieve her as more resistant to mud-slinging?  

Hey guys!  Lookie here!  You throw shit at her and it won't stick.  Splat!  See, slides ride off!  Lookie here!  Splat!  See, ain't that somethin'! 

by bfaul on 03/20/2008 11:52:57 AM EST

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Yes they are going to attack Obama

Going to attack Hillary, Going to? They've been attacking her since Oct. Did you see the Oct debate? No candidate was EVER treated in that fashion. ( I was actually ashamed that my candidate "Edwards" wh o went along with it. Only Richardson had the decency not to play along)

Check out media matters, bartcop or dailyhowler. They have consistantly listed the attacks, misstatements and outright lies made by the news media, not only against Clinton but against a whole host of Democrats.

Remember the "as far as I know" answer to the "muslim" question. Watch the whole clip, before and after. There was no "implication" in anything she said. Yet liberals on this very blog went nuts. In fact time after time the corporate news media have twisted her words and gave "their" own meaning to them.

The big story yesterday was about how she was at the WH while Bill was betting his knob polished. Countdown did a special comment against her over the "Ferraro" flap, never noting that Obama himself had stated that his race had helped his campaign. When the Wright flap came up there was no "special comment" there was an interview. No mention or reference has been made to the Obama (Imus) statement. She has been painted a racist despite her long history in helping the Civil rights movement

Despite all this she is still in the race.

Imagine, for 1 second, what if Obama hadn't run? What if right now Hillary was the nominee? Would you think the media was being fair to her or would you be irate over the terrible coverage she has gotten?

Only recently has Obama gotten any negative coverage.

What if the front page of every news paper led with this "Obama calls white Grandmother a racist" or "Obama throws Grandmother under a bus to score political points" and all they focused on was his statement about his grandmother. What if they accused him of trying to use the speech to distract voters from his real beliefs. or wrote "con job".

What would be your reaction? You would go ballistic and rightfully so! That is one of the reasons I get so pissed when Liberal play into this (its ok it is only Hillary) because it is not. They did the same thing to Gore. They did the same to Kerry and yes eventually they will do the same thing to Obama.

Simply put Obama has never faced an antagonistic news media or the republican slime machine. In fact he has been hit with only one "so-called" negative ad and it worked against him. (and now that ad is being called racist).

Let me put it to this way, imagine an ad (why does Obama hate america) Obama not wearing a flag pin and not crossing his heart. Obamas wife (I am FINALLY proud to be an American) followed closely by Rev. Wrights greatest hits.

Imagine that ad, every hour or so for 2 months prior to the election. (not to mention any other stuff they may be in the works).

Hillary's closet has been opened to the light of day forever.

Obama's closet just got cracked open. (the media has been aware of Rev. Wright for over a year) He needs to empty his closet now or watch it get kicked open and made public in the heat of the most important presidential election in our lifetime.




by LORD FOUL on 03/20/2008 06:31:33 PM EST

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There are more powerful things than smear, even in the world of politics.

by bfaul on 03/20/2008 07:44:39 PM EST

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I hope you right but past elections say something different.

by LORD FOUL on 03/21/2008 10:19:34 AM EST

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"Different Standards for Black and White"

There. That about does it.

by MedfordTim on 03/19/2008 04:30:33 PM EST


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