Hillary's Bible Study "Cult"

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I found an article about the same topic Cenk briefly mentioned; Hillary's Bibly Study "Cult".

The article may be found Here. 

And it appears that he wasn't kidding.
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How much does this affect your opinion of Hillary?
It bothers me a great deal, as a Hillary Supporter 0%
It merely re-enforces my opinions, as an Obama Supporter 61%
It definatly re-enforces my opinions, as a conservative 0%
It does not matter at all 30%
Its totally false, a cheap smear 7%
It increases my support of Hillary 0%

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My option would be, this is somewhat worrisome in the sense that I don't like who she is associating with but I don't really think that the nuttiest aspects of this reflect her real opinions.  She just got involved for political reasons most likely. 

But I'm not sure about it.  I would want to know more.  Like how much does she buy into all of it.   

by blueheartinaredstate on 03/20/2008 05:45:01 PM EST


Obama's church has published a terror manifesto.

 

Remember....

 

<h3>Obama: My grandmother who fears black men is a “typical white person”</h3>

 

by acroso on 03/20/2008 05:54:04 PM EST


The problem with this news article is that it is only being posted on hard conservative leaning sites. It been taken up by any legit news organizations.

In addition, the church only posted COPIES of the article, which could, frankly, mean damn near anything. 

by Telrich on 03/20/2008 06:47:21 PM EST

[ Parent ]
It was in the pastor's newsletter. I wonder if Obama receieves the newsletter?

by acroso on 03/20/2008 06:50:37 PM EST

[ Parent ]
I'd say either no or he's not read it.

by Telrich on 03/20/2008 06:55:10 PM EST

[ Parent ]

Did you think that no one would actually read this article?  When you say it compares Hamas revolutionary documents to the Declaration of Independance?  Are you freakin' KIDDING me? 

 I guess you must think I'm the same kind of moron that eats up neo-con opinions like they're the gospel.

 That article clearly says that you shouldn't judge a movement solely on it's founding documents anymore than we should judge America by it's founding documents.  Otherwise you would have to conclude that we were a slave owning culture.

Just because two things are mentioned in the same sentence doesn't mean that they are related.

And the rest of the article is mainly talking about the legitimate grievances of the Palestinian people.  

I HATE Hamas' tactics, but they and the Palestinians have legitimate grievances.  Don't confuse the two.

PLUS, why don't you talk about the LA times and how they are a hate-filled organization with a terrorist manifesto?  They were the original posters of this.

I believe Wright published this because of the mention of the slaves in the Constitution and that of course orginially all men were NOT created equal in the eyes of the leaders of America.  Black men were NOT equal.  He probably also published this because the article mentions that how can Hamas come to the table for negotiations when the other side refuses to acknowledge the crimes of the past where people were booted out of their houses and off their land.  In order to right race relations in this country we MUST recognize the injustices of the past.  We MUST recognize that injustices continue in the present.  We MUST be willing to change this to progress into the future.

He was printing this to make an A-NAL-O-GY!  An imperfect one to be sure, but one that sought to draw attention to injustices in other parts of the world.

At no point was the pastor saying that he wanted to take up the tactics of Hamas.   To draw that conclusion from a reprint of an article originially posted in the LA times shows all the intelligence of a flat-headed knuckle-dragger.

Jesus save me from hate-filled racist morons who post this kind of crap and call it proof of ANYTHING!

Whew.

 

I feel better now.  :)

by blueheartinaredstate on 03/20/2008 09:37:30 PM EST

[ Parent ]
"To draw that conclusion from a reprint of an article originially posted in the LA times shows all the intelligence of a flat-headed knuckle-dragger.
You have crafted a perfect description of the "neo cons" who now run the Republican Party.  Bravo.

"If you're not pumped up, then get the hell out, 'cause you don't belong here." -- Cenk Uygur

by Spinny on 03/21/2008 08:18:46 AM EST

[ Parent ]

Everything Liarcoso posts is either a lie , prevarication or outright plagiarizing of "conservative" hate sites. You should know that He/she trolls other websites "rollplaying" in various personalities.

He/she loves to plagerize of post dead links from WingNutNet Daily where most of the conservative falsehoods and extremist hate speech can be found 

Hey, liar boy, explaine these  inflammatory comments your anti American flare. Maybe you could enlighten us as to where you came up with this information other than regurgitating Rush Limbaugh? Prove your lies.

  • Dems think our troops are "Nazis" http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/25/21313 4/43/102#102
  • Dems are starting their vicious attack on American identity, national religion, taxpayers etc, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/22/11525 /191/10#10
  • Voting for Democrats are at best like voting for street bums and at worst a lot like voting for terrorists.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 10/14/155517/23/33#33
  • Dems do want to take away our guns and they do want to limit our freedom of speech http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/20/13312/ 0705/3#3
  • La Raza is running and directing what the dems do http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/14/16394/ 1135/15#15
  • The dems desire to defeat the troops in Iraq and Afganistan. They want to impeach Bush because that is another way to victory in the war against the war (or another way to defeat the U.S., whichever way you look at it.) http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/9#9
  • Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/2#2
  • the Terrorists and the Democrats have had a lot of success in their attempts to break the will to fight of the American people. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • Many Americans have lsot the will to fight the terrorists after the non-stop rhetoric coming from the left and the L&S divisions of our campuses http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • The Dems mato is defeat. Common sense tells us they were going to surrender to the terrorists if they took power incongress.This defeatism means implementing dates for withdrawal and defunding the our troops. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/28/102731 /281/11#11
  • Nancy hangs the troops out to dry to let the Americans know who the dems really are and to lets the Islamos know that your party supports them http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/23/14658/ 5848/1#1
  • Go complain to Harry Reid who is heading up the defeat our troopsbillhttp://www.theyou ngturks.com/comments/2007/3 /2/941/60818/2#2
  • the Dems support the troops by supporting their defeat. The dems can't be trusted on any matters of national security.http://www.theyoun gturks.com/comments/2007/2/ 25/61739/1922/63#63
  • I posted his closing speech in the effort to stop the Dems pro-Al Qaeda resolution.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 2/25/61739/1922/54#54
  • Dems ARE unpatriotic bafoons, and the republicans aren't. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/16/13593/ 4879/2#2
  • Well if there is one thing the Dems don't do is " Caring about our country." They've been working on tearing apart the ideaof what it means to be American since way before the farewell speech of Reagan where he talked about the elimination of nationalpride and collective memory.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/17 /22318/8973/22#22
  • the Dem supported the troops by supporting their defeat in the 60s. Now they "support" the troops by supporting their defeatin the war on terror. It comes to reason that the Democrats DO NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/15 /175041/565/41#41
  • How did they manage to trick the voters into this new hope ( Obama ed.) filled bipartisan agenda when the cooks are running their party?http://www.theyoungtu rks.com/comments/2007/2/6/1 1367/49130/2#2
  • Like I said, if it wasn't for the Democrats hindering the war effort, funding, and the troops we'd have won these years ago. What we need is a much larger standing army, more media control, and fewer rules. Unfortunately Al Qaeda has learned to game our media in order to dispirit the American people and the dems just act an amplifier for their message. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/2/18320/2 3155/9#9
  • CNN can play the terrorists propaganda vids along side of the dem resolution supporting the terrorists.
  • Well I do know why the dems voted for General Patraeus and his plan for a surge along with giving funding to president Bush for the troops surge yet pass resolutions opposing what they just did\approved. It's all politics. Their rabid anti-American base demands that the dems politicize the war and pretend to not support the troop http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/5/3/12955/5 1892/8#8
  • the CNN sniper video of troops getting shot that was filmed by the terrorists in Iraq for propaganda. They want to break the American will so they give the tapes to the libs in our lib media who have like minded goals.  http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/1/5/19828/5 3784/2#2
  • The dems are invested in defeat, and cheer it on http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/12/3/151518 /361/4#4

by MRFred on 03/21/2008 09:41:40 AM EST

[ Parent ]
McCain's "spirit guide" John Hagee would likely resent it too...but it doesn't matter, because they're all the same.  They're all making money off religion, and they're all operating with loose screws.

by OneHitKill on 03/20/2008 10:08:35 PM EST

[ Parent ]

Everything Liarcoso posts is either a lie , prevarication or outright plagiarizing of "conservative" hate sites. You should know that He/she trolls other websites "rollplaying" in various personalities.

He/she loves to plagerize of post dead links from WingNutNet Daily where most of the conservative falsehoods and extremist hate speech can be found 

Hey, liar boy, explaine these  inflammatory comments your anti American flare. Maybe you could enlighten us as to where you came up with this information other than regurgitating Rush Limbaugh? Prove your lies.

  • Dems think our troops are "Nazis" http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/25/21313 4/43/102#102
  • Dems are starting their vicious attack on American identity, national religion, taxpayers etc, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/10/22/11525 /191/10#10
  • Voting for Democrats are at best like voting for street bums and at worst a lot like voting for terrorists.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 10/14/155517/23/33#33
  • Dems do want to take away our guns and they do want to limit our freedom of speech http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/20/13312/ 0705/3#3
  • La Raza is running and directing what the dems do http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/6/14/16394/ 1135/15#15
  • The dems desire to defeat the troops in Iraq and Afganistan. They want to impeach Bush because that is another way to victory in the war against the war (or another way to defeat the U.S., whichever way you look at it.) http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/9#9
  • Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, Pelosi has set a date for surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/11/112312 /588/2#2
  • the Terrorists and the Democrats have had a lot of success in their attempts to break the will to fight of the American people. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • Many Americans have lsot the will to fight the terrorists after the non-stop rhetoric coming from the left and the L&S divisions of our campuses http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/4/9/131553/ 4837/1#1
  • The Dems mato is defeat. Common sense tells us they were going to surrender to the terrorists if they took power incongress.This defeatism means implementing dates for withdrawal and defunding the our troops. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/28/102731 /281/11#11
  • Nancy hangs the troops out to dry to let the Americans know who the dems really are and to lets the Islamos know that your party supports them http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/3/23/14658/ 5848/1#1
  • Go complain to Harry Reid who is heading up the defeat our troopsbillhttp://www.theyou ngturks.com/comments/2007/3 /2/941/60818/2#2
  • the Dems support the troops by supporting their defeat. The dems can't be trusted on any matters of national security.http://www.theyoun gturks.com/comments/2007/2/ 25/61739/1922/63#63
  • I posted his closing speech in the effort to stop the Dems pro-Al Qaeda resolution.http://www.theyo ungturks.com/comments/2007/ 2/25/61739/1922/54#54
  • Dems ARE unpatriotic bafoons, and the republicans aren't. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/16/13593/ 4879/2#2
  • Well if there is one thing the Dems don't do is " Caring about our country." They've been working on tearing apart the ideaof what it means to be American since way before the farewell speech of Reagan where he talked about the elimination of nationalpride and collective memory.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/17 /22318/8973/22#22
  • the Dem supported the troops by supporting their defeat in the 60s. Now they "support" the troops by supporting their defeatin the war on terror. It comes to reason that the Democrats DO NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS.http://www.theyoungt urks.com/comments/2007/2/15 /175041/565/41#41
  • How did they manage to trick the voters into this new hope ( Obama ed.) filled bipartisan agenda when the cooks are running their party?http://www.theyoungtu rks.com/comments/2007/2/6/1 1367/49130/2#2
  • Like I said, if it wasn't for the Democrats hindering the war effort, funding, and the troops we'd have won these years ago. What we need is a much larger standing army, more media control, and fewer rules. Unfortunately Al Qaeda has learned to game our media in order to dispirit the American people and the dems just act an amplifier for their message. http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/2/2/18320/2 3155/9#9
  • CNN can play the terrorists propaganda vids along side of the dem resolution supporting the terrorists.
  • Well I do know why the dems voted for General Patraeus and his plan for a surge along with giving funding to president Bush for the troops surge yet pass resolutions opposing what they just did\approved. It's all politics. Their rabid anti-American base demands that the dems politicize the war and pretend to not support the troop http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/5/3/12955/5 1892/8#8
  • the CNN sniper video of troops getting shot that was filmed by the terrorists in Iraq for propaganda. They want to break the American will so they give the tapes to the libs in our lib media who have like minded goals.  http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2007/1/5/19828/5 3784/2#2
  • The dems are invested in defeat, and cheer it on http://www.theyoungturks.co m/comments/2006/12/3/151518 /361/4#4

by MRFred on 03/21/2008 09:44:33 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Do you condemn and repudiate the comments of your favorite politician Tom Tancredo and apologize your support of him? ( Dont forget his associations with known racist groups)

by MRFred on 03/21/2008 11:04:40 AM EST

[ Parent ]
and should have had Positive, Neutral, and Negative options. Oh well. :)

by Telrich on 03/20/2008 06:28:43 PM EST


I also worry about goofy conspiracy theories, but, much of this mindset explains some of Sen. Clinton's otherwise inexplicable votes over the past few years:
 
Here's a link to the Mother Jones article.
 
Here's a link to The Nation article .
 
Here's a link to Sharlet's 2003 Harper's article.
 
If any of this is legit, it's going to take a lot to convince me this group isn't blatant evidence of pathological conceit. Poor Jesus, what misery has been created in his name over the last 2000 years.
 
 

by Verified1 on 03/24/2008 01:43:35 AM EST


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