A voice from the past.

Email Print posted by juebawl 03/22/2008 01:08:20 PM EST

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Hello to all my old freinds.

While most of you will not know who I am since I have not joined into this forum much since the format changed, to those or you who do, you are often on my mind and I miss the spirited discusions we used to engage in the old forum. Denver Adam and Tim Medford were terrific mentors from whom I learned a lot, and as much as I disagreed with him, so was Kentx. So here we are closing in on another election and I am still up in the air on who I want to see as the nominee. So I figured where better to get the real scoop, the most intellectual advice on the net (schmooze, schmooze) than the TYT forum. Just to let you know, I am leaning quite heavily towards Barrack, but find I have some reservations. We couldn't possibly do worse than we have with Frank Burns the last 8 years!
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Two main things sway me. (none / 0)
Hi.  We've never met.

1. Public financing of campaigns.  That is where real change begins.

2. Who has provided the most support to Republicans (even though they have a very strange hatred of her)?

Both Obama an Clinton can be painted as conservative Democrats.  It's just that I don't believe that Obama actually belongs in that picture, while Clinton, a member of the DLC, obviously does.

And I am sick to death of the corporations running our government.  I want public financing of campaigns more than anything else.  As far as I'm concerned, if Obama turned out to be as incompetent a bureaucratic administrator as Bush but still gave us that, it would be worth it in the long run.  But I doubt that anyone could be as incompetent as Bush unless they were actually doing hallucinogens while in office.

Besides, Obama has gotten his act together, while Clinton is falling apart.  Sure, it's just the campaign and doesn't say much about administering the executive branch, but I think it is indicitive of what could follow.

Just my opinion.

by EveningStarNM on 03/22/2008 02:05:55 PM EST

Public financing (none / 0)
I agree that public financing would go a long way towards repairing our system, but doubt very much that either party will let it happen. Barracks campaign comes the closest to public financing with all the money it has raised on the internet from small donors. Personally I think that while fancy speaches cannot solve the problems our country faces, giving people hope and raising their moral is probably one of the most effective and important jobs a president has. If we the people don't feel good about the future, we will pull back and not join the process. And no one in this race embodies that quality to give us hope more than Obama.
    &nb sp;  And above all, we cannot afford McCain picking Supreme Court Judges, conservatives who will support big business only and will limit not only womens rights, but any freedom we have to control our own body's e.g. Terry Schiavo.

by juebawl on 03/22/2008 05:10:54 PM EST

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The Supreme Court (none / 0)

I also agree with your emphasis on the judges.  We haven't had a court that stood up for The People against oppression in a long time.  Unfortunately, the way the executive and legislative branches have been changing hands recently, all three got in tune long enough to do real damage to the country.

I've wondered if the next President should expand the court to 13 justices and appoint some really young total left-wing nuts to the court.  Hell, I'd even support Kucinich for that (I may be left-of-left in my politics, but I wouldn't want him for President -- the place for left-wing nutcases is on the Court or in Congress, not in the White House).  It would help relieve the work load the court has now, and might give us some time to repair the rest of the government.

by EveningStarNM on 03/22/2008 11:10:00 PM EST

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Out of the Black Hills of Dakota, (none / 0)
Juebawl Rides Again!!!

I'm just guessing here, but with oil trading at $120 per barrel, life must be pretty good in the juebawl household.

I hope you are working three pipeline jobs and saving $100,000 per year. The boom might last forever, or we might have another 1983.

Kindest Regards From The Oil Patch,
Ken

by KenTX on 03/22/2008 06:23:10 PM EST

Still drilling horizontals (none / 0)
I am maxing out my 401k and have 2 fully funded IRA's set up, I remember 83' well. And they say republican presidents are so good for the oilfield.

by juebawl on 03/22/2008 07:02:25 PM EST

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Juebawl is a Great American! (none / 0)
He is helping end America's dependence on foreign oil.

He is helping balance the trade deficit.

He is helping reduce our support of terrorist countries.

He is creating tax revenue for the government.

He is creating jobs and wealth for other Americans.

He is helping promote the strength of the American economy.

He would like to drill in ANWR and offshore, but you liberal weiners are fighting him at every turn.

When the Mexicans find a huge field, larger than all of Saudi Arabia, five miles beneath in the Gulf of Mexico, we're all going to be sorry. It will be $10 trillion pissed away because of environmentalists.

by KenTX on 03/22/2008 11:32:45 PM EST

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Juebawl, ya ol' coot! (none / 0)

You thought that was knowledge I was selling ya? Ehh...are you in the market for a bridge?

Obama was neither my first nor second choice - and he really ticked me off with that Reagan compliment, backhanded or not - but of the three who remain, I find him the most trustworthy and at least expresses that he cares about many of the social issues which concern me.

I was telling whoever would listen - and a few who weren't - just this morning that it will be the first time since Carter that I will be voting for somebody instead of against "the other guy". OTOH, I have absolutely no use or respect for either of the McCain or Clinton and would really, really hate to have to choose between them.

As always, I could easily be wrong.

Now, rub her feet................

by MedfordTim on 03/22/2008 06:26:26 PM EST

Not my first choice either. (none / 0)
We can only pick from what we have now, right   &nbs p;    & nbsp; (no left,left). I liked Edwards but I guess he picked the wrong year to be a white male. Anyway, good to know your still out there kicking up dust. As for being an "old coot" aren't you nearing 60?

by juebawl on 03/22/2008 07:08:42 PM EST

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HOLY CRAP. (none / 0)
JUEBAWL.

Dude, you were around when I first started posting on the original boards back in 03/04.  Welcome back.

I wonder where Adam is these days.

by jarett on 03/22/2008 08:14:58 PM EST

Jarett, is this true? (none / 0)
You were posting on TYT in March 2004? If so, you were here a few months before me. You might have even been here before Tim?

You sure you don't mean March 2005?

by KenTX on 03/23/2008 02:53:35 PM EST

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time (none / 0)
I know I was posting on the old boards before I came to ND, which started in '05.  I got Sirius at the end of '03, I think, and some time between then I started posting on the old boards.

I used to know how to get to them from here, but I can't remember anymore, or I'd do a search to find out.

Didn't it used to be www.theyoungturks.com/xoops or something like that?

by jarett on 03/23/2008 06:11:09 PM EST

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Ken might have been before me (none / 0)

I started posting my pearls of (fill in the blank) just after the last Pres election. There are quite a few folk around who have been Turk fans longer than I, they just seem to be wiser about shooting their mouth (fingers?) off than I am. My guess is: they have lives. Never been an issue with me. I haven't had one for years.

I am the embodiment of proof that neither length of time nor prolific output equal superior knowledge or wisdom...

by MedfordTim on 03/23/2008 06:48:48 PM EST

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Here's why you should support Obama (none / 0)

He's really genuinely interested in doing what's best for the country, and he's going to go to the effort of figuring out what that is.  He may not have all the answers going in, but he's at least willing to do the research and find out what we need. 

 Afterall we don't want another 4 years of people like this running the country:

geico cavemen 

by schmoab on 03/23/2008 02:05:00 AM EST

That's him! (none / 0)
Hey Jerret, you were wondering what happened to Denver Adam, that's him in the geico pic. He was the one who ordered roast duck, Tim had lost his appetite. At least that was the way I always pictured it.

by juebawl on 03/23/2008 09:18:13 PM EST

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