Olbermann Had A Devastating Segment On Hillary Last Night

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I don't always watch Countdown on MSNBC consistently, but I am so glad I caught the first segment of last night's show.

He (and his guests) expressed perfectly how I feel about Hillary Clinton and her campaign lately.

Watch this clip. (Especially Lord Foul and Bobo)

They nail it, pefectly. 100% dead-on. Unfortunately that clip left off the first half of the segment (with Richard Wolfe), but it gives you a good idea.

EDIT: I found a link to the brilliant first part of the first segment.

But wait, there's more.

The second segment was about how it was Hillary's campaign that told Canada that *Hillary's* anti-NAFTA rhetoric was BS. 
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Olbermann Had A Devastating Segment On Hillary Last Night | 46 comments (46 topical, 0 hidden)
Yes I saw it as well... (none / 1)
I must honestly say I am not surprised by all of this, and I certainly can see the reasons for your anger and disappointment bias...

I have never supported Clinton as a candidate, I detest the thought of her being in charge, but through all of this bullshit over the last week or so, the one shining thing that glares out to me anyway is the fact that Hillary Clinton will do what it takes to win, and not worry about "the high road" or the high minded ideals that the Obama people supposedly stand for...

Basically, even though she has one, she certainly aint no PUSSY. Obama and his supporters are slowly but surely being painted as pussies when it comes to winning this election...and Americans in the general election certainly do not want to elect someone who appears weak or soft...

I know that you Obama supporters wish to have your cake and eat it too, but in the real world (something Obama and his supporters must come to grips with) you cannot be "the better man" and expect to win. Politics is a dirty game, and only dirty little piggies will get what they want...

I know its not right, ihavenobias. I know it shouldn't be this way. I agree with you on this. But me and you agreeing does not change the fact that it is this way, and your man better learn how to play their game, or he and his supporters are gonna be left out of the mix.
 
Even if Obama beats Clinton in the Primary, he is already damaged and weak to the eyes of the general electorate, who are much more conservative than you and your fellow Obama supporters are willing to accept. McCain and the Rovians are going to skewer and eat him alive, and much of the public will follow because the republicans are better than Democrats at this game.

Have you listened to Maddow lately? I think she has a very good take on this, she sees what you and I see, and the bleeding needs to stop, now, or we are gonna be stuck with Grandpa Death, and nobody wants to see that, except for sickos and the rich. She is basically calling for a unity ticket, where they would go into the smoke filled room and come out smelling like roses...I think she is right...Obama supporters aren't gonna like it, but Im afraid thats what it will come to in the end, or it will destroy your party and your hopes for a better political scene...

Thanks for posting...

by bobo1 on 03/07/2008 11:07:58 AM EST

Are you sure we watched the same thing? (none / 0)
Because one strong point they made (the same one I've been making BTW) is that Hillary's McCain praising strategy will hurt HER in the long run.

It's a huge political liability!

So what you are arguing as a strength for her (she's a "fighter" who'll do anything it takes to win) is not really a strength.  Yes, she's a fighter who'll do everything it takes to win NOW even if it means she (and Obama and the party) lose in November.

That's not just unethical, it's completely idiotic.

PS---Everyone click this link and then scroll down and watch the second video clip (it's less than a minute long). Maddow nails it perfectly.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 11:16:16 AM EST

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Even better (none / 0)
Here's the direct link.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 11:23:00 AM EST

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Sorry, Im at work... (none / 0)
I couldnt get to your specific link here at work, but I did see Olbermann last night and I did listen to Maddow yesterday evening (since TYT thought it was a good time to take a vacation during an election cycle :()...

I know this is big in the eyes of the Obama supporters. I understand that she is a bitch and a liar...and I even agree that her supporting McCain on the surface is completely counterproductive and tacky...but what she is doing here is planting the seeds of doubt into the general population...If she can get the media even just to mention that Obama is unqualified and unprepared like her and McCain, she will have accomplished her ultimate goal of discrediting him as a candidate...this is something that both Clintons excel at...

Hillary is looking at big picture here, and shes playing a very tricky timing game with the general electorate...They will forget and forgive all of this unethical stuff by November and still vote for her to beat the Republicans (or so she hopes)

You Obama people who are still off debating the numbers and math game are wasting your time! The superdelegates are going to decide this, and thats who Hillary is after. Planting those insidious seeds of doubt will eventually make the superdelegates realize who is more adept to play McCains game.

I know Obama is the better man. I know he will do more good for your "progressive" causes than Hillary. Thats why hes gonna lose. The corporatists elites who really run this country do not want change, they want to continue the status quo, and Hillary is their girl for that...Im sorry you Obama supporters are caught in this particular situation, but really, thats what this all boils down to...The people dont have a say in this really, we are just "window dressing" for their cat and mouse game...

Hillary Clinton realizes that the people who are gonna vote Left will not support Grandpa Death. She knows that at least 85-90% of the Obama supporters will vote for the eventual nominee and she wont have to worry about impressing them...

As for being ethical, come on ihavenobias, we both live in the real world. This is where the Obama people get caught in their own trappings...Politics is unethical by its very nature...You are not gonna change that. DONT HATE THE PLAYA, HATE THE GAME... When has the game ever changed? Never, and it never will, and that is whats gonna take Obama down in the end...Hope will not triumph over Reality. EVER.

Thanks for your continued conversation. I hope you realize that Im agreeing with you about what a slime Hillary is, but I also hope you see why I believe in the end she will come out on top (even if she loses the primary, Obama will be a wounded animal ripe for the kill) and the corporatist mission will be accomplished...

I think the Denver Police better find some backup for the convention if this goes down the way I think it will.. Chicago 1968 gonna be Disneyland compared to this...I hope!

by bobo1 on 03/07/2008 11:49:11 AM EST

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No, you missed my point! (none / 0)
You wrote this: Hillary is looking at big picture here, and shes playing a very tricky timing game with the general electorate...They will forget and forgive all of this unethical stuff by November and still vote for her to beat the Republicans (or so she hopes)

Even if you're right about that (which is up for debate), the real Big Picture is that she's weakening herself in the general election by making an argument that not only praises McCain heavily (bad in and of itself), but also brings up issues that McCain will clobber her on (national security/experience). And again, if Obama wins, it hurts Obama's chances.

Again, notice I said it's not JUST unethical (if it was that I could live with it), it's also politically stupid.  It potentially (and in my opinion it's not potentially, but in fairness I'll say "potentially") hurts Obama, Hillary and the Dem party in general going forward.  Oh, and it helps McCain.

In other words, it's a lose-lose-lose-lose situation.  The only tiny little win is a short term one for Hillary that evaporates after the convention if she wins.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 11:58:10 AM EST

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Well... (none / 0)
First of all, I guess I just dont see where Clinton saying something nice or supportive of McCain is that big of deal, especially this early on...These guys always are cordial and proper in referring to the opponent, and Hillary is locking on to the opponent of the election McCain.

Was saying something nice about McCain and putting OBama down in bad taste - sure. Was it politically expected or expedient to Obama supporters - no not really. Are the general electorate other than Obama supporters (Im really tempted here to say Kool Aid Drinkers...oops I just did) gonna care or remember this in November? - Not a chance...this will all be taken as "politics as usual" and forgotten just the same...

Hillary doesnt care about what you Obama supporters think of her because she knows you will vote for her (especially with Obama potentially on the ticket) as opposed to voting for George Bush III (otherwise known as Grandpa Death John McCain).
 
Bias, I think you worry too much about whats right as opposed to what is. I dont think the Clinton team has many stupid political bones in their bodies...they know exactly what they are doing, and they will stop at no cost in order to attempt to get what they want...How the Hell you think they elected her Womanizing Bubba Husband twice? They turned him into a Republican, and it worked brilliantly...

This comes back to my point that the general electorate is more conservative than progressive...it is and theres no way around that...Polls dont mean nothing when the proverbial shit hits the fan on this...

I still think your best shot at getting Obama into the White House is by making him VP. Then you can have your Obama cake and eat it too...

Honestly, bias, I hope Im worng...Remember, im not blogging here to change hearts and minds. I am here to express opinions about what I think...but the more and more the situation unfolds, the more and more I am right, and its not a pretty thought...

by bobo1 on 03/07/2008 12:12:43 PM EST

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No, I'm looking at what works and what doesn't (none / 0)
If, as Maddow beautifully put it, Hillary wants to run as McCain's VP, she's doing a great job.

I'll defer to the political experts on the issue of if she's ultimately helping McCain and hurting herself, and what they say on the issue is pretty clear (at least those who have been pretty fair to both candidates, especially Maddow).

You keep bringing this issue back to Obama supporters (as usual, like with every other topic, related or not) but it goes way beyond that.  This hurts HILLARY too.

Hillary's not just saying "nice things" about McCain, if that were the case there wouldn't be an issue here and no one would care.  You have to look at exactly what she's saying to see why it's so potentially damaging.  I've said all I've had to say on this.

Everyone, watch the video clips and explain why you agree or disagree.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 12:18:02 PM EST

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Ok, Ill leave the Kool Aid out the mix...for now.. (none / 0)
Hillary wants McCains middle moderate voters. Saying she wants to be his VP is silly politcal radio rhetoric. She obviously doesnt want on a Republican ticket, but she will run like a republican in order to sway the voters in the general...

Hillary is already looking ahead to the general because thats her only shot of winning ...shes not gonna sway the Obama supporters...so she'll just bypass you by any means necessary... even if it means cheating, scratching, biting and siding with the enemy to oppose Obama...Clinton is vindictive, ruthless and very determined - thats why she and her husband are excellent politicians (certainly not excellent people)

I dont think we are in disagreement here about her repugnant tactics and slimy persona, bias, I think our perspectives on the outcome are different...thats all!

Thanks for you thoughts...

by bobo1 on 03/07/2008 12:52:32 PM EST

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Come on Bobo (none / 0)
You KNOW they/I don't mean it literally when we say she wants to be McCain's VP.

It's not silly political radio rhetoric, it's simply good hyperbole (Cenk is a fan as am I) that concisely expresses the sentiment of many of us.

And again, you're argument about what she's *trying* to do is irrelevant, it's about what she is *actually* doing.  Her tactics will backfire (on her in the long run and on Obama and the party in the short/long run).  It's that simple.  She's given McCain an even bigger hand to play on experience and national security, and that is a negative, no matter how you try to spin or deny it.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 12:57:43 PM EST

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Whoa Nellie!!! (none / 0)
Who said I was denying what she is actually doing? I know as well as you exactly what she is doing.

What I am suggesting to you is that she is gonna get away with it, because the lamestreamers and the general electorate are gonna let her slide on it!!!

If I were a Democrat or an Obama supporter, I would be pissed as Hell about the whole deal, because she is feeding McCain and his campaign...

But when it comes right down to it, I dont think the electorate is gonna go running to embrace Grandpa Death because of this... Theres still a lot working against him, and whoever the Democrat is will receive those Middle Votes.

What Im saying is that in the end, Its gonna be Clinton standing there, not Obama (unless he is the VP on the ticket)

Thats what I am saying...Thanks...

by bobo1 on 03/07/2008 01:06:21 PM EST

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bobo (none / 0)
Did you know bobo means the village idiot in Spanish?

by acroso on 03/07/2008 02:42:21 PM EST

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I did not know that... (none / 0)
If bobo means that in Spanish, then I wonder what acroso mean in any language - a few possibilities-
 
In Swahili - He who has difficulties with keeping his mouth shut when bugs are approaching...

In Dutch - He who secretly has a John McCain blow-up doll in his room at the red light district...so sticky!!! 

In Spanish - One who actually thinks Ron Paul is different than General Franco...

In Greek - Baa...Baa... Baa... (Do I need to explain that one, too?)

I'll have a few more later...Thanks for helping!

The Idiot...bobo1 :)

by bobo1 on 03/07/2008 03:04:53 PM EST

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acroso (none / 0)
hehe everytime I've seen yr name I always think of that.

by acroso on 03/07/2008 03:18:22 PM EST

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acroso... (none / 1)

is basically a sperm "hat". Or if you really think about it...a little dick head...

 

by MRFred on 03/07/2008 04:10:52 PM EST

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Perfectomundo!!!!!!! (none / 0)
There it is, man, there it is!!!!

Thanks for the info - Im glad someone is smart around here!!!

bobo1

by bobo1 on 03/07/2008 09:41:13 PM EST

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Is that a fact........... (none / 0)

.......you're stating: 

 .Hope will not triumph over Reality. EVER

what about Ghandi or MLK? 

In the broader scope though, what are the "corparatist interests" that  Clinton represents so much better than Obama which you  implied with this:

"......... I believe in the end she will come out on top (even if she loses the primary, Obama will be a wounded animal ripe for the kill) and the corporatist mission will be accomplished..."

 And by the way for the sake of clarity could you please state what the "Corporatist mission" is.

Finallly why do you think Obama's message is necessarily  inconsistent with those corporatist interests. 

 

 

 

 

by Tom Paine Jr on 03/08/2008 07:11:45 AM EST

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thank you!!! A real discussion!!! (none / 0)
Thanks for your reply. I am glad to see that somebody here is thinking below the surface!

In the specific case of Gandhi in India, the seperation from England and the later Partition have several roots in economic need. India for hundreds of years was boiling over due to the unfair caste structure and its terrible results on the people... Gandhi acted as the symbol of freedom for the people, but what he actually accomplished through his actions and the actions of his counterpart politically Nehru was the Economic separation from England...

The Indian corporate structure was established, and for many years the people suffered due to the lack of economic stability. Things have improved over the last 60 years or so, but the caste system still very much exists, upward mobility is still difficult between Castes, and throw in the whole Muslim/Hindu conflict wih Pakistan and what do you have = "meet the new boss same as the old boss.." So much for your hope there...

MLK? Again, things have improved relations wise since the Civil Rights era, but is equity a realistic concept in our economy and soceity?

Who still lives in poverty - minorities
Who lives in the Ghettos and Barrios - Minorities
Who has the highest prison populations - minorities
Who has the lowest High School graduation rates - minorities

Shall I continue? MLK had a dream, his dream is alive, but the hope of its full promise is just that - hope - until things are structurally changed, all they will have to cling to is hope - and that certainly doesnt pay the bills...

When I refer to corporatist interest, I am talking about the economic structures of our world that seek to obtain as much power and influence as possible while keeping the masses of people down or at least distracted from the happenings of our world.

The Corporatist interests began in the United States from the arrival of the Jamestown and Roanoke colonies in the 1600s...they were here to exploit the land, people and resources for their financial gain ... to Hell with the natural order and what was right...

This all gets a bit brainy and theoretical past any normal discussion, but I will close by saying that all 3 candidates this time (as with most all other candidates ever) work within the system that has corporate money feeding the politicians and having them pass legislation and rules under the guise of "we the people" in order for them to acquire more wealth and power...Other countries are following the American Dream of domination, and this is where conflict arises...

Each of these candidates talk a big game, but to a certain degree they are all the same...they'll do what the money tells em to do, therefore remaining locked into this form of slavery we call corporatism...


And where does that leave "We the People"?

Yeah, thats what I thought...


Thanks...

by bobo1 on 03/08/2008 12:20:32 PM EST

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Knowledge/Wisdom (none / 0)
Nice post unfortunately you are wasting your time.

Rachel Maddow all but cried on Dam Abrams show the other night. How unfair the "3 am" ad was, How running on fear is wrong.

How many elections do we have to lose before we realize that fear works. In fact it just worked in a DEM primary!

You don't bring a knife to a gun fight

by LORD FOUL on 03/07/2008 03:52:00 PM EST

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This guy said it well (none / 1)



by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 03:55:36 PM EST

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Bingo. (none / 0)
That's an awesome description.

SAM: What's new, Normie?
NORM: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach and they're demanding beer.

by Spinny on 03/07/2008 03:59:06 PM EST

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It sure is (none / 0)
And I highlighted that last part because it directly addresses the argument that Bobo and Lord Foul keep making, i.e. "oh come on, this is politics, you gotta play dirty to win" and so on.

To an extent that's true, but as Cenk would say, bounds of reason before that backfires personally and politically.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 04:03:08 PM EST

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Bounds of reason? (none / 0)
Cenk hasn't won any election, and his Obama bias has become obvious. TYT coverage of texas/ohio looked and sounded pretty much like a funeral.

I want the Dems to win period and so should you. Your positions do not fit with what has happened in the last 2 general elections (Idaho for example is not going to give its electoral votes to any DEM.)

What happens in a dem primary does not translate to the general election well./

Obama has run 1 campaign of any consequence and that was virtually unopposed

The majority of voters in this country are moderate not liberal

It has been 4 days since Tuesday and his best response is asking for "her tax returns".

Here is a suggestion, attack both her and McCain on their experience. there is a lot to attack. Nobody has experience like McCain on torture, why is he for it? or better yet why did he flip flop on it, or why did he cave to Bush?

Obama like Keryy and Gore before him are trying to be "above" that sort of thing. HISTORY TEACHES THAT "IT'S A LOSING PROPOSITION.

by LORD FOUL on 03/07/2008 04:42:34 PM EST

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What you think they are stupid? (1.00 / 2)
Hes not trying he is.

He also has a whole team of people that used to work for Clinton . He was elected twice.

by Chinese Democracy on 03/08/2008 12:22:08 PM EST

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It's ironic that you would mention (none / 1)
how what happens in a dem primary does not translate to the general. That's the exact argument I would use against Hillary saying she's better because she's "won the big states".

It's even MORE funny that you wrote this as part of your argument: The majority of voters in this country are moderate not liberal

Great, thank you for making the point that Obama is more electable as he *clearly* appeals to to republicans and independents, unlike Hillary who tends to turn those groups off in a big way. This is a critical point considering that McCain also appeals to many independents and some democrats.


You also also said this: "I want the Dems to win period and so should you."

Uh yeah, as much as I'm coming to loathe Hillary, I won't pretend that I'll vote for McCain in the general. But the point you (and Bobo) keep missing (is it intentional?) is that Clinton's latest attacks on Obama actually HURT HER in the long run and HELP McCain.

This is not just *my* opinion, it's also the opinion of people who live and breathe this stuff (some of which I've shared...if you bothered to watch and read them is another matter), people who may not be as biased as you think Cenk to be.  I've seen Maddow (for example) to be pretty damn fair during this campaign.

Just because Obama supporters annoy you is no reason to dismiss good arguments on why Hillary's tactics may well come back to bite her and her party in the ass.  You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater by dismissing the whole argument because you don't like the messenger and can't separate Obama support from a legit argument.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 06:41:20 PM EST

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Gavel imminent. (none / 0)

This combined with the Gary Hart link from before.  I'm calling it...

It's over. 

by Spencer on 03/08/2008 01:38:43 AM EST

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Living and dying (none / 0)
I see opinion, not an argument.

I think we can both agree that Hillary isn't getting her support from the far left.

If moderates are turned off by Clinton how is she even in the race?

As to your claim that Obama *clearly* appeals to Pubs and Inds. I say this, 1)what people say now and what they'll do in November is 2 different things. Especially after the most negative campaign in election history

Clinton's latest attacks on Obama actually HURT HER in the long run and HELP McCain.

possibly but do you think she would have won Ohio and Texas without attacking?

As to people who live and breathe this "stuff" are you referring to activists or bloggers?

The only establishment Dems that have had any legitimate long term success against the Pubs have been the Clintons.

The complaint about Maddow is quite specific, crying about a fear ad. Nothing more. She is right on principle but wrong in election strategy. Which was just proven once again last week.

What I want out of Obama is simply this, "show some balls", fight back, counter punch, attack.

Nice guys finish last.


P.S. glad I could make you laugh.

I

by LORD FOUL on 03/08/2008 08:16:50 AM EST

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He's showing some good "fight" today (none / 0)
By the way, I happen to *personally* know people who have NEVER voted republican who are excited and voted for Obama in the primaries.

This sentiment is echoed across the nation, so you can't just dismiss it as a temporary thing.  These same people also could've voted for McCain (or whoever) but they didn't.

The fact is, he's reached out to moderates, indes and republicans, and it's worked, plain and simple.  In the general election, odds are he'll move a little further right, which should FURTHER increase his appeal with moderates, indes and republicans.

And while the fear card works in the short run, it's also true that people have hard-core Iraq fatigue.  They're tired of being scared.  No, actually, I take it back, they want to be scared about something else.

Rather than worrying about a bomb, they want to worry about gas prices, wages, the housing bust and healthcare.  And on those fronts, Obama's message destroys John "I don't know much about the economy" McCain who doesn't really have a healthcare plan.

PS---Some people say Obama will end up like JFK (in the negative sense), and they worry about it.  But I'd say as many or more people worry that McCain will die in office due to old age. 

At any rate, who they choose for VP is critical.  Obama is in a better position IMO to pick someone who shores up experience/national security cred on the ticket compared to McCain who wants to shore up youth, economic experience, change AND the conservative base.

by ihavenobias on 03/08/2008 11:32:58 AM EST

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ah yes, gary hart (none / 0)

gary hart, the philanderer who was shamed out of his presidential bid, speaks about providing ammunition to the opposition.

who said irony was dead. 

by neo on 03/07/2008 05:52:04 PM EST

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That sounds like "experience" to me. (none / 0)
Maybe he knows what giving the opposition ammo can do.

by Spencer on 03/08/2008 01:41:41 AM EST

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CTV (none / 0)
The second segment was about how it was Hillary's campaign that told Canada that Hillary's anti-NAFTA rhetoric was BS.

Both campaigns told Canada through back channels that they were just blowing smoke in Ohio regarding NAFTA.

by Twba on 03/07/2008 12:04:37 PM EST

Posting links from February? (none / 0)
I prefer stuff that's more recent.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 12:10:37 PM EST

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March (none / 0)
Is this link fresh enough for you?

by Twba on 03/07/2008 12:25:50 PM EST

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It's 2 days older (none / 0)
than the one I posted, so no.  Context matters, and in this case, many new facts have come to light in a short period of time.

The bottom line is that it's complete bullshit that Hillary likely won Ohio on a larger margin because of a NAFTA issue that HER campaign was involved in, yet somehow an Obama story on NAFTA caught the headlines.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 12:48:52 PM EST

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Possible explanation (none / 0)
Perhaps everyone expects Hillary to lie about NAFTA. Obama is the one running on change and a new type of politics. He is holding himself up to a higher standard and that makes his lying about NAFTA more significant to journalists?

by Twba on 03/07/2008 01:08:16 PM EST

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Nights like Last Night (none / 0)
Make me ask myself, why don't I watch the OLB every night....  When's the last time you've given a DLC, Lieberman-like victim a hug?

by rev24 on 03/07/2008 12:49:42 PM EST

I used to DVR him (none / 0)
but I ended up getting behind and having to delete some episodes so I gave up.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 12:53:10 PM EST

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Podcast him (none / 0)
There's a 10-12 minute excerpt released free every day via iTunes.  You don't get his whole show, but the segment his handlers think is the best one.  I loves me my daily dose.

SAM: What's new, Normie?
NORM: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach and they're demanding beer.

by Spinny on 03/07/2008 01:23:28 PM EST

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there is a way to catch him any time (none / 1)
its called TiVo

by Chinese Democracy on 03/07/2008 01:33:49 PM EST

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Yeah, I have a cheap version of TIVO (none / 0)
I said I DVR him!  That just means I have a generic, local version of TIVO.  I actually don't like TIVO, I prefer the generic version I have now and I've used both.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 03:00:19 PM EST

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just watch! (none / 1)
who cares just watch him lol

by Chinese Democracy on 03/07/2008 07:56:09 PM EST

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Podcast (none / 0)

I missed that! For the first time Olbermann's podcast had this message:

There was a problem downloading "MSNBC Countdown with Keith Olbermann".

The network connection was refused.

Anyone else subscribe to his podcast and have a problem with it? (podcast link)

by zenie on 03/07/2008 02:36:41 PM EST

Had some problems earlier (none / 0)
I was getting the "problem" icon, and now I'm getting it again, but somewhere in between I managed to download last night's episode.

SAM: What's new, Normie?
NORM: Terrorists, Sam. They've taken over my stomach and they're demanding beer.

by Spinny on 03/07/2008 03:25:36 PM EST

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I like what Larry David (none / 0)
had to say about Hillary.  Yes, the co-creator of Seinfield and Curb Your Enthusiasm.

You can either read or click the audio on and hear him read his own post.

by ihavenobias on 03/07/2008 07:04:21 PM EST

I already posted this a while ago (none / 1)
The response was  David is a HILLARY HATER!  

by Chinese Democracy on 03/07/2008 10:36:41 PM EST

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Larry David Still Makes Me Laugh Out Loud (none / 0)
"I don't want her talking to my nephew!" Another great clip here, ihavenobias. Keep up the good work.

by Verified1 on 03/08/2008 03:07:32 PM EST

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Short Term vs. Long Term (none / 0)
Thanks, Ihavenobias, for posting the link to that great Olbermann clip. Sen. Obama has really been unfairly blasted in the natl TV media lately, especially by ABC, and it's heartening to see someone of Olbermann's stature saying....uh, wait a minute.
 
This whole episode says two things to me. One - the Obama campaign has long been doing a great job of staying positive, but needs to hone its rapid response skills. Two - it is even more evident after analyzing the delegate gains from OH/RI/VT/TX that Obama's overall campaign strategy shows terrific foresight and the capacity to see the long range goal - something not usually recognized by lazy TV reporters anxious for sound bites to fill the the time between their news shows' commercials.
 
My concern is that the majority of Americans may now be so unfamiliar wth substantive discussion and debate, that they are too prone to knee-jerking to the type of smear and innuendo emanating from Howard Wolfson and his ilk. Obama has a very, very difficult road ahead - playing whack-a-mole with the Clinton attack machine while keeping a Democratic candidacy viable in the (easily clouded) eyes of a large portion of American voters.

by Verified1 on 03/08/2008 02:56:00 PM EST

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