Would Hillary try to DESTROY Obama at any costs? OF COURRRRSE!

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Hillary appeals to Archie Bunker once again, with her Remington and Bible in hand!

Well, this marks a second very depressing moment in Obama's CAMPAIGN FOR HOPE for our future. "Oppurtunity knocks" for those who would destroy and crush this deeper hope for our future.

 
Some might member my "Archie Bunker" comments of last month, lamenting that many blue collar voters in rural Pennsylvania (and West Virginia and Kentucky and Southern Indiana) would now tip the scales in favor of Hillary, because they would turn their anger about the economic INJUSTICE - and make no mistake, our system is doing them a GRAVE ECONOMIC INJUSTICE - against Barack Obama over the comments of Reverend Wright.

 Angry and "BITTER" about this injustice, many blue collar voters would look for a scape-goat; Reverend Wright the "America hater", illegal immigrants, Liberals who "want to destory Jesus"! I say this and I STRONGLY believe in the teachings of Jesus. The man was a social revolutionary for his time.

 It was quite apt and telling that the "Gollum" look-a-like James Carville - boy, he really does look like Gollum doesn't he? - immediately referred to Governor Richardson as "Judas". What better image to portray to blue collar workers angered at "the system"? Yes, use a religious reference to fire up your supporters against Obama! Does the Clinton camp have a CLEAR STRATEGY or what?

Ok, so what happened was this Mayhill Fowler - who spews anti-Obama rhetoric, who gave money to Fred Thompson's campaign, whose Husband supports Hillary, and who claims on CNN that she is "an Obama supporter" (YEAH, RIGHT. Gave money to Fred Thompson, an Obama supporter - sure, whatever you say!!!), snuck a recording device into a private meeting and caught Obama making a professorial sociological statement about American society. Yes, Obama was a teacher, a part-time law professor, and he speaks like a professor (I always think of him as "the teacher" of the American people).

Well, for months now, since Obama TROUNCED Hillary in Virginia, Maryland, and Wisconsin, when he started making strong inroads into the blue collar vote - which, ofcourse, HE CERTAINLY SHOULD, since Hillary Clinton is a CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRAT WHO IS A LEADER OF THE DLC (a group of pro-corporate, conservative Dems), I figured that the "win at any costs" Hillary campaign probably had several SPIES in the Obama Campagin. Just looking and recording any possible professorial phrase Obama might turn to use against him.

An aside: SORRY HILLARY SUPPORTERS, but the REALITY, and not Hillary's BS, strongly shows her support of CORPORATE AMERICA (witness Obama's attack on Hillary's voting FOR the new Bankruptcy Act - a HUGE GIFT to the credit card companies. Hillary supports blue collar workers? Are you kidding? While she votes for the new Bankruptcy Act? Hillary's CHIEF CAMPAIGN STRATEGIST Mark Penn was a CORPORATE LOBBYIST who worked for the Columbia Free Trade deal while Hillary CLAIMED she was against it??

HILLARY SUPPORTERS, GET A FU@KING CLUE!!!! WAKE UP!!! Hillary will do anything to WIN!!!

 We Obama supporters are NOT ANTI-WOMEN! I am a HUGE supporter of BEV PERDUE for Governor of North Carolina!!! I would LOVE to have a woman president - but a PROGRESSIVE WOMAN DEMOCRAT! NOT a pro-corporate Dem like Hillary. HILLARY IS NOT A LIBERAL! GET A CLUE!

 Ok, more than enough of an aside. As I said, I feared, and as events have shown in no way was this some paranoia, that Hillary had spies in the campaign. It is not uncommon for sleazy politicians to do this, or for some oppurtunistic individual like Mayhill Fowler to see their chance. Fowler, just like the rest of us, KNEW what Obama was saying. Its the "Whats the Matter with Kansas?" argument that Professor Frank so eloquently made in his now-famous book after the 2004 election - that many blue collar Americans, working class (isn't it weird how Lou Dobbs always refers to working class Americans as "middle class"? As if "working class" is some kind of dirty word), that hard working Americans, in their anger, and yes, BITTERNESS, over the American system, would turn their bitterness toward reactionary politics - the gun lobby, fundamentalist reaction against civil liberties; and would actually vote against their OWN INTERESTS in a STRONGER LABOR MOVEMENT and a politics that would support their rights.

 Hillary is AWARE of this, she's seen it. She knows that Obama said is basically true - though in a BROADER, SOCIOLOGICAL sense -which is ofcourse, the way Obama often speaks. Hillary knows Obama is a professor. Hell, even she has probably read "Whats the Matter With Kansas?". But, she knew this was her BIG CHANCE, bigger than the Reverend Wright controversy. She also knew this was something she could easilly MANIPULATE to those who, for no fault of their own, might not have a background in sociology or a broader understanding of society.

Its oftentimes not a person's fault they don't have a better education - but simply an enviromental difference that they weren't exposed to. They simply were not so fortunate. HILLARY KNOWS THAT.

But what does she do? SHE EXPLOITS IT TO THE HILT ANYWAY!!!

What does that make Hillary? It makes her MORALLY CULPABLE thats what! And by that I mean someone who KNOWS something is morally wrong, but does it anyway simply for personal gain.

Hillary spouts off about how Obama is condescending and "out of touch" and how morally wrong Obama's comments were. Well, Hillary, when you know that isn't the case, and you deliberately LIE about it just so you can win at any costs, with your corporate LOBBYIST PALS backing you up -

 WHO IS THE PHONY, LYING, CONDESCENDING ONE?

 

Unfortunately for all of us, Archie Bunker is listening to her, buying into the bullshit, just like he did with the Willie Horton ad in 1988, the "affirmative action white hands" ad of Jesse Helms here in North Carolina Senate race against black Democrat Harvey Gantt in 1990, and against John Kerry for going wind surfing. Really, who the hell cares if somebody goes wind surfing?

And Hillary uses THESE SAME TACTICS!!! HELLO Clinton supporters! WAKE UP!!!

As Cenk would say, would Hillary destroy Obama personally just to WIN AT ANY COST? Just to win for herself?

 "OF COURRRRRRRRRSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!"

 Her Bible and Remington in hand, reminiscing about her fantasy hunting trips of her childhood, Hillary readies herself for the Pennsylvania Primary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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with all the answers being OF COURRRRRRRRRSE!!!!!!!!

by richardshort2001 on 04/14/2008 11:22:45 PM EST


Should HAVE.

WTF?  I think I had a stroke focused in the part of my brain that used to know grammar.

by richardshort2001 on 04/15/2008 01:36:06 AM EST

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It's not your fault that the forum does not allow editing of existing posts.

Hillary Clinton is running a poison pill campaign to destroy Obama's chances of winning the general election. If he wins in 2008, he will run for reelection in 2012.

She can't win the nomination, so her only objective at this point is to defeat Obama in November.

by KenTX on 04/15/2008 01:42:15 AM EST

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for a while, though it pains me to say it.

by richardshort2001 on 04/15/2008 01:45:45 AM EST

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Please note that I just invented the term relative to the Clinton Campaign. I will be interested to see if anyone else starts using it.

The only way that Clinton Inc gets behind the Obama ticket, is if Hillary is the VP, and Obama agrees to step down and let her run in 2012.

Ain't.
Gonna.
Happen.

by KenTX on 04/15/2008 01:51:38 AM EST

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I have predicted that as soon as Hillary drops out (sometime between now and the day after NC) she will be hugging Obama all over the campaign trail and calling for McCain to get his richly deserved ass-kicking.
We've both made our predictions, lets see who is right.

by ProfRich on 04/15/2008 02:31:05 AM EST

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But the payoff the Clintons demand will be enormous.

And even then, I anticipate that Bill will be working behind the scenes to derail Obama's campaign.

If Obama wins, Bill Clinton will be a loser in history.

by KenTX on 04/15/2008 02:40:54 AM EST

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Maybe you didn't get the memo...if Hillary wins Pennsylvania by 15-20 points (I have my doubts), she wins the nomination.

This race isn't over.

by acroso on 04/14/2008 11:33:13 PM EST


she is still losing her lead in the polls.  Her peak was about when she made that speech in Memphis, I believe.

by richardshort2001 on 04/14/2008 11:52:50 PM EST

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She has larger leads in Kentucky and West Virginia than in Pennsylvania, and she has a pretty good lead in Indiana also.

 

If she really ends up winning by 15-20 points that will be a death blow to the Obama campaign...brought to you by Ariana Huff. 

by acroso on 04/15/2008 12:06:41 AM EST

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uhh they banned me from their forums for just talking...

I wasn't even their pimping for ron Paul. They banned me just because I didn't "seem" like a true and blue Huckabee supporters and they suspected I was some sort of troll.

Acroso 

 Duh.....

by MRFred on 04/15/2008 10:03:33 AM EST

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She would need to narrow Obama's lead in NC considerably to have any hope.  Not gonna happen.

by jarett on 04/15/2008 04:37:31 AM EST

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Win PA by 20???

If she wins EVERY REMAINING STATE BY 20 she would still be 50 delegates behind.  29 behind after superdelegates.  She has lost.  

Like it or not everybody needs to just come to grips with a simple reality.

The new sherrifs a n... 

by ProfRich on 04/15/2008 09:32:16 AM EST

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No way.

Hey, it worked in Blazing Saddles.

by jarett on 04/15/2008 03:22:25 PM EST

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I believe the people of Pennsyvania will see through the clutter.  It appears that some of the small town people of Pennsylvania are bitter.  They are intelligent enough to understand what Obama is talking about.  The only ones who are worked up are the MSM, The Clinton Campaign, McBush, and the Republicans because it is one of their petty attacks. 
It plays to the Republicans inability to understand sentence structures longer than a 3 word slogan.

by jdenham on 04/15/2008 11:12:43 AM EST


TANK MOMENT! TANK MOMENT! TANK MOMENT!

SNOBAMA!

Now bobo and acroso can take a few more minutes for lunch. 

by ProfRich on 04/15/2008 11:51:42 AM EST

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You left out "Kool-Aid", "Empty Suit" and "Empty Rhetoric".

Come to think of it, we should make an Obama Basher Mad Libs!

by ihavenobias on 04/15/2008 11:58:43 AM EST

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"elitist" and "socialist" to that Mad Lib as well.

by Spencer on 04/15/2008 03:09:24 PM EST

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LIBS LOSE ELECTIONS!!! - LIBS LOSE ELECTIONS!!! LIBS LOSE ELECTIONS!!!

Because they cannot resist calling middle americans stupid gun clinging Bible reading doorknobs....

Please tell me the last Liberal to win a Presidential Election?

Most of you weren't even alive to remember old peanut Jimmy - And he only won because people were still pissed about Nixon and Watergate...

Keep looking down at us guys - keep looking down - thats what Liberals and academics are best at!!! (its certainly not winning general elections)

:)

by bobo1 on 04/15/2008 01:25:03 PM EST

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Thank God Obama's a progressive.

by ProfRich on 04/15/2008 01:32:19 PM EST

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Dont kid yourself over semantics...

Progressive - Liberal

Tomato - Tomato

Thanks

:)

by bobo1 on 04/15/2008 01:42:58 PM EST

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To a conservative Republican everyone who disagrees with you looks the same.

by ProfRich on 04/15/2008 01:46:10 PM EST

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I wouldnt know...

But to a more moderate observer like myself, yeah, the kool aid drinking minions do tend to start looking and whining the same after a while...

Remember Professor, the Joe Sixpacks cant tell the difference between Liberal and Progressive either... and they are going to decide this election, as they always do...

Tomato = Tomato

:)

by bobo1 on 04/15/2008 01:53:19 PM EST

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explain that bobotx

by Chinese Democracy on 04/15/2008 01:42:22 PM EST

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"LIBS LOSE ELECTIONS!!! - LIBS LOSE ELECTIONS!!! LIBS LOSE ELECTIONS!!!"

Noooooooo!

Mr Bobo 

by bfaul on 04/15/2008 01:47:52 PM EST

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Well all three of the candidates seem the same to me.

by acroso on 04/15/2008 09:03:41 PM EST

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