Voter ID is now the law of the land. START LIKIN' IT!!!

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This just in from AP.

I’ve been telling you guys that the Indiana law would be upheld. The only thing that surprised me was that the decision was 6-3 and not 9-0.

The logic was obvious to all except for:

Zippy said that Voter ID was unconstitutional. (Zippy was almost as wrong on this as he was on the "failure of the surge" and the impending "division in the ranks" of the GOP.)

Mr. Fred said that Voter ID was unconstitutional.
 
ProfRich said that Voter ID was unconstitutional. (He's such a predictable hack. "He broke the plane of the goal line! He broke the plane of the goal line!")

Hubble said that Voter ID was unconstitutional. (Hubble is very worried about citizens presenting drivers licenses to vote, but he doesn’t care about presenting social security cards so the government can steal your money.)

Twba said that Voter ID was  perfectly constitutional. (What do you expect? He is the world’s smartest human.)
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Voter ID is now the law of the land. START LIKIN' IT!!! | 27 comments (27 topical, 0 hidden)
How was this even a question? (none / 0)
Of course voters should need ID!!!! How the Hell else are we gonna know who has the rights of citizenship if they cannot be identified!!!!

Now we need to bust the states that issue DL to anyone who can pay - We start with Maine, then Arizona!!! Its time for the citizenry to take back this nation from those who don't belong here!!!!

I cant believe this wasn't a 9-0 slam dunk decision!!!

:)

by bobo1 on 04/28/2008 08:08:52 PM EST

Oklahoma showed us the way. (none / 0)
Oklahoma already solved the illegal alien problem.

AZ and RI are following suit.

by KenTX on 04/28/2008 08:16:33 PM EST

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It's the COST FACTOR. Liebowski (none / 0)
When I lived in California, I had a voter's ID card. When I moved to Oregon, I got their voter ID card. In both cases, they came from the Secretary of State. In neither case did it have a photo.

State ID cards in Oregon? $29.

If you require a state ID with photo to vote, then state ID's with photos should be handed out free of charge.

Otherwise, it's just a backdoor "poll tax."

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations..."

Okay, Democrats - get to it! Let the Republicans vote this down. Time to rein in these activist justices.

by MedfordTim on 04/28/2008 08:35:36 PM EST

Not only is Voter ID free, (none / 0)
but Georgia will deliver the card to your house for free.

It's easy when there are only 15 people in the entire state who lack a drivers license or other form of government issued ID.

Allow me to remind you:

It takes ID to buy beer.

It takes ID to buy cigarettes.

It takes ID to get on a plane.

It takes ID to rent a movie.

It takes ID to drive a car.

It takes ID to buy a gun.

It takes ID to check into a hotel.

It takes ID to get a job.

It takes ID to draw unemployment.

It takes ID to obtain welfare.

by KenTX on 04/28/2008 08:45:54 PM EST

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What a liar! (none / 0)
Ken's trying to get us to believe they still card his old ass when he buys beer and smokes? I doubt it!

Ken, you DO realize this is another step toward the national ID card, right? Where are your conservative values? Small, non-intrusive government and all that.

When did you make the switch from "free state" to "police state" advocate?

by MedfordTim on 04/28/2008 09:26:35 PM EST

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Allow me to elaborate. (none / 0)
When you go to the polls in these states, presenting your drivers license will allow you to vote. After today's Supreme Court decision, the number of blue shaded states will soon grow to 50.
polls
Since 99.999999% of voters already have drivers licenses, or some other form of government-issued photo ID, the law is hardly exclusionary. We can afford to give the other 0.00000001% a free, gold plated ID card.

The ID card that frightens me the most is the Social Security card. That card was initially designed and issued by SS Police Forces from FDR's New Deal. The idea was to keep track of everyone's income, so they could tax the hell out of us.

Funny how I never hear liberals complain about the intrusive arm of the government with respect to the SS card. And liberals never complain about ID checks with respect to gun ownership. Why is that Tim?

by KenTX on 04/28/2008 09:49:29 PM EST

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Interesting fact (none / 0)
Notice how many "red states" require Voter ID, and how many "blue states" require no ID whatsoever.

What does that tell you about Democrat Party commitment to clamping down on voter fraud?

by KenTX on 04/28/2008 09:53:09 PM EST

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If you're so worried about fraud, (none / 0)
Please provide some concrete exaples of voter fraud. 

Keep in mind that your whole argument rests on the fact that a small proportion of the population will be disenfranchised by the ID requirement, therefore you must show a larger amount of fraud to make a logical argument. 

I'll give you a hint: you won't be able to because voter fraud is pretty much nonexistant.  Meanwhile tens of thousands of people will be disenfranchised. 

by jawill11 on 04/28/2008 10:15:53 PM EST

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Destroying Your Argument (none / 0)
Please provide some concrete exaples of voter disenfranchiseme nt.


Item 1:

"Plaintiffs failed to produce a single person actually prevented from voting by Indiana's law, and the court rightly demanded evidence of real disenfranchisement before limiting the states' ability to ask for what most Americans see as a common sense requirement – that voters present a photo ID at the polls."

Man, that was fun. Now beat it!

by KenTX on 04/28/2008 10:34:17 PM EST

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Liberal response to new Voter ID (none / 0)

by KenTX on 04/28/2008 10:42:01 PM EST

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Some destruction (none / 0)
A.  I asked you first.  As Justice Souter said in your linked article, the state failed to provide one single case to voter fraud to justify the law.

B.  You must not have made it to page two of your article.  Otherwise, you might have seen this: 

By one estimate 43,000 Indiana residents do not have the required identification.

Now they don't say where that estimate comes from, but you failed to mention that your quote came from the defending attorney.  I say the burder still falls on you and the proponants of the law.  I agree with Souter that it is unjust to consider restricting voting ability (even if only one handicapped person is affected) unless you can prove that there is a real need for it.  So far, I have seen nothing of the sort, and apparently the SCOTUS didn't either.

by jawill11 on 04/28/2008 10:49:06 PM EST

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Perhaps you missed the news. (none / 0)
"So far, I have seen nothing of the sort, and apparently the SCOTUS didn't either."
 
Today, the Supreme Court of the United States of America upheld Indiana's Voter ID law. SCOTUS musta seen something they liked. The Indiana model will be used as a precedent by all states to implement similar laws.

The effect is very easy to measure. When you go to the polls, put down that 40 of Schlitz Malt Liquor, and don’t forget to bring your drivers license.


by KenTX on 04/28/2008 10:56:49 PM EST

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Cenk asks Kent Conrad about Sam Alito (none / 0)
This was Priceless.

After the confirmation, Sam Alito wrote a song for Kent Conrad.

by KenTX on 04/28/2008 11:09:36 PM EST

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Great answer! (none / 0)
I'll take it from that ridiculous non-answer that you have no real answer. 

By the way, the SCOTUS saw something they liked in Bush v. Gore, too.  That ruling makes this one much less surprising, but just as depressing.

by jawill11 on 04/28/2008 11:12:19 PM EST

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Some more from the article you linked: (none / 0)
we conclude that it imposes only a limited burden on voters' rights."

So even the assenters admit that there is a burden.

But the best is last from Scalia:

In his concurrence, Scalia says he opposed Stevens's approach of focusing on the special burdens a law places on particular individuals. He says such an approach sets the stage for future litigation."This is an area where the dos and the don'ts need to be known in advance of the election, and voter-by-voter examination of the burdens of voting regulations would prove especially disruptive," Scalia says."A case-by-case approach naturally encourages constant litigation," the justice adds. "Very few new election regulations improve everyone's lot, so the potential allegations of severe burden are endless."

Now Scalia is even saying that the burden is potentially endless, but chooses to ignore it. 
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by jawill11 on 04/28/2008 11:20:37 PM EST

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Infinitesimal Burden (none / 0)
Allow me to remind you of the many activities that already require a government issued photo ID:

It takes ID to buy beer.

It takes ID to buy cigarettes.

It takes ID to get on a plane.

It takes ID to rent a movie.

It takes ID to drive a car.

It takes ID to buy a gun.

It takes ID to check into a hotel.

It takes ID to get a job.

It takes ID to draw unemployment.

It takes ID to obtain welfare.

How many people do you think are lacking a photo ID?

by KenTX on 04/29/2008 07:53:03 PM EST

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As I stated before... (none / 0)
the burden is on the proponants of the law to show some evidence of voter fraud to justify a restriction to voting, no matter how slight.  So far, you and all the other proponants are unable to produce such evidence because it doesn't exist. 

by jawill11 on 04/30/2008 08:00:01 AM EST

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You are absolutely wrong! (none / 0)
There is no burden on the proponents of Voter ID.

WE ALREADY WON!!

You lost. The burden of proof is now on your shoulders. You must prove that it's difficult for voters to acquire a photo ID. Since you can't prove it, you will be a loser for the rest of your life. I will be laughing at you for the rest of your life.

I am happy. You are sad.

See how that works?

by KenTX on 04/30/2008 01:06:09 PM EST

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Who drinks 40s? oh thats right (none / 0)
Black people.  Why do you try to prove you are a racist prick over and over BoboTx ?  You assume that everyone is as stupid as you  but we got it the first time.

by Chinese Democracy on 04/30/2008 07:36:28 PM EST

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Who drinks 40s? (none / 0)
Research indicates the answer is "Democrats".

While I recognize that most of  ;the street people you hook up with for ten minute interludes are probably drinking 40s at the moment, the consumption of malt liquor generally cuts across all ethnicities. Your answer reflects your "taste" in men rather than a racial bias for consuming 40s.

Thank you for your post.

Your Friend,
KenTX
likes 40s
mighty smooth
candy is dandy 

but malt liquor is quicker 

shotgun that bad boy

wheres the funnel? 

mighty tasty

when you gotta powerful thirst 

Tampa 40 Crew

by KenTX on 04/30/2008 09:26:44 PM EST

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But we know who you where refering to (none / 0)
dont we you racist prick

by Chinese Democracy on 04/30/2008 10:17:18 PM EST

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Actually, the "interesting fact" is... (none / 0)
...that there were NO cases of voter fraud to inspire this measure. There was no reason for it. Just a little more Republican control over your private life.

by MedfordTim on 04/29/2008 01:03:06 AM EST

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Sorry to disagree Tim (none / 0)

But Anne Coulter was arrested for voter fraud.  Maybe he is the reason for all this.  It doesn't surprise me that the Republican party would go to such lengths to stop dreanged, anorexic transexuals from illegaly voting.

What Ken jerks off to. Homo. 

by ProfRich on 04/29/2008 01:58:25 AM EST

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Yeah...funny thing, that... (none / 0)
"Funny how I never hear liberals complain about the intrusive arm of the government with respect to the SS card. And liberals never complain about ID checks with respect to gun ownership. Why is that Tim?"

Step with me into the time machine and we will visit the world of Liberals Past, in which a great effort was made to NOT require people to produce their Social Security card at the drop of a whim as had been the case. Finally the day was won with the implementation of The Privacy Act, which included the provision:

"It shall be unlawful for any Federal, State or local government agency to deny to any individual any right, benefit, or privilege provided by law because of such individual's refusal to disclose his social security account number."

It was, as I'm sure you remember, a response to the illegal intrusions and wiretappings by the government in the 60's & 70's.


Then Reagan hit and we soon found it impossible to get anything done if we refused to divulge our info. Then in '86, Reagan made the "must have the number" required down to age 5. By the time he left, it was by age One. Now, they are handed out at birth.

As usual, you have liberal intentions being fucked up by conservative misuse of power and refusal to abide by the law.

I don't really give a damn about gun registration until they get into the "automatic" and heavy weaponry categories. Waste of time. All it does is keep honest people a little more honest.

by MedfordTim on 04/29/2008 12:57:17 AM EST

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ID is free in IN too. (none / 0)
Just for the record.

As long as the ID is free, I don't have a problem with this law at all.

by jarett on 04/29/2008 06:13:18 PM EST

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What worries me (none / 0)

Is that it will either be used to run people for warrants or people will be led to believe it will.

Either way people will be scared to get it or show it.

Kind of like when the deportation crackdown came all the illegal kids stopped coming even though they were promised they would not be deported from school. 

by ProfRich on 04/29/2008 07:15:44 PM EST

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The only chips in my body are barbecue (none / 0)

1)  Is the voter ID going to have an RF chip in it?

2)  Will it be flammable? 

by OneHitKill on 04/29/2008 09:11:17 PM EST

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