Discussions about racism

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A lot has been said about racism and its possible effects on this election, should Obama become the nominee.  This discussion has been centered around white racists, but what about non-white racists?

There is a lot of concern about the older white voters in the Democratic party causing a "Daley effect" when they go to the voting booths.  I'm sure there will be a lot more discussion on this, and there should be.  I guess we are lucky that most of the people who make their racism the salient factor in their voting abdicated the Democratic party in the 1960s.

But what about non-white racists?  There hasn't been a lot of discussion about that.  Can we count on the Jewish, Hispanic, and Asian vote for Obama?  Or will racism cause a Daley effect there too?


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A great question (none / 0)
Everytime someone votes because of strictly skin color, and not for what's best for the country, you are being not only racist, but unpatriotic. To think that otherwise rational Democratic party people would vote for McCain over Obama because of race is absurd. What of the Supreme Court? What of the Iraq War? What of the absurd tax breaks for rich people? If there is someone who would do this, please post your thoughts.


One of the other things that worries me is the rift that is being created between black and Hispanic, especially on the West Coast. The right wing loves this as it is the perfect divide and conquer strategy.

by mijoh on 04/28/2008 10:09:25 AM EST

and people like Michael Hirsch perpetuate it (none / 0)
I just heard him say Reverend Wright is an angry black man associated with 60's radicals.  Have any of the MSM listened to Reverend Wright's sermons, speeches, etc?  He preaches about how wrong it is to take innocent life.  He gets angry about people who want revenge, who want to take the lives of others.  This is a PEACEFUL, NON VIOLENT message.  It may be delivered with passion, but it is not angry.  How can anyone say we no longer have a race problem?

by lynn on 04/28/2008 08:32:13 PM EST

White Racism (none / 1)

is unique, and quite different from descrimination by, or even hatred of white people by people of color.  Racism is institutional, and white people largely control the institutions today.  They certainly have in America for 400 years.

White racism is working hard, by making Obama identify himself as "the other."  He can either bow his head for white votes, or get "angry," which will scare the shit out of white Americans everywhere, just like Nat Turner's rebellion - even in 2008.

Even the "elitist" framing by the Hillary campaign takes a strong racist flavor.  It is not the same as Kerry being elitist.  It is more like an African American who has risen from average America to the pinnacle of political power, so it must only be because of some kind of Affirmative Action.  Worse, he knows he's smarter than many white voters - and that makes him what is really meant by "elite" when applied to Obama: uppity ni**er. 

After all, as white Americans we have ALWAYS been the dominate culture.  "God damn America" means 'god damn white America,' and not without good reason - but don't anyone who is not white DARE say it.  

And that is the problem.  There is no "reverse racism" until the dominant culture is no longer dominant.  And that won't happen until the Chinese forclose on us and make us their bitches. 

by gdoud on 04/29/2008 01:58:48 AM EST

I agree (none / 0)

Except for one little thing. I a pretty sure if a white person said "God damn black America" there would be a pretty big shit storm.

Unless that person was John McCain or someone connected to him.  Then it would be the most awesome thing anyone ever said the goddamn AP would give him Dunkin Fuckin Donuts with sprinkles.

If you missed this, from the Washington Post:

John McCain and Barack Obama both appeared before the nation's newspaper editors yesterday. The putative Republican presidential nominee was given a box of doughnuts and a standing ovation. The likely Democratic nominee was likened to a terrorist.

At a luncheon for the editors hosted by the Associated Press, AP Chairman Dean Singleton quizzed Obama about whether he would send more troops to Afghanistan, where "Obama bin Laden is still at large?"

"I think that was Osama bin Laden," the candidate answered.

"If I did that, I'm so sorry!" Singleton said.

"This," Obama told the editors, is "part of the exercise that I've been going through over the last 15 months."

McCain's moderators, the AP's Ron Fournier and Liz Sidoti, greeted McCain with a box of Dunkin' Donuts. "We spend quite a bit of time with you on the back of the Straight Talk Express asking you questions, and what we've decided to do today was invite everyone else along on the ride," Sidoti explained. "We even brought you your favorite treat."

McCain opened the offering. "Oh, yes, with sprinkles!" he said.

Sidoti passed him a cup. "A little coffee with a little cream and a little sugar," she said.

by ProfRich on 04/29/2008 02:07:40 AM EST

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