John Edwards just endorsed Obama in Grand Rapids, MI

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John Edwards just endorsed Obama in Grand Rapids, MI

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John Edwards just endorsed Obama in Grand Rapids, MI | 22 comments (22 topical, 0 hidden)
good timing (none / 0)

I literally just pasted my Obama bumpersticker over my Edwards bumpersticker about an hour ago.

by desertpear on 05/14/2008 05:46:17 PM EST

The Edwards campaign must have heard (none / 0)
They got the desertpear nod.  ;)

by jarett on 05/14/2008 06:41:38 PM EST

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Bumper sticker (none / 0)
Good for you.  I've noticed some Ron Paul stickers under Obama '08 stickers in my neck of the woods.  Not sure what to make of it, but a vote is a vote... even from a Ron Paul supporter.

by detroiter on 05/14/2008 05:51:04 PM EST

Very Helpful (none / 0)
Takes the wind out of Billary's arguments, and boosts Obama with the non-racist, white working class vote.

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by Nick86 on 05/14/2008 06:39:16 PM EST

Exactly (none / 0)
Perfect timing to make sure this news wipes Hilary's (pointless but gratuitously large) WV win off the news tonight.

by ihavenobias on 05/14/2008 06:56:20 PM EST

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That Certainly Was Courageous of Him (none / 1)
Edwards steps up in the 9th inning. Thanks John.

by MRFred on 05/14/2008 07:45:31 PM EST

I really wish he hadn't dropped out (none / 0)
I had been swayed to support Edwards for most of the past year before he dropped out (other than a moment of support for Dodd, for being the only one to stand up and fight for us on FISA at the time). Once he came in a distant third in New Hampshire and SC, I was hoping he would stay in anyway and maybe be the balance of power in a brokered convention. At that time I would really have been happy with any of the candidates so a brokered convention seemed like a cool thing to have a chance to see. Plus, I was sure Edwards would swing his support to the "right" candidate based on my view that he was the only one really fighting against the corporate right-wing and using our views to do so, not fighting using wingnut talking points.

But that, unfortunately, didn't happen. So it is disappointing that he didn't step up for Barack earlier, when his support could've swung labor votes ("blue-collar whites"), maybe even enough to tip Ohio and/or Pennsylvania. Certainly enough for Indiana.

Gave a good speech today, though. And his smile didn't seem quite as creepy, lol. VP? (yah, this argument again)

by Weapon X on 05/14/2008 09:56:31 PM EST

I don't think he'll be VP (none / 0)
Yes, he's the white, southern populist, but he's been so heavily smeared as the pretty boy elitist that I'm not sure how much weight he carries in that area.

Note I wrote "smeared" because it's a bunch of bullshit.  Then again Fox News was pretty fair to the combo of Obama and Edwards, so maybe there's hope?

by ihavenobias on 05/14/2008 10:00:41 PM EST

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I agree. (none / 0)
Though one of the main reasons I was supporting him this election was that he was so much better at standing up and fighting back than he was in '04. So the argument that he didn't do well against Cheney in I don't think holds up as a reason against him this time. I feel like he would be great in the role of attack dog and message multiplier if he was VP again. His experience as VP-nominee seems to have helped him on the stump and really in debates. He was pretty good in the debates this year, imo.

Still, I would probably prefer Clark or someone else as veep. I think Obama's decision making thus far has earned him the benefit of the doubt on whomever he picks.

by Weapon X on 05/14/2008 10:27:32 PM EST

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I'm with you (none / 0)
I do wish Edwards had hung in there longer.  I hope he plays a role in this next administration.  I really like the combination of him and Obama.  How can anyone vote for nasty old white republican haters after seeing those handsome young fresh faces on the stage today?

by desertpear on 05/14/2008 11:13:31 PM EST

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Edwards and discrimination (none / 0)

We all know about gender and race and age discrimination but Edwards fell prey to an untalked about discrimination.

Southerner discrimination.  I am a southerner so it doesn't work with me but I heard 100s of bright well meaning pundits and reporters write off Edwards as a serious candidate because he was a southerner.  They didn't say that but it was clear to me.  His accent, his charm, his genteel nature.  They had an instinctive dislike for it.  I love the Turks but they have always been brutal to the South (especially Jill and Cenk).

It was fascinating to watch Cenk and others all the sudden realize how right Edwards was about so much right before he dropped out because pundits and media refused to take him seriously.  I believe this was because they wrote him off as some dumbass cracker hillbilly.  Then the more they followed things the more they realized they had screwed up.

I say all the time if Einstein had been form Mississippi you would never have heard of the Theory of Relativity.  He would have come up with it but no one would have taken him seriously.  Which is just ignorant.  William Faulkner was from Mississippi.  Tennessee Williams was a southerner. Harper Lee.  Eisenhower and Nimitz.  I could do this all day. 

by ProfRich on 05/14/2008 11:36:10 PM EST

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Whatever man (none / 0)
Go back to watching Nascar in your trailer and listening to country music. While you're at it, bash some gays and tell some racist jokes on the way to church.

;)

by ihavenobias on 05/15/2008 12:54:24 AM EST

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Oh wait (none / 0)

You totally get southerners.  I take it all back.

Unless you're gay, then get ready to feel the embossed cross on my Dale Sr. signed lug wrench upside your latte sipping ass while you bleed to death between the double wides to the tinny sound of Hank, Sr.

Educated piece of shit. 

by ProfRich on 05/15/2008 01:01:36 AM EST

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Southern Discrimination? Really?! (none / 0)
Any opinion about the South that people have is well-earned.

Even your so-called Southern Heroes know how dumb that region is and they make fun of it themselves.

Its a willing desire to not evolve and learn and become better people.

If the South is so smart why cant they get over the loss in the Civil War?

Blogger Please...

by calturner on 05/15/2008 08:51:34 AM EST

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I rest my case (none / 0)

by ProfRich on 05/15/2008 09:45:06 AM EST

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Re; Edwards and discrimination (none / 0)
For what it's worth, ProfRich, in my opinion is 100% right 0% wrong on this one.

by detroiter on 05/15/2008 05:25:11 PM EST

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Im afraid to respond... (none / 0)
If you are joking, then go ahead and throw away this response as you usually do...

If you're not joking, then this will be one of the few times I agree with you 100%...

There is definitely a "southern bias" that people from the south face in the national political scene...

Carry On!!!

:)

by bobo1 on 05/15/2008 06:40:21 PM EST

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thanks bobo (none / 0)
I am very serious about this.  Just because we see things differently on a lot of things doesn't me we don't see eye to eye on anything.  Hell, Ken and I agree on college football!!

by ProfRich on 05/15/2008 06:52:46 PM EST

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All joking aside (none / 0)
Do you think that this bias is entirely unfounded, or that there are kernels (small and or large depending on the specific claim) of truth there?


by ihavenobias on 05/15/2008 08:21:18 PM EST

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Excercise (none / 0)

Step 1) Take everything I said about Southerners and translate it into black people. 

Step 2) Now take all the stereotypes we have thrown around about southerners and translate them into thier black counterpart

Step 3) Ask your question about black people 

How many times have you heard some white guy say, "I know its a stereotype but its true about black people (being criminals/not having jobs/having babies out of wedlock/liking fried chicken/having various grotesque physical features)?  Did you feel those people were making a compelling argument?

Look, the point is are some Southerners idiots?  Do some love Nascar and drink too much beer and have a poor understanding of America, its governmental system and ideals?  Do some wear wifebeaters and have mullets and beat their wives?  Sure.  Does John Edwards? Does he deserve to be painted with that brush?  That is how bigotry works.   

by ProfRich on 05/15/2008 10:44:46 PM EST

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Yeah, I got your part (none / 0)
But pragmatically speaking, it's damn near impossible to treat each and every person on earth as an individual 100% of the time.  There are over 6 billion reasons why it's not practical.

Ideally though, yes, that's what we'd always do.

by ihavenobias on 05/16/2008 11:50:12 PM EST

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Sure (none / 0)

And I don't think you are a bigot at all.  Just making a point.

I think there are bigotries we shine a white hot spotlight on and they whither and weaken (black) and some we acknowledge and they slip in the shadows but remain fairly strong (women, Mexicans) and those we completely ignore and those remain the same or even grow in power (Southerners in this case) 

by ProfRich on 05/17/2008 12:00:37 AM EST

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