The Press Did Its Job In The Iraq War Lead-Up (According To DG)?

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One of the charges in former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan's new book is that the media failed to really ask the tough questions of this administration and they instead enabled Bush and the propaganda that led to the Iraq war.

Obviously we all know this is, and have known it for many years now.

But it's funny to watch some of those in the press, particularly David Gregory (formerly Chief White House correspondent from 2001 until fairly recently), flop around trying to awkwardly laugh off the idea that they may have failed in some way.

I only saw a couple of minutes of Gregory on MSNBC's Hardball earlier today, but it was all I needed to see of his pathetic attempt to deflect the possibility that he could have done a better job with his questioning and reporting. He said he and others pushed VERY hard and asked all the tough questions and that we need to ask where the Congress was, what public opinion of the war was, what Bill Clinton thought about it, etc.

He added that McClellan sounds like those on the far-left (dismissing them both), and that the charges are ridiculous.  Then some chump from Politico (Mike Allen) chimed in to defend Gregory and the rest of the media.

The bigger question for me is how the overall media will handle this story.  Will they give it the much needed honest reflection it deserves (particularly WRT the failure of the media and ideally lessons learned), or will they pretend it's overblown and irrelevant like David Gregory (and Mike Allen of Politico) is trying to do?

I think I know the answer but hopefully I'll be proven wrong.

PS---The only concession from Gregory was that the press was "manipulated" with regard to weapons of mass destruction.
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the media seems to be running with this story.  Even fox was covering it.  But the majority of what I've seen has been more "oh no he didn't" kind of coverage, and not the honest reflection on themselves that it should be.

Honestly, I don't really see the big deal.  Maybe I'm crazy, but Scott's saying things that the majority of America knows already.  We were lied into Iraq?  News flash!  The press is weak?  News flash!  The president did coke?  News flash! 

The thing about David Gregory saying they were "manipulated" makes me furious though.  Mother fucker, it's your job to not be manipulated.  You are supposed to investigate.  Big surprise that the government gave you info that was favorable to their position.  At least try to dig slightly below the surface.  Moron. 

by Spencer on 05/28/2008 07:44:50 PM EST


about how it's not big deal because most people already know this.

Except that you'd be shocked (and disgusted) by how many people DON'T know, or continue to deny these things. Granted, most of them will NEVER admit the truth, but there are a decent number of "moderates" who give this administration more credit than it deserves.

I'm referring to people (relatively uninformed/misinformed of course) who think that everyone (including the Bush Administration) was given bad intelligence, and that while the war was a mistake and not handled well, it's not really Bush Co's fault, etc.

And it seems like a good number of people believe or pretend that Libby and Cheney are innocent WRT the Valerie Plame incident.

And finally, maybe the best we can hope for is that while the mainstream media will (largely) publicly act as though they did nothing wrong, privately they'll be *slightly* smarter when it comes to serving up propaganda.

I guess the bottom line with this "old news" is that a Bush insider and Republican, right wing, ass-kissing loyalist is confirming what so many people on the left have said for years. It's basically the cherry on top of the truth sundae, and it makes it that much more difficult for the remaining Republicans to pretend that all of these allegations are just liberal wet dreams.

PS---Tucker Carlson was giving the "this administration was never conservative" talking point on Hardball today. God I fucking hate that. Where were all of these "conservatives" for the first 4-5 years of the Bush presidency during the push for imperialism, assault on civil liberties and bloating of the budget?

They need to accept that THIS is what their party has become, or in many ways, this is what their party always was if they'd bothered to look.

by ihavenobias on 05/28/2008 07:59:48 PM EST

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"Granted, most of them will NEVER admit the truth"

That's exactly it.  This is more of an "I told you so" for us libs.  Republicans will fall on that "he's just mad at his old boss" crap that they do (which I heard Glenn Beck saying this morning), and the less-informed moderate folks will probably never hear this story, because if they paid the amount of attention to the news that it takes to even know who McClellan was, then they would know all of the stuff that he's saying already.  All of which leads me to not care all that much.

Really, this story should be all about the media.  It won't be, because, just like the Pentagon "military analyst" story before it, it would require them to look at themselves and accept a tiny bit of accountability.  Go ask some dumb people on the street how they feel about the Pentagon "military analysts".  I imagine you'll hear a lot of "huh"s.

I love when Tucker pulls the "Bush is really a liberal" card.  Anything else would be admitting that all of the conservative bullshit issues are just that, bullshit.  Because when you actually put their talking points into practice...  Well, we've all seen how well that works. 

by Spencer on 05/28/2008 08:18:56 PM EST

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But remember, Tucker is a moderate*










* ;)

by ihavenobias on 05/28/2008 08:22:56 PM EST

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What would CJ do?

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by desertpear on 05/28/2008 08:09:32 PM EST


Must be a tv reference I don't get.

As for Dan Abrams, he just generically dismissed the idea that the press somehow enabled Bush & CO. He pretty much laughed it off as a ridiculous notion, at which point Pat Buchanan joined him with his own hearty laugh a sarcastic remark building on the same theme.

by ihavenobias on 05/28/2008 09:29:08 PM EST

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called "ihavenobias hates MSNBC".  I swear, 9 out of 10 things you say in the chat are about how much you hate MSNBC, and now you're spreading your hate to the forum.  What's next?  Podcasts?  Wax cylinders?  If you hate it so much, quit watching already.* 

 

* Note - Writer is a hypocrite who routinely listens to rightwing radio, watches Fox News, and reads bobo's comments. 

by Spencer on 05/28/2008 10:55:33 PM EST

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How many times have I mentioned that Norah O'Donnel is hot?

Exactly!

Case closed.

by ihavenobias on 05/29/2008 12:04:08 AM EST

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You guys don't remember or didn't watch it?  Nevermind ;)

by desertpear on 05/28/2008 10:17:48 PM EST

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I've seen her in other stuff and I like her though.

by bfaul on 05/29/2008 09:51:16 AM EST

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I rented it on netflix and had a great time watching the whole series.  Try it ;)

by desertpear on 05/29/2008 04:05:50 PM EST

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It is going to be hilarious to watch the White House Press corps go ape covering this story. They are totally complicit in the whole affair. They claim that Scottie was maddeningly evasive and dismissive. They ask, if he knew about the falsehoods, why didn't he do something at the time all this crap was flying? Like flies on a cow pie, they cannot wait to get covered in it. They need to ask themselves the same question...why didn't they do more when the crap was flying? The reason is clear - it is because they were intimidated and worried they would lose their precious front row seat in the briefing room, that's why. Now that the popular tide is turnng they feel emboldened. It's conceit, plain and simple, that started and perpetuated this war, and that kept the press from demanding the truth

by Verified1 on 05/29/2008 12:42:46 AM EST


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