Iraq could contain 350 billion barrels of oil!?!

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So it seems that Iraq could contain much more oil than conventionally assumed, surpassing Saudi Arabia as the world's largest source of the black gold. Of course, there are clear and present obstacles to bringing Iraq online to its full potential. Considering that the war in Iraq seems without end, regardless of the temporal reduction in violence, the underlying tensions could increase if more oil is found. Also, there is a great antipathy in Iraq against foreign oil companies from coming in and owning the oil fields. The Iraqi's in 1972 (I believe) nationalized their oil, like most other states did in the 70s, and that was a great nationalistic source of pride of breaking the most obvious tie of neo-imperialism in the country.

Since the country has been invaded by a neo-imperialist power, the country again is struggling with the realities of its oil resources being privatized and profits flowing to Houston and London instead of Baghdad. One of the the reasons that it is suspected that Al-Sistani may launch a fatwa against the US forces is due to the possible privatization of Iraq's oil:

http://www.theyoungturks.co m/story/2008/5/24/21107/968 3/Diary/Actual-news-from-Ir aq-Fatwa-against-the-US-occ upation-from-Al-Sistani-

The question that most people will be asking is, if we can get Iraqi oil online will it make a difference? That depends, as the article stated it could upwards of 20 years to get Iraq up to snuff, thats assuming that the country is somehow pacified. I do not believe that Iraq's oil, even if it produced at its maximum level would dramatically change the situation as oil production in other countries are already starting to decline, most importantly in Russia.

What may bring the price of oil down in relation to Iraq is if the oil fields are indeed privatized. The five sisters have been pushing up the price of oil because they are corporations, and corporations need to make profits, and if you are not producing more oil the only way to increase profit is through inflation. If these companies can get huge concessions in Iraq, we could see the price of oil decline in a serious way. If they are denied access to Iraq's oil, prices will remain high, tempered by new Iraqi production but nevertheless high.
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Re: Iraq could contain 350 Billion Barrels of Oil (none / 0)

Hi,

Thanks for the post. A few numbers to put things into perspective ("give me numbers Mrs Landingham" for you "West Wing" fans out there):

350 Billion Barrels of crude oil gives you about 700 Billion Gal of Gasoline (+some diesel, jet fuel and other stuff).

The annual US consumption of gasoline is about 150 Billion Gal per year. So if *all* the Iraqi oil went to the US, that's less than 5 years of US consumption, i.e. less time than the Iraq war so far.

 Greetings,

Matt

PS: Another number for the road, the oil in ANWR is estimated anywhere between 4 and 12 Billion barrels of crude oil. 

by posthoc on 05/28/2008 11:43:25 PM EST

Speaking of the West Wing (none / 0)
Martin Sheen came to ND to receive an honorary PhD and a medal.  I wrote him a letter thanking him for the really inspiring things he said while he was here and he personally wrote me back.  Pretty cool guy.

by jarett on 05/29/2008 10:58:41 AM EST

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aww (none / 0)

I have liked Martin Sheen for a long time.  Anyone else remember when he was the honorary mayor of Malibu (1989 for you youngsters)?

"He promptly marked his appointment with a decree proclaiming the area "a nuclear-free zone, a sanctuary for aliens and the homeless, and a protected environment for all life, wild and tame"."  (wiki entry)

by desertpear on 05/30/2008 01:57:16 AM EST

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Malibu!!! (none / 0)
My wife and I drove though Malibu last weekend on the way home from Santa Barbara. Freaking beautiful!!!Those rich basturds!! I'm gonna start selling cocaine so I can be rich and buy a house on the beach in Malibu!! So, anyway, .......there are 750 billion barrels of oil in Iraq? Wow. Is that 5 years of U.S. consumption? I ride my bike to the bar.

by satanisreal on 05/31/2008 03:01:43 PM EST

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Cheney World Reality Check (none / 0)
Congratulations! You’re finally catching up with neocon logic. The world economy runs on oil. There will be no alternative replacement in our lifetime. Until we can develop micro nuclear power plants for automobiles, we are stuck with oil. Countries with access to the most oil at the cheapest prices will prevail in the coming century.

Here is a list of the world's top oil producing countries. Note that we've achieved improved relations with nearly every country on the list, with the exception of Iran and Venezuela.
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America currently has military bases in Kuwait, Oman, UAE, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, Qatar, Uzbekistan, and throughout the Middle East. If you haven’t figured it out yet, our military footprint is inexorably growing in the region, and we are never leaving. Why the hell would we have installations in every country except Iraq?
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The kings and potentates of these oil states need protection. America needs oil. It’s a marriage made in heaven.
Bush in Kuwait
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Bush in UAE
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Bush in Saudi Arabia
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Bush in Bahrain
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Bush in Iraq
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Bush in Russia
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by KenTX on 05/29/2008 12:55:06 AM EST

Deja Ken (none / 0)

You already posted all of this, wtf?

Oh, and that is not a chart of largest oil producers.  It is celarly a chart showing reserves to production ratio, whatever the hell that means.

Seriously, Ken.  Read. 

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 01:06:41 AM EST

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reserves to production ratio (none / 0)
Means how many years a country can produce from proven reserves at the current rate of production. It is a very significant number when Cheney is trying to figure out who to buddy up with.

Iraq is at the top of countries that Cheney loves, followed by Kuwait and UAE. Had Saddam rolled over these countries, he would be sitting atop a mountain of oil. He would have used trillions of petrodollars to purchase nuclear technology to keep up with the Joneses next door in Iran.

Rich, don't worry your pretty little head about issues like this. Leave it to the real men.

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 01:21:49 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Wait a sec (none / 0)

This does not account for level of production.  Theoretically I could have 10 gallons of oil and produce a thimble full each year and my production/reserve ratio would be huge.

This chart is meaningless without further context.

You may think you know a lot about oil but you don't know shit about logical analysis.

Leave that to us girls, Ken. 

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 09:22:41 AM EST

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Rich's "logical analysis" (none / 0)
In Rich's world, the countries that control the future of the petroleum energy market are the U.S., Russia, Mexico, Canada, and Norway.
rich
The problem with Rich's "logic" is that reserves and sustainability are more important than current production levels.

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 03:52:22 PM EST

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He yhere, liar (none / 0)

I never claimed to know anything about this.  I offered no analysis of where the oil is.  I just said your chart doesn't say what you think it does. Maybe those are the top oil producers, maybe they aren't.  We don't know.

Quit lying about what I said, Ken.  It belittles even further, if that is possible.

Have you found where I said Bush planned 9/11 yet?

Liar. 

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 04:54:12 PM EST

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It's never stopped you before. (none / 0)
"I never claimed to know anything about this." 

You don't know much about anything, and yet you continue to run your mouth about every subject under the sun.

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 04:59:58 PM EST

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Good one, Ken (none / 0)

You are the coolest kid in the 3rd grade.

Found those links backing up your lies yet?

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 05:19:14 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Rich (none / 0)
Its ok, he assumes that the US is able to control Iraq's oil. If the US attempts to seize Iraqi oil through privatization, chances are a fatwa will be announced and American ambitions in the region will be over. 

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 05/29/2008 02:02:29 AM EST

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No (none / 0)
I assume Iraq, Kuwait, UAE will use billions of petrodollars to kill al Qaeda. We are turning the Middle East into an al Qaeda killing machine.

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 02:05:37 AM EST

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Of Course (none / 0)
I guess you can use Saudi Arabia as an example.  How many al-Qaeda members have they killed with all of their petrodollars, again?

by jawill11 on 05/29/2008 08:16:19 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Shhhh (none / 0)
Saudi Arabia is a "kill switch". It either causes Ken to fall into an endless loop of identical off-topic posts or shuts him down altogether.

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 09:27:45 AM EST

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Rich is Pro Al Qaeda (none / 0)
Rich, you’ve been very outspoken about wanting to abandon our Iraqi allies as they battle al Qaeda. Now you want to abandon our Saudi allies as they battle al Qaeda.

Rich, which side are you on in the War Against Al Qaeda? Are you a home-grown terrorist? Why do you hate America?

Do me a favor, and at least stop telling people you’re a Texan. I don’t want any association with you.

Congressional investigations revealed no connection between Al Qaeda and the government of Saudi Arabia.
There are large scale crackdowns on al Qaeda fighters in Saudi Arabia.
Saudis kill al Qaeda leadership as a matter of routine.
The Saudi government is doing a great job of destroying the al Qaeda organization.
The Saudi government rounds up al Qaeda from all over the Middle East, and executes them.
Polls show that on a percentage basis, approval of al Qaeda is much lower among Saudis than among Travis County, Texas Democrats.

Oh by the way, look for this information to be reposted again and again and again and again...

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 04:57:39 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Time poorly spent (none / 0)

You had time to find all those links but you can't take a few seconds to show us all you weren't lying when you said I claimed Bush planned 9/11?

C'mon, Ken.  Quit changing the subject and show us all you are not the liar I am calling you.  You made three outrageous and untrue claims about what I have posted.  Show us the links, Ken.

Don't run away.

Again. 

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 05:34:24 PM EST

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Proving Rich a liar. (none / 0)
Here is what you said: “Pakistan (the guys who are harboring Osama Bin Laden)”

Here is a news report on the possible whereabouts of OBL. The answer is that nobody knows where he is. Maybe Afghanistan. Maybe Pakistan. Maybe Iran. Nobody knows. You made a statement of certainty that you know is a lie. Therefore, you are a liar.

Here is what you said: “all you have to do is bring up Saudi Arabia (you know, the guys who funded 9-11)”

That’s a worn out claim that has been debunked, just like the Bush 9/11 claim. Here is what Congress said about the issue. You made a statement of certainty that you know is a lie. Therefore, you are a liar.

It's very easy to prove you a liar. All I need to do is start highlighting the lies in your posts.

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 06:04:01 PM EST

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Man, that was fun, and easy! (none / 0)
You are such a weakling.

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 06:05:37 PM EST

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You are an idiot (none / 0)

Just read the whole thread.  This is so childish.

Where did I say the Saudi ROYAL FAMILY funded 9/11?

Where did I say Bush panned and executed 9/11?

And you agree many believe Bin Laden is in Pakistan.  So the best you've got it I made "a statement of certainty" about something not everyone agrees with?  Do you understand how many lies you tell a minute by that preposterous standard, Ken?

You have failed completely to vindicate yourself and everyone knows it, Ken.

Too bad you are a conservative so your only reaction to being caught lying is more lies, attack!!! and childish games. 

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 09:08:01 PM EST

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Caught in another lie (none / 0)

Prof's challenge: 

You had time to find all those links but you can't take a few seconds to show us all you weren't lying when you said I claimed Bush planned 9/11?

Your answer: 

" Here is what you said: “Pakistan (the guys who are harboring Osama Bin Laden)”

This is practically common wisdom now.  I'm not even going to bother to link it.  As far as I know, you're the only person in Texas who doesn't think he's holed up in the mountainous areas of Pakistan.

Then you said: 

"Here is what you said: 'all you have to do is bring up Saudi Arabia (you know, the guys who funded 9-11)'"

Here is a link from the BBC, one of many.  This is another well known point.  Bin Laden's money came from interests all over the Middle East and Africa, definitely including Saudi Arabia.  That was a sore point for a long time when they were trying to close down his funding sources.
 

My guess is you know you're full of shit, you can't show an example where he said what you claim he said and you don't have the simple courage to admit it. 


by bfaul on 05/29/2008 09:44:39 PM EST

[ Parent ]
bfaul (none / 0)

You don't have to find new articles. All you have to do is read Ken's links.

In the new report, the presidential commission on Sept. 11 did acknowledge that Al Qaeda had ''found fertile fund-raising ground'' in Saudi Arabia, where ''extreme religious views are common, and charitable giving is essential to the culture and, until recently, subjected to very limited oversight.''

See how easy it is.

Ken's argument is that the Saudi Arabian government didn't fund bin Laden. Maybe so but according to his links they did turn a blind eye to it while it was going on.

Shall I find more from your links Ken or are you finally going to start reading them first. 

by z1p101 on 05/29/2008 10:17:06 PM EST

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What I learned from Ken's links (none / 0)

I read two paragraphs of one link and nothing else and I was honestly shocked to learn that our good friends the Saudi's who Ken is so hot to pimp for, 36% want to take up arms and kill Americans.

That is what I learned in the 30 seconds of my time with Ken's links.

Oh, he has so soundly beaten me! Woe is I!
 

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 10:46:05 PM EST

[ Parent ]
LOL (none / 0)

My favorite pastime here is reading Ken's claim and then reading the link he provides to back it up. 98% of the time It is either outdated, has nothing to do with his claim or or actually proves his point to be incorrect. Oh, and lets not forget the you tube propaganda videos.

I mean start here and start reading his links. He hasn't been that sloppy in a long time.

Then the way he claims victory at the end. It's a classic.

Rich, you are from Texas. Do parents there explain the difference between being laughed with and laughed at to their children or is it just him. 

by z1p101 on 05/30/2008 12:11:53 AM EST

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The kids in the main building get it (none / 0)

But out in the short bus portables I coudn't tell you what is going on.

Somebody who knows and cares more than I should do a field study on what motivates Ken.  It is endlessly fascinating.

And I think Ken is from the Canary Islands.  No clue what they tell the kids over there. 

by ProfRich on 05/30/2008 01:35:59 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Why (none / 0)
Does anyone take KenTX seriously enough to actually read his links? I just ignore the ADHD patient.

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 05/30/2008 01:39:20 AM EST

[ Parent ]
I used to ignore them (none / 0)

Then I realized how hilarious they are.  Now I read a few a week when I have time and need a laugh.

I am looking forward to the one where he shows I said all those idiotic things.  That should be interesting. 

by ProfRich on 05/30/2008 01:47:57 AM EST

[ Parent ]
I wouldn't hold my breath for that post. (none / 0)

I suspect Ken will be a ghost after the severe debunking you guys gave him.  Go team!

by Spencer on 05/30/2008 01:56:54 AM EST

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epiphany about liberals (none / 0)
Rich guaranteed that Osama Bin Laden is in Pakistan.

Rich guaranteed "Saudi Arabia" (the government?) (the Royal Family?) (who the hell?) funded 9/11.

I simply questioned his certainty in making such claims.

Then the peanut gallery vigorously jumped to his defense. Maybe they recognized the ass kicking he was taking, and it reminded them of high school days when one of their fellow band fairies was being bitch slapped by a star jock. Or maybe it reminded them of their hatred for authority figures who represent their father.

Either way, there seems to be a common thread with these guys. They hate their fathers, and they never played football. They watched the star athletes get the girls.

Maybe we've uncovered the fundamental difference between (male) liberals and (male) conservatives? This could make an interesting psychological/sociological study.

Were all of you guys father-hating band-fairies back in high school? Is this somehow related to the comic book thing?

Please don't be embarrassed. We're sharing. It's for science.


by KenTX on 05/30/2008 03:53:55 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Auhh (none / 0)

poor Ken. Are these beatings bringing back memories of your own locker room moments?

FYI I played football, my dad is an uber cool dude, tone deaf as hell so band was never an option and I learned to read with comic books. Maybe you should have done the same instead of running around oil fields. Then today you would not be constantly embarrassing your self with all these idiotic links.

Ken, from a friend I'm telling you that you are starting to crack up and it is time to seek professional help. 

by z1p101 on 05/30/2008 04:11:48 AM EST

[ Parent ]
naw man (none / 0)
I've seen this before. This room gets hot, angry, and intolerant prior to every election. Liberals want blood, and I'm the only available target.

The secret is that I enjoy the fight.


I'm not joking about my band fairy, father-hater theory. I would love to see some poll data on this.

by KenTX on 05/30/2008 04:18:34 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Interesting (none / 0)

"Either way, there seems to be a common thread with these guys. They hate their fathers, and they never played football. They watched the star athletes get the girls."

1) I love my father.  2) I played basketball.  Does that count?  3) Nobody puts out like geeky girls.  Plus, they don't have VD.

Interesting psychological/sociological study indeed.  You think "star jocks" should run the world.  I think smart geeks should.  Good luck with that. 

Roger Clemens 08!

by Spencer on 05/30/2008 04:18:03 AM EST

[ Parent ]
sorry spencer (none / 0)
Basketball doesn't count. Semi-gay.

There was a pecking order. Football was elite. Star football players were at the very top.

by KenTX on 05/30/2008 04:22:02 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Yeah (none / 0)

That's pretty much true (minus the semi-gay part).

But my point about geeky girls is still dead on.

by Spencer on 05/30/2008 04:36:42 AM EST

[ Parent ]
geeky girls (none / 0)
You're right about that. They were incredibly appreciative of attention. Had to keep it on the down low. I think Cenk called them "ginker girls" or something like that.

by KenTX on 05/30/2008 06:48:06 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Oh, Ken. You are ever so cool (none / 0)

I admit, my first reaction was to list my high school bona fides and attack Ken's point but then I realized there is no point except to deflect us from the beatdown he is getting in substance.

So, Ken, if I agree you are the coolest pipe-laying, closet geek-girl bagging, football playingest, baddest-ass Canary Islander I know will you concede you lied about me saying Bush planned 9/11?

Sorry to interrupt you high school revelrie with the matter at hand (you can almost hear Glory Days playing in his head can't you).

So, just to make sure we are clear, it went like this.

Ken- Outrageous stupid statement.

Rich- Debunks outrageous stupid statement.

Ken- Slanderous lie claiming Rich said shit he didn't

Rich- Prove it.

Ken- Lots of rehashed arguments and links that disprove Ken's point.

Chorus- Ken, you got your ass beat.

Ken- I was cooler than all of you in high school. 

Did I get the transcript right here, gang?

Ken, to quote that great philosopher Pigpen, "Of all the motherfuckers I know, you the motherfuckest." 

by ProfRich on 05/30/2008 10:28:31 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Oh no (none / 0)

It's an endless source of entertainment. Look at these claims and the links he provides. These are some of the juicer ones but.....

"The Saudi government is doing a great job of destroying the al Qaeda organization. "

What was the article about? US and Iraqi troops killed some guy with the last name Saudi in Mosul.

Then there is this little gem.

"The Saudi government rounds up al Qaeda from all over the Middle East, and executes them.

WTF?

Almost all of them say something different than what he claims they say.

I think he counts on you not reading them. 

by z1p101 on 05/30/2008 02:55:33 AM EST

[ Parent ]
yeah zippy, they use a big sword! (none / 0)
The Saudi government executes people for spitting on the sidewalk. You can bet they are executing al Qaeda terrorists extradited from Yemen.

On the other hand, they spare the lives of al Qaeda who surrender during periods of amnesty.

by KenTX on 05/30/2008 03:19:38 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Oh (none / 0)

you want to keep going? Lets look at this little gem.

"Saudis put 90 al Qaeda suspects on trial, then they kill them."

Now what is that article really about? If you read it you would know.

"But he gave no further details about the charges or the date of the trial.......

Prince Nayef's remarks are clearly an indication of the Saudi dilemma: the Saudi rulers are caught between the need to do something about the threat of militant Islam without openly acknowledging that it is a home-grown problem. "

by z1p101 on 05/30/2008 03:32:29 AM EST

[ Parent ]
So Ken has now proved (none / 0)

That militant Islam is a "home-grown problem" in Saudi Arabia?

Man, I used to research stuff to link when arguing with Ken until I realized he would just prove all my arguments for me.

Thanks, Ken!  You've freed me up to make cool Marvel references complete with pictures.  My fellow comic book geeks and I thank you.

by ProfRich on 05/30/2008 09:38:59 AM EST

[ Parent ]
hey zippy (none / 0)
Hey comic book boy. We understand each other now, don't we.

I was surprised at the over the top response to my simple exchange with Rich, and then it hit me. I used the word "weakling", and it caused you guys to flash back to your high school days.

You guys are a bunch of nerds, and I'm the big, tough, arrogant jock that you always hated.

It's got to be devastating to have a big tough jock use logic and reason to destroy your self esteem even further.

by KenTX on 05/30/2008 04:01:56 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Na (none / 0)

I was just bored tonight. So when I saw the class retard make another one of his long lists of claims with links that just didn't line up, I couldn't help myself.

Now quiet before I lock you in your locker. 

by z1p101 on 05/30/2008 04:21:46 AM EST

[ Parent ]
zippy (none / 0)
If you played ball, it was in NJ.

I'm from Texas.

Do you understand the difference?

by KenTX on 05/30/2008 04:25:23 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Yep (none / 0)

Texans rather play ball then read.

Explains a lot. 

by z1p101 on 05/30/2008 04:31:38 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Hey, I'm a Texan. (none / 0)

I read.

Lots.

And love sports. 

by ProfRich on 05/30/2008 10:29:55 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Why Ken loves the Saudis (none / 0)

Two words: Rape Rooms.

And we all know how much Ken loves rape. 

by ProfRich on 05/30/2008 09:34:39 AM EST

[ Parent ]
I wonder (none / 0)
I didn't play "ball" bc, we don't even have a high school football league here...thankfully, I wasn't in band, apart from music class that we all had to take...I went to a Catholic school, forced to go to mass...but I was easily the smartest kid in my grade, and I never got beat up nor did I hate authority figures...oh well I guess Canadians are different.

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 05/30/2008 10:55:52 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Dude! (none / 0)

Don't feed into this crap.

He is just using insult/claim victory/brag about self/change the subject to avoid accepting his ass-kicking.

Lets stay on point, people.

Have we learned nothing from Fox News?

Arguing his point a) distracts from the actual argument and b) legitamizes his nonsense point.

Dammit.  Now he is going to crow on and on about how he O'Reillied y'alls asses into following him away from the argument he was getting the shit kicked out of him in and into this nonsense psychobabble. 

by ProfRich on 05/30/2008 11:49:33 AM EST

[ Parent ]
@Prof (none / 0)
He has hi-jacked the thread, with your help! So I don't understand the fake outrage...let him roll, who cares?

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 05/30/2008 12:44:27 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Yeah (none / 0)
But we all saw what really happened, and he's going to claim victory regardless.

by Spencer on 05/30/2008 02:56:57 PM EST

[ Parent ]
"Lets stay on point, people." (none / 0)
That's it. You better appeal to the peanut gallery for help, because there is no place for you to run now, you father-hating, comic book reading, band-fairy.

Here is what you said: “Pakistan (the guys who are harboring Osama Bin Laden)”

Here is a news report on the possible whereabouts of OBL. The answer is that nobody knows where he is. Maybe Afghanistan. Maybe Pakistan. Maybe Iran. Nobody knows. You made a statement of certainty.
Here is what you said: “all you have to do is bring up Saudi Arabia (you know, the guys who funded 9-11)”

Saudi Arabia are “the guys who funded 9-11?” Who? The Government? The Royal Family? We've been hearing these kind of claims for years.  
I heard some idiot claim that part of the money that funded 9-11 might have been raised in Texas and Florida. Will you next be offering stupid statements like “all you have to do is bring up Texas (you know, the guys who funded 9-11)”

Rich, you’re the guy who kept bringing up Saudi Arabia in every thread, while I simply ignored the subject. Now it’s time for you to stand and deliver. Tell us what you know about the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden and the financial support from Saudi Arabia for the 9/11 attacks.

by KenTX on 05/31/2008 04:09:56 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Ken Troll is in need of some basic facts (none / 0)
ALQ is a world wide organization

Not one of the 9/11 attackers was from Iraq

Not one of the bus bombers in London was from Iraq

Not one death in Iraq has made us safer

You are down to ccping things you already posted over and over

You can leave now you have nothing new to say

by Chinese Democracy on 05/29/2008 11:32:25 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Oil and Al Q (none / 0)
Is like Cocaine and the FARC...if you think that oil is going to "destroy Al Q" one has to suspend belief (as Ken does) that Al Q main targets are  the regimes who squander the wealth of the nation on their own personal corruption, institutionalized as monarchies and puppets of Ameircan imperialism. Indeed, with pries so high now and if poverty and employment does not get better, more kids will probably end up joining Al Q. Ironically, it is usually unemployed or underemployed educated kids who join Al Q, not the poor uneducated types.

Blog: http://perspectivos.blogspo t.com/

by Nick86 on 05/29/2008 11:53:43 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Tiny could be a father someday. (none / 0)
If Clay Aiken can do it (artificially, of course), then there is hope for Tiny!

by KenTX on 05/29/2008 07:03:46 PM EST

[ Parent ]
Man, you have no idea what you're talking about (none / 0)
Micro-nuclear reactors for cars is the solution?  What planet are you living on?  The technology exists right now for cars that run on waste cooking oil, compressed air, and most significantly, electricity. 

There are electric cars out there now that can go well over 100 mph and can go hundreds of miles before recharging.  With electric cars, you can have cars running on all those proven alternatives to fossil fuels that are impractical for cars themselves (like your mini nuclear reactor).  Solar is a great option because they don't have to be located in one power station, they can be installed at the point of use.  There are houses out there that produce enough electricity to power their home and their electric car AND still have left over power to sell back to the grid.   

by jawill11 on 05/29/2008 08:07:08 AM EST

[ Parent ]
I think we pretty clearly established (none / 0)

Ken live on the "Blue Area" of the moon.

Or Houston.  Its one or the other. 

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 09:42:24 AM EST

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What a joke (none / 0)

Bush is their Bitch, and they know it.  His word carries no more weight, not with the Arabs, not with the Russians, not with anyone.  He went begging just a few days ago and the Saudis told him that they saw no need to increase production, that they had already increased production by 300K barrels a couple of weeks earlier.  They were careful to add that they did so to adjust for demand and NOT to accommodate the United States.  I don't need to speak Arabic to know that meant "Piss off".

The Saudis are done with Bush. 

by bfaul on 05/29/2008 09:47:28 AM EST

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Saudis aren't done with Bush (none / 0)
He will be doing their bidding on their payroll for the rest of his life.

by ProfRich on 05/29/2008 10:18:47 AM EST

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Nice..... (none / 0)
your rebuttal comes with pics. Actually, for me you kind of make sense. That is if we really have no fuel alternative. Which I'm not buying.  Life for the U.S. is much easier if we don't have to pry the oil from there cold, dead hands. We don't want to be hated by the entire world do we? He he. No seriously, that Industrial Military Complex mentality , in my opinion, is why our military is basically our only trump card we have left. What do we have to offer the rest of the world except protection?   

by satanisreal on 05/31/2008 03:16:29 PM EST

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my comment... (none / 0)
was supposed to be wayyyyy up there under Kentx's photo parade. 

by satanisreal on 05/31/2008 03:22:01 PM EST

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Iraq could contain 350 billion barrels of oil!?! | 61 comments (61 topical, 0 hidden)
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