Lay-off Reid & Pelosi

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Another lengthy post (1200 words) – my second this day and in fact ever.  (Just started my vacation, in case you are wondering how it is I have so much time).  I argue that the Dems have a great opportunity to exploit political cleavages in the Republican base.  But to do so, I believe we need to avoid playing into the image hardcore conservatives are trying to paint of us and to be careful in our criticisms of Reid and Pelosi (for the time being, any way).  

A couple of weeks ago Cenk talked about an op-ed (or blog) he read warning Obama supporters not to be “sore winners” over Clinton’s concession.  And that got me thinking about what kind of “winners” it looks like will be in our attempt to take the presidency and make further gains in congress.  I suppose many of us are still a little mad at being marginalized by characterizations of our positions as something less than patriotic or even moral.  (You remember that last one don’t you: “Can someone who calls himself a Christian be a Democrat”?  What that question is really saying is that the rightness and goodness some imbue Christianity with is confined to only the conservative way of thinking.)  And some of us are still perturbed at having our opinions during the roll-up to Iraq straw-manned as nothing more than liberal-touchy-feely-mushin ess.  And then there is the spending and spending and spending.  That was the one that personally got me the most upset – not because I think the deficit and debt are more important than the lives lost in our current foreign-policy misadventure but because being called a “tax-and-spend-libera l” by a “spend-and-spend-cons ervative” betrays just how divorced from reality many Republicans really are.  Then of course there are the Cleland/Hussein/bin Laden ads from the 2002 midterms.  And how about Orrin Hatch berating Clinton on national TV for not doing enough about al Qaeda after the 11 September attacks when he had complained barely a year earlier that the Clinton fixation on getting bin Laden was bordering on obsession!  Or how about the general observation that in spite of being touchy-feely libs we were right on practically all of the important issues.  I could go on and on but you probably get my point. 
 

Here is the thing: We’ve got a lot to be mad about, a lot of axes to grind, a lot of scores to settle, and quite possibly the votes of the independents to boot.  In fact, many people think we are going to murder the Republicans in the next election!  But I am not so sure we will murder them, I am not so sure we should even try, and I am not so sure exacting a pound of flesh won’t backfire on us in the long run.  This is because there are still plenty of districts out there that will always be red no matter how disappointed with Bush or leery of McCain segments of the Republican base may be.  But a red district isn’t necessarily the worst possible outcome – having a Republican party that embraces the radical agenda of the last 7 years is.  In other words, like it or not, there will be Republicans in the next congress.  The only real question is whether they will play nice in the first couple of years of Obama’s first term.  As Cenk often asserts, there are reasonable and smart Republicans and as CQ reports, it appears that they are trying to regain control of their party (Ota, Alan. “Moderate Republicans Express Concern Over Push for Conservative Agenda.” 16 Jun 2008.).  So given our options, I think it is in our interest to do everything we can to help Republicans embrace a moderate party platform and agenda. 
 

Some may disagree with this assessment but here is why I think that it would be a tactical blunder to start pushing our leaders to pay back the conservatives for the shabby way they’ve treated us for the last 10 to 20 years.  First, the landscape is changing.  Think about it: The stigma of “liberalism” is not scaring people like it used to – so much so that conservative radio has started replacing the word “liberal” with “socialist.”&nb sp; Also and more importantly, the Republicans’ “Democrats-are-soft-o n-defense libel” is no longer as effective with independent voters.  Second, the general voter has had to do a lot of growing up over the last several years.  It really does not seem like the childish tactics and name calling commonly used by the Republicans are going to them a lot of good so why should we adopt their plays?  Third and perhaps most interesting, the evangelicals, who prior to the conservative take-over of the SBC could be fairly liberal on some issues, are slowly beginning to talk about the social-gospel again (e.g., helping the poor) and worry about the environment (which we all know is a strong suit for the Dems).  Don’t get me wrong on this last point, I am not saying evangelicals are here yet but I really doubt that many with show up on Election Day and I further doubt the votes of those that do are going to break as strongly in favor of the Republicans as they have in the past. 
 

And so the hard-core conservative has only one possibility of remaining politically viable, which is to transform the liberal from an individual who always wears socks with his Birkenstocks into “angry-Marxist-revolu tionary-liberal” (or perhaps more accurately, “angry-Marxists-revol utionary-black-power-libera l”).  I know it sounds really goofy, but in the wacky world of Republican politics, we can be both at the same time and no one seems to worry about contradictions or intellectual incongruence.  And the one thing we can do to help the hard-core conservative is to take our eye of the ball and focus on revenge when we should be focusing on good policy and bringing the message home for the independent. 
 

Now, I am not saying we should take on a more conservative set of policy preferences – not at all.  What I am saying though is that we’ve got to let the people who have voted Republican in the past couple of elections save a little face.  Don’t make them feel like idiots for getting caught-up in the messianic cult of personality conservative radio created for Bush.  Don’t focus on avenging the Republicans’ sins – focus on fixing them.  And as much as it pains me to say, don’t even hint at congressional hearing that involve administration officials.  Not until after the general election, anyway.  I think if we do these things we will see three huge benefits.  First, we will be better able to target independents.  Second, our inroads with the independents will force the Republicans to adopt a moderate policy platform and agenda.  And finally, a moderate Republican platform will disincline the true-believer-hardcore-cons ervative from voting Republican because, ironically, he will feel betrayed. 
 

So here is my final point.  I think Obama knows what he is doing.  I also think Reid and Pelosi do too.  And I think it would be a huge mistake for us, because we are angry, to force their hand too early.  And so with all due respect to Cenk, his important work, and his wonderful show: I think he needs to lay-off Reid, Pelosi, and other Dems until after the election.  They all know what kind of support they can expect from their base if they don’t deliver on their end-game.        &nb sp;

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From the subject header to "I also think Reid and Pelosi do too.  And I think it would be a huge mistake for us, because we are angry, to force their hand too early" was a long journey.

I'm not sure you made the case for these specific two, though.

I understand the overall point, no worries. One thing to add into your mix of ideas which led to that conclusion is the frustration of those of us who expected Reid and Pelosi to actually do something over the last year and a half. How many times has Reid puffed out his chest at the introduction of a bill only to roll over when the votes are cast? Why was Pelosi's stand on impeachment being off the table one of her first pronouncements?

It's worth keeping in mind that those of us carping on their performances are not johnny-come-latelys. I can't speak for anyone else, but I would like to make it clear to the people waiting in line behind them that this sort of shit will no longer be tolerated. To ease up on them now would be doing exactly the same thing we are complaining about THEM doing: Not stirring the fire for pure political gain.

I'm not built like that.

If something is the right thing to do, delaying it is the wrong thing to do. Aren't you tired of candidates winning because of misguided perceptions about their further actions? We desperately need to get these people to start taking their oaths of office seriously.

Can't do that by keeping quiet.


Just my opinion; as always I could be very wrong.

by MedfordTim on 06/17/2008 01:16:02 PM EST


Thanks for the criticism – you are right, I didn’t really do a great job at developing my point with regard to Reid and Pelosi.  And I really hope that I didn’t sound as if I was trying to condescend to you all as “Johnny-come-latelies .”    

So let me try again with respect to Reid and Pelosi.  I think they are playing it down the middle until they get the critical mass of votes needed in their respective houses, which based on the way the numbers are looking this cycle, will likely be a working coalition between Dems and moderate Republicans (assuming they commit to a moderate agenda).  This is much more crucial for Reid than it is for Pelosi based on the differences between Senate rules and House rules – especially the unanimous consent requirements in the upper house.  In other words, the more radical the Republicans are, the bigger the compromises the Dem Leadership will have to make – especially in the Senate.  If we get Republicans with a radical agenda, we could very well do something about the environment but it will cost us somewhere else (e.g., maybe the distribution of the tax burden or some other blind spot).  A less radical Republican delegation on the other hand means that we pay less in terms of compromise because interests are more closely aligned. 

So why let up on the Dem leadership now?  Here is my answer: They are politicians whose primary objective is re-election.  And so they are compelled to act in the politically rational manner that makes that most likely.  If they perceive that they are going to get a lot of trouble from their base, they will make overt signals that they are moving towards the left, which as I argued will embolden the hard-core conservatives within the Republican Party and alienate the Independent voters.  (And bear in mind there is a huge difference between overt signals, which are usually just politicking, and an actual policy agenda.  You need only look at the difference between what the Republicans said they would do over the last 20 years and what they actually did to confirm that.)  If on the other hand, we – the Democratic base – take a wait and see policy, the Democratic leadership is less constrained in their attempt to make a political grand play for the Independent vote.  And I think from a policy perspective that is in our best interest.

Finally, I am not arguing that we withhold all criticisms the Democratic leadership indefinitely.  I think we just give them until the election is over – I really do believe that when they get the working coalition they need, they will be forced to the right thing because I think they get that they are on borrowed time.  

So with all that and like you said: This is just an opinion and I too could be wrong.  

by randall on 06/17/2008 03:20:00 PM EST

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When did Cenk ever say a single word that could be construed as anything other than positive with regard to Pelosi and Reid?!

You're making this up.

by ihavenobias on 06/17/2008 03:55:03 PM EST


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