Blast from the past - Sep 2002

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By now, few people remember that 25% of the population were firmly against an Iraq invasion in the months prior to the crime. To hear the MSM talk about it, we were a small sliver of the pie. The press' reaction to Scott McClellan's book made it clear that they had no idea that there was any questioning of the White House claims about the immediacy of any "threat" Iraq posed.

As Eric Boehlert at Media Matters points out, they were blind to alternative views, including Senator Ted Kennedy. I have provided a short excerpt of Ted's September 27, 2002 unheeded plea for due diligence. You can read the full speech here. 


"No one disputes that America has lasting and important interests in the Persian Gulf, or that Iraq poses a significant challenge to U.S. interests. There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed.
 
How can we best achieve this objective in a way that minimizes the risks to our country? How can we ignore the danger to our young men and women in uniform, to our ally Israel, to regional stability, the international community, and victory against terrorism?

There is clearly a threat from Iraq, and there is clearly a danger, but the Administration has not made a convincing case that we face such an imminent threat to our national security that a unilateral, pre-emptive American strike and an immediate war are necessary.

Nor has the Administration laid out the cost in blood and treasure of this operation.

With all the talk of war, the Administration has not explicitly acknowledged, let alone explained to the American people, the immense post-war commitment that will be required to create a stable Iraq."

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"We know all this – and we also know that it is an open secret in Washington that the nation's uniformed military leadership is skeptical about the wisdom of war with Iraq. They share the concern that it may adversely affect the ongoing war against Al Qaeda and the continuing effort in Afghanistan by draining resources and armed forces already stretched so thin that many Reservists have been called for a second year of duty, and record numbers of service members have been kept on active duty beyond their obligated service."

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"A largely unilateral American war that is widely perceived in the Muslim world as untimely or unjust could worsen not lessen the threat of terrorism. War with Iraq before a genuine attempt at inspection and disarmament, or without genuine international support -- could swell the ranks of Al Qaeda sympathizers and trigger an escalation in terrorist acts. As General Clark told the Senate Armed Services Committee, it would "super-charge recruiting for Al Qaeda."

General Hoar advised the Committee on September 23 that America's first and primary effort should be to defeat Al Qaeda. In a September 10th article, General Clark wrote: "Unilateral U.S. action today would disrupt the war against Al Qaeda." We ignore such wisdom and advice from many of the best of our military at our own peril.

We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction. Our intelligence community is also deeply concerned about the acquisition of such weapons by Iran, North Korea, Libya, Syria and other nations. But information from the intelligence community over the past six months does not point to Iraq as an imminent threat to the United States or a major proliferator of weapons of mass destruction.

In public hearings before the Senate Armed Services Committee in March, CIA Director George Tenet described Iraq as a threat but not as a proliferator, saying that Saddam Hussein — and I quote — "is determined to thwart U.N. sanctions, press ahead with weapons of mass destruction, and resurrect the military force he had before the Gulf War." That is unacceptable, but it is also possible that it could be stopped short of war.

In recent weeks, in briefings and in hearings in the Senate Armed Services Committee, I have seen no persuasive evidence that Saddam would not be deterred from attacking U.S. interests by America's overwhelming military superiority.

I have heard no persuasive evidence that Saddam is on the threshold of acquiring the nuclear weapons he has sought for more than 20 years.

And the Administration has offered no persuasive evidence that Saddam would transfer chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction to Al Qaeda or any other terrorist organization. As General Joseph Hoar, the former Commander of Central Command told the members of the Armed Services Committee, a case has not been made to connect Al Qaeda and Iraq.

To the contrary, there is no clear and convincing pattern of Iraqi relations with either Al Qaeda or the Taliban."

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>back to Tim< What else is there to say except, no one could have anticipated the events which have transpired since Bush invaded Iraq...
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Was there any question, even in 2002, of what they were doing?  Maybe it was because I was a TYT listener, but it was abundantly clear that their theory was exactly as they had outlined in in PNAC.  The neocon theory was to start toppling local regimes in an attempt to "westernize" the Middle East.  They had no idea that our military is completely incapable of such an operation.  I don't know how many people were buying this WMD nonsense, even back then.  That was just a public relations campaign to try to sway stupid people who weren't paying attention.  The Neocons operate on the same principles as a Magician--misdirection.&nbs p;

 

No the American people apparently agreed this was sensible foreign policy, to invade countries that we don't particularly like, all because we were victims of a terrorist attack.  Some people screamed that this is a stupid idea, like Cenk and Ben. 

I think over the past 5 years we have completely lost sight of what the real issue is.  We made a foriegn policy decision about how we are going to work as a country.  WMD had nothing to do with it.   All this gotcha stuff and talk about how they lied us into war is nonsense.  It was clear as day what they were doing from the get go.  I can't figure out why nobody, not even the turks (or Huffpo) talks about this.  All we seem to care about is he said she said nonsense. 

 

Thank God Obama won this primary.  We have a voice of reason and real change in foreign policy in the future.   

by schmoab on 06/19/2008 01:57:02 PM EST


I was picking on this stuff up when it was happening and I was still in HIGH SCHOOL!  I think many intelligent people knew what was going on, knew they were being deceived and went along with it anyway because everyone felt so vulnerable after 9-11.  I remember talking with friends and family, having so many people tell me things like "Hey, it might not be for the right reasons, but we need to show these guys that we are tough".  None of connections between the PNAC and present policy are hard to see.  I think many people don't want to believe it, because that would mean admitting that they were duped by fools.  Nobody wants to take that blow to the ego.  That's where you get smart people like Jim Webb buying into the theory that we could have won in Vietnam if we would have just tried harder.

by funkyspoon on 06/20/2008 01:23:29 AM EST

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Tim.

">back to Tim< What else is there to say except, no one could have anticipated the events which have transpired since Bush invaded Iraq..."

Somebody else anticipated what would happen

I call that the Nostradamus interview. They knew what would happen but they didn't care. They made themselves and their family's a lot of money and they are about to bail leaving their own party in shambles and us to pick up the pieces.

by z1p101 on 06/20/2008 12:48:34 AM EST


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